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I want it to be good but I'm also pretty skeptical it will be, as a result I'm taking a careful wait and see approach.

Also the trailers have been enraging the lore-nerd in me. Why is Ironforge involved? Their involvement in the fight against the Orcs only really began at the advent of the second war after King Llane was killed and Stormwind destroyed. There also shouldn't be any gryphon as those didn't really become an element of the Alliance till, again, the second war after the Wildhammer clans joined the fight and lent their gryphon expertise and training. Lothar also never fought in any Orc arena thingy, it was by a band of mixed Ogres and bandits he was briefly held captive during the first war. He certainly never fought by Durotans side.

If this movie takes place during the course of the first war there also wouldn't be any real fighting in a desert environment as most of the fighting then took place in the southern half of the Eastern Kingdoms. Maybe that's meant to be Westfall or the Blasted Lands?

Grumble grumble grumble.
I really don't mind because they are essentially rebooting the lore.

Now I am a die-hard Warcraft fan; propbably one of the few in this website, but even I admit the mainstream lore in WOW can be a bit too inconsistant, and flat out ridiculous at times.

This movie and its potential sequals has to opportunity to reboot the lore into at least something more consistant and with less plot holes.
Eh, "reboot" isn't really the word. Honestly, I think people are getting far too fussed about this. Usually when stories are adapted to film, the film isn't meant to be a definitive version or update of the original, it just does its own thing. To mention another fantasy film series, take Lord of the Rings. Follows the plot of the books more or less, but it leaves out stuff (e.g. Tom Bombadil), adds stuff (e.g. the warg attack), and alters stuff (e.g. the Army of the Dead on the Pelanor Fields). Stating that the movie is an alternate timeline is more a way of establishing the film's own continuity (already has EU material in its own timeline), but that aside, it's an adaptation like any other. Same story, but with the changes you'd expect from any kind of film adaptation.

And credit where credit is due, it's actually adapting a Warcraft installment rather than doing a "in name only" film. How many VG-based movies have we seen where that's the case?
 

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Hawki said:
Samtemdo8 said:
The Madman said:
I want it to be good but I'm also pretty skeptical it will be, as a result I'm taking a careful wait and see approach.

Also the trailers have been enraging the lore-nerd in me. Why is Ironforge involved? Their involvement in the fight against the Orcs only really began at the advent of the second war after King Llane was killed and Stormwind destroyed. There also shouldn't be any gryphon as those didn't really become an element of the Alliance till, again, the second war after the Wildhammer clans joined the fight and lent their gryphon expertise and training. Lothar also never fought in any Orc arena thingy, it was by a band of mixed Ogres and bandits he was briefly held captive during the first war. He certainly never fought by Durotans side.

If this movie takes place during the course of the first war there also wouldn't be any real fighting in a desert environment as most of the fighting then took place in the southern half of the Eastern Kingdoms. Maybe that's meant to be Westfall or the Blasted Lands?

Grumble grumble grumble.
I really don't mind because they are essentially rebooting the lore.

Now I am a die-hard Warcraft fan; propbably one of the few in this website, but even I admit the mainstream lore in WOW can be a bit too inconsistant, and flat out ridiculous at times.

This movie and its potential sequals has to opportunity to reboot the lore into at least something more consistant and with less plot holes.
Eh, "reboot" isn't really the word. Honestly, I think people are getting far too fussed about this. Usually when stories are adapted to film, the film isn't meant to be a definitive version or update of the original, it just does its own thing. To mention another fantasy film series, take Lord of the Rings. Follows the plot of the books more or less, but it leaves out stuff (e.g. Tom Bombadil), adds stuff (e.g. the warg attack), and alters stuff (e.g. the Army of the Dead on the Pelanor Fields). Stating that the movie is an alternate timeline is more a way of establishing the film's own continuity (already has EU material in its own timeline), but that aside, it's an adaptation like any other. Same story, but with the changes you'd expect from any kind of film adaptation.

And credit where credit is due, it's actually adapting a Warcraft installment rather than doing a "in name only" film. How many VG-based movies have we seen where that's the case?
Depends because a lot of video game based movies are varied in terms of faithfulness.

Mortal Kombat the first movie is perhaps the most faithful and good a video game movie can get.

Prince of Persia Sands of Time was also ok.

IMO at least the first 2 live action Resident Evil movies at least tried to emulate the games, like the Lickers of RE2 being in them and Nemesis.

But than you get bad ones:

Wing Commander
Most Uwe Boll movies, (Bloodrayne is probably the only one that tries to look faithful to the games)
And the most egregious being Super Mario Bros.
 

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The original Warcraft was simple. Now add two sequels, however many expansions, an MMO with six(?) expansions, however much expanded universe garbage and now a movie adaption. No way that's staying simple, if only because they need a new undead horde or pissed off orc or demonic incursion to drive each new chapter.
I was sure this said undead horse, and it struck me as surpassing clever.

