News Junkie: Elderly woman shoots bully, no charges!

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Dogstile

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Douk said:
Lets play the "If it was..." game!

If it was another kid who shot the bully, the kid would already have charges pressed on him!

If it was an old man who shot the bully, he'd be in big trouble as well!
No he wouldn't. That was an american granny. The kid was on her property throwing bricks. She's perfectly in her rights to shoot the little bastard.

Harsh? Maybe, but its legal.
 

Arachon

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Jesus Christ... I can't believe you people, She fucking shot him, that's not OK, she should be put in jail, no question about it.
 

Flamezdudes

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At that age, you should really blame the parents for not teaching the kid some fucking manners.

You. Don't. Fuck. With. Old People. I'm not entirely sure whether the old lady should be charged or not though...
 

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The boy was in hospital and has come out to charges of misdemeanor of aggravated assault on a senior, the woman has had no charges filed against her (at least thus far)
I think that the best thing about this is the fact that the biy got a painful lesson he won't soon forget. If he does forget, he'll probably end up being a victim of "suicide by cop", as "suicide by Old Lady" doesn't seem to have the same ring to it.

In this type of case, where the felon didn't pose a threat to life, he didn't deserve to be killed, so everyone is happy - the old woman reclaimed her property and used the second amendment to the purpose for which is was written - defence of one's own property. I'm not suggesting that all elderly people should go and tool themselves up, but a farmer in the UK served 3 years for manslaughter of a burglar and the wounding of another. The fact that he shot the 16 year old in the back, killing him was a problem for his case, whereas this woman shot the kid in the shoulder as he tried to heft another brick at her property.

I hope that no-one charges her.
 

BiscuitTrouser

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Why am I not surprised that on an internet forum most of you cant read the article and do a little research before forming a complete opinion?

What are your opinions on the story if the women actually just shot the boy and he wasn't actually bullying her?

I don't know why but the ignorance on this post is amazing and sad.
How did the windows break then? Why would she lie? Why would the whole area support her action if those suspects were not known for antisocial behaviour? Its called inference.
 

Sven und EIN HUND

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Shooting is a tad outrageous... I mean, I don't know all the circumstances but couldn't she have just called the police? Or a neighbour? The little shit had it coming to him but.... shooting? Really?
 

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Alright, I must admit I sided with g-ma immediately because it's a funny story, but I really think she overreacted. There are much safer alternate ways of dealing with some hooligan child running amok on your patio. But I really think, legally, she's still in the clear. Trespassing + destruction of private property + harassment = open fire. She was still irresponsible, but technically within her rights. Besides making her hear a lecture from the chief of police and the kid's parents (if the little pigshit even has any), I wouldn't lay any charges on her.

That being said, I disagree with the sentiment that children should never be shot at. Just because they're kids doesn't mean they aren't dangerous, nor does it mean they necessarily don't know what they're doing.
 

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That kid's probably gonna be taken the piss out of for getting shot by an old lady.

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He deserves it IMO, making fun of an old person is just sickening.
 

Karlaxx

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I don't like it when kids get shot, bullies or not, but if he'll recover, I will lose no sleep. The fact that he was hit in the shoulder is almost certainly a fluke, so I wish it could have been resolved some other way.
 

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I'm not quite sure how to feel about this story. For one thing, this bully is a 12 year old, which makes us sympathetic to his age. On the other hand, this 12 year old knowingly harrassed an elderly woman. He vandalized her property and even if he's a kid, he knows that what he did was wrong.

Now, in some states, if someone is on your property and vandalizes it, you are allowed to shoot. Perhaps this woman didn't know her bully was 12. What bothers me is if this kid had been 18, most people would just say "He deserves it". While I do feel a bit for the kid, he (sad to say) had it coming.

Who knows what that old woman was thinking? If her windows are getting broken, maybe she thought she was in danger of being robbed or attack.

Also: According to the article, the woman had be harrassed by this boy and his friends for over a year. She had called the police before, so those saying "she should have called the police".. She did.

Of course the boy's grandma says her angel would never do anything, but her story is a bit hard to believe. The woman who shot the kid in this story was known as a kindly woman on her block, so I mean, it's hard to believe she'd shoot someone unprovoked.
 

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Jamash said:
xDarc said:
Jamash said:
So verbal abuse is enough justification to shoot children?
No. But the bricks the kid was throwing are potentially lethal. Probably the key reason no charges are being filed against granny.
This precedent should make all future riots a lot easier to deal with. If children can be justifiably shot for throwing bricks, then the police should have no trouble opening up on adults throwing any object that is considered potentially lethal.

People should think long and hard about whether they want to be shot the next time their favourite sports team loses a game.
Well if you would have read the article
the kid actually hit her with a brick, bricks and the elderly dont mix. The little fuck stick came back and started it up again and my assumption is the little old lady didn't want to get hit with another one so she shot him in the shoulder.
 