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AGAIN?!? This is getting silly.
If it makes you feel better, I didn't realize it was officially another timeline either. I was joking!
 

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I'm not sure why exactly, but this movie looks godawful from the footage they've shown so far. I think it looks too clean and polished. It's too colorful which defeats the purpose of their advanced CGI since it looks completely artificial like it was all shot in a small green screen studio, which it probably was. Yes, I think that's it. That's why I hate it. It brings back memories of Star Wars prequels. They had the same problem. Too clean and colorful and too reliant on CGI instead of real locations.

And the trailers are all following that same corny dramatic trailer formula that's been popular for the past 10 years or so to the fuckin' letter, which only makes me hate it even more.
Your complaining about its CGI being colorful?! I thought one of the complaints of modern movies is not being colorful enough.

I am sorry but I just find criticisms against CGI just plain snobbery against it. Rarely even acknowledge the context CGI is used for.

This movie needs its CGI to create its world it needs it to make Gryphons, it needs it to make Floating Cities in the Sky, it needs it to make the Orcs the way they want them to look like. I don't want Warcraft Orcs to look like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSKtx2A1X80

This is what they are suppsosed to look like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLzhlsEFcVQ

And I don't care if they are "there" or not.

And the Star Wars prequas was 10 plus years ago CGI effects has advanced since then.
I don't mind CGI, I just don't like the way it looks in these trailers. It reminds me of Star Wars prequels. Like the entire movie was shot in a small studio. It doesn't feel immersive at all.
 

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Adam Jensen said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Adam Jensen said:
I'm not sure why exactly, but this movie looks godawful from the footage they've shown so far. I think it looks too clean and polished. It's too colorful which defeats the purpose of their advanced CGI since it looks completely artificial like it was all shot in a small green screen studio, which it probably was. Yes, I think that's it. That's why I hate it. It brings back memories of Star Wars prequels. They had the same problem. Too clean and colorful and too reliant on CGI instead of real locations.

And the trailers are all following that same corny dramatic trailer formula that's been popular for the past 10 years or so to the fuckin' letter, which only makes me hate it even more.
Your complaining about its CGI being colorful?! I thought one of the complaints of modern movies is not being colorful enough.

I am sorry but I just find criticisms against CGI just plain snobbery against it. Rarely even acknowledge the context CGI is used for.

This movie needs its CGI to create its world it needs it to make Gryphons, it needs it to make Floating Cities in the Sky, it needs it to make the Orcs the way they want them to look like. I don't want Warcraft Orcs to look like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSKtx2A1X80

This is what they are suppsosed to look like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLzhlsEFcVQ

And I don't care if they are "there" or not.

And the Star Wars prequas was 10 plus years ago CGI effects has advanced since then.
I don't mind CGI, I just don't like the way it looks in these trailers. It reminds me of Star Wars prequels. Like the entire movie was shot in a small studio. It doesn't feel immersive at all.
As a Warcraft fan I have seen enough to be immersed the faithfulness I have seen is outstanding.

They included Lakeshire, Westfall, Stormwind, Ironforge, Dalaran, Karazhan, Burning Steppes and Hellfire Penninsula (Outland) with its Dark Portal.

I have seen worst CGI effects then this, perticularly The Phantom Menace because of how cartoonish it looks, the later 2 prequals improved its CG effects perticularly CGI Yoda.

But again its probably just these Trailers. The movie will probably feel different when we see it. Even the director is a bit weirded out with the movie's marketing, especially the recent ones choice of music:

https://twitter.com/ManMadeMoon/status/711276106117087232
 

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BloatedGuppy said:
Zhukov said:
The original Warcraft was simple. Now add two sequels, however many expansions, an MMO with six(?) expansions, however much expanded universe garbage and now a movie adaption. No way that's staying simple, if only because they need a new undead horde or pissed off orc or demonic incursion to drive each new chapter.
I was sure this said undead horse, and it struck me as surpassing clever.
Sadly not, for I have no idea why that would be clever.

Unless we're talking potential dead horse jokes.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
They included Lakeshire, Westfall, Stormwind, Ironforge, Dalaran, Karazhan, Burning Steppes and Hellfire Penninsula (Outland) with its Dark Portal.
Peh, some Warcraft fan you are :p

(It's Draenor, not Outland yet.)
 

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Hawki said:
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They included Lakeshire, Westfall, Stormwind, Ironforge, Dalaran, Karazhan, Burning Steppes and Hellfire Penninsula (Outland) with its Dark Portal.
Peh, some Warcraft fan you are :p

(It's Draenor, not Outland yet.)
It already looked like Outland even before the planet exploded.
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-Ss3r-F_O0

Bit of a thread necro, but a new trailer's popped up. Didn't seem worth creating a new thread.

At the least, the music's far better this time around. And it turns out Khadgar can be a badass. Who knew?
 

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Hawki said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-Ss3r-F_O0

Bit of a thread necro, but a new trailer's popped up. Didn't seem worth creating a new thread.