JWAN

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VanityGirl said:
I'm not quite sure how to feel about this story. For one thing, this bully is a 12 year old, which makes us sympathetic to his age. On the other hand, this 12 year old knowingly harrassed an elderly woman. He vandalized her property and even if he's a kid, he knows that what he did was wrong.

Now, in some states, if someone is on your property and vandalizes it, you are allowed to shoot. Perhaps this woman didn't know her bully was 12. What bothers me is if this kid had been 18, most people would just say "He deserves it". While I do feel a bit for the kid, he (sad to say) had it coming.

Who knows what that old woman was thinking? If her windows are getting broken, maybe she thought she was in danger of being robbed or attack.

Also: According to the article, the woman had be harrassed by this boy and his friends for over a year. She had called the police before, so those saying "she should have called the police".. She did.

Of course the boy's grandma says her angel would never do anything, but her story is a bit hard to believe. The woman who shot the kid in this story was known as a kindly woman on her block, so I mean, it's hard to believe she'd shoot someone unprovoked.
The kid hit her in the chest with a brick then came back and she didnt want to get hit with another brick, compound that and the kid had been doing this for over a year. The little fuckstick deserved one in the chest not the shoulder.
 

JWAN

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PoliceBox63 said:
She should be charged with assault too. Shooting a 12 yr old? That's not on. Ring the fucking police, woman.
Did you read the article?
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20430602,00.html
"I was terrified," the South Shore resident tells the Chicago Tribune. "The young man hit me in the chest with a brick. After a year of harassment, that was the straw that broke the camel's back."
the kid came back after she called the police and started it up again. Then the kit caught a round in the shoulder, when he deserved one in the face. Bricks and the elderly dont mix.
 

Jamash

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JWAN said:
Jamash said:
xDarc said:
Jamash said:
So verbal abuse is enough justification to shoot children?
No. But the bricks the kid was throwing are potentially lethal. Probably the key reason no charges are being filed against granny.
This precedent should make all future riots a lot easier to deal with. If children can be justifiably shot for throwing bricks, then the police should have no trouble opening up on adults throwing any object that is considered potentially lethal.

People should think long and hard about whether they want to be shot the next time their favourite sports team loses a game.
Well if you would have read the article
the kid actually hit her with a brick, bricks and the elderly dont mix. The little fuck stick came back and started it up again and my assumption is the little old lady didn't want to get hit with another one so she shot him in the shoulder.
I have read the article, and I have also read articles about the same story from other sources and every time I read an account of what supposedly happened the story changes, details get added or omitted and people's quotes change.

Once article quotes the woman as saying that she doesn't regret her actions but felt bad that she hurt him, because she wasn't aiming for anyone in particular, that she was just firing her gun to scare them off (spray & pray). If that's the case then she's lucky she only hit him in the shoulder and she should be charged with reckless use of a firearm at the very least, since that's blatantly a irresponsible and dangerous use of a firearm, especially in a built up area.

Another article quotes her as saying she felt guilty about what she did, but doesn't blame the child because she believes he "had a demon inside him" and was "acting under a outside influence", which if true, makes her actions dubious to say the least.

Some reports indicate that there's a substantial time frame between the children throwing bricks at her and the woman deciding to come out of her house firing her gun (during which she started to phone the police, but then "snapped " and decided to shoot at them instead), but some reports imply that she had the gun on her and fired immediately.

Some sources say that she called the police and the children returned after the police had left, others say that she didn't call the police because the children turned up immediately, before she had the chance to use the phone.

I've read accounts of the same story being told in enough contradictory ways to know that what's reported in that one celebrity gossip magazine is probably biased and not a true or complete account of what happened.

You shouldn't assume that she is a marksman and took down the 12 year old aggressor with a non-lethal crack shot, despite what one celebrity gossip magazine tells you.

You should also realise that the source you keep on quoting to contradict people's opinions of this event thinks that Hilary Duff changing her hair colour is more important than this story, so maybe it's not the best source for an accurate account.

Copy and paste the headline into Google and you'll see pages of the same story as reported by different news sources, many of which tell slightly different versions of events.
 

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Some one throws a brick at my house I call the cops you throw a brick and strike me and come back for more I would of shot his little ass to, age does not give you the right to be a homicidal asshole to someone, but someone being a homicidal asshole to you gives you the right to kill them.
 

GamingAwesome1

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Because shooting a child because they broke your windows is such a justifiable thing.

Shooting someone should only be justified if they're going to shoot you, or are actively trying to hurt you.
 

PissOffRoth

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This kid is gonna grow up telling people that he got shot in some drug deal or robbing a bank. Something that he thinks makes him badass.

I'll laugh when his parents say "Shut up, you got shot by some granny for throwing bricks at her windows."