At the least, the music's far better this time around. And it turns out Khadgar can be a badass. Who knew?
I just hope the real music in the movie will have that Warcraft orchestral sound like these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUA1B3A1ZnY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n2NMzFAJ4o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1eU2usWg3M

Any this movie I am excited for more so then I was for Batman v Superman and Civil War Combined.
 

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Know nothing about WoW, so if the movie has good enough action and non-shitty acting, sure I'll watch it. It's summer, I have nothing else to do.
 

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Know nothing about WoW, so if the movie has good enough action and non-shitty acting, sure I'll watch it. It's summer, I have nothing else to do.
Since you know nothing of Warcraft then this movie is made for you since its obvious this film is attempting to introduce a new audiance to the Warcraft universe.

(Sort of the same as how Warhammer Total War is introducing a new audiance to Warhammer Fantasy)

But I suggest you read this:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/the-story-of-warcraft/chapter1
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
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Know nothing about WoW, so if the movie has good enough action and non-shitty acting, sure I'll watch it. It's summer, I have nothing else to do.
Since you know nothing of Warcraft then this movie is made for you since its obvious this film is attempting to introduce a new audiance to the Warcraft universe.

(Sort of the same as how Warhammer Total War is introducing a new audiance to Warhammer Fantasy)

But I suggest you read this:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/the-story-of-warcraft/chapter1
I read all the chapters, and while I am intrigued, I am hopelessly lost in the expansions :(
 

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Bob_McMillan said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Bob_McMillan said:
Know nothing about WoW, so if the movie has good enough action and non-shitty acting, sure I'll watch it. It's summer, I have nothing else to do.
Since you know nothing of Warcraft then this movie is made for you since its obvious this film is attempting to introduce a new audiance to the Warcraft universe.

(Sort of the same as how Warhammer Total War is introducing a new audiance to Warhammer Fantasy)

But I suggest you read this:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/the-story-of-warcraft/chapter1
I read all the chapters, and while I am intrigued, I am hopelessly lost in the expansions :(
Which expansion did you got lost in?
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Bob_McMillan said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Bob_McMillan said:
Know nothing about WoW, so if the movie has good enough action and non-shitty acting, sure I'll watch it. It's summer, I have nothing else to do.
Since you know nothing of Warcraft then this movie is made for you since its obvious this film is attempting to introduce a new audiance to the Warcraft universe.

(Sort of the same as how Warhammer Total War is introducing a new audiance to Warhammer Fantasy)

But I suggest you read this:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/the-story-of-warcraft/chapter1
I read all the chapters, and while I am intrigued, I am hopelessly lost in the expansions :(
Which expansion did you got lost in?
Most of them really, they always say the Horde and the Alliance get together yet every other expansion has them fighting again. Then a character or threat that was introduced in one expansion disappears in the next then is defeated in the next-next expansion.

And then the one with time travel (was it time travel? I think it was time travel), that one really fucked me up.
 

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Bob_McMillan said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Bob_McMillan said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Bob_McMillan said:
Know nothing about WoW, so if the movie has good enough action and non-shitty acting, sure I'll watch it. It's summer, I have nothing else to do.
Since you know nothing of Warcraft then this movie is made for you since its obvious this film is attempting to introduce a new audiance to the Warcraft universe.

(Sort of the same as how Warhammer Total War is introducing a new audiance to Warhammer Fantasy)

But I suggest you read this:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/game/the-story-of-warcraft/chapter1
I read all the chapters, and while I am intrigued, I am hopelessly lost in the expansions :(
Which expansion did you got lost in?
Most of them really, they always say the Horde and the Alliance get together yet every other expansion has them fighting again. Then a character or threat that was introduced in one expansion disappears in the next then is defeated in the next-next expansion.

And then the one with time travel (was it time travel? I think it was time travel), that one really fucked me up.
Well thats the problem with Warcraft.

I maybe a HUGE Warcraft fan and It has great story moments, but the lore has been ALL OVER THE PLACE. There are contridictions, there are plot holes, but that is expected in such a huge universe and a franchise that has been here since 1994.

Even the DC and Marvel universe is not all that consistant.

I can try to make how the lore progressed but lets just say it will take awhile.

Also regarding the Time Travel thing, that's mostly Warlords of Draenor, which is regarded as the WORST expansion in the history of WOW and I agree. And people thought the Panda expansion was bad.

This is the reason as to me thinking that the movie (and its potential sequals) has the opportunity to reboot the lore into something more coherent and consistant. They already made up these charcaters, places, and events.

Now they have the chance to reboot them to make more sense out of them.
 

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The movie still looks like it'll be a hilarious train wreck for my perspective. I'll still see it though. Looks like it'll at least be a fun train wreck.
 

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The movie still looks like it'll be a hilarious train wreck for my perspective. I'll still see it though. Looks like it'll at least be a fun train wreck.
If you think the movie's story so far looks like a Train Wreck. You should see the lore of the Burning Crusade.

Especially after playing Warcraft 3 Frozen Thonre.