My thoughts as soon as I saw this thread. Nintendo makes kid friendly that aren't always skin deep sure, but you won't convince me that Majora's Mask = Silent Hill 2. They both interesting games with mature themes but the way they're presented is completely different. You can't exactly tackle issues like rape, abuse, and violence in a Nintendo game. And you can't exactly make a survival horror game family friendly. Unfortunately Nintendo doesn't care about "adult" (finger quotes) genres anymore so people like me will consider them "kiddy" (finger quotes). Nothing wrong with their products, just not my cup of teaZhukov said:
While it was meant to point out that relatively immature nature of the mentality, the comment about 10-16 year olds was meant as a joke, not as an insult. In other words, I wasn't trying to claim that every 10-16 year old has that mentality.Thoralata said:
Acording to your reasoning, if I'm discussing with my wife if we should move to a different city we are not having a "mature" conversation, because my kid could pop any time and say "Iz like this place". We would only be real adults if we are discussing how will we have sex tonight or who would we like to kill.PoolCleaningRobot said:
Uhhh... Wot? I was only trying to talk about the messages a game can give and how some messages can't be side stepped in a manner that's "comfortable". Majora's Mask is about dealing with death which is fascinating and deep. It was easily one of the best games I played, which I didn't play until I was like 18 or 19. Its clearly a game kids and adult could learn from.Qvar said:
I apologize, looks like I got things mixed up in my head with some other post before I decided to send a reply. I do agree with what you said. I consider that Nintendo makes many "mature" games, they're just that kind of mature topics (family friendly some say) that can be discussed in front the whole family. As you said, that grants the company the "for kids" label coming from some boobies-hardcore gamers, which is funny and sad at the same time.PoolCleaningRobot said:
That is also a stigma I see in movies though not near as much. Animated films generally regarded as kid material and not for adults. What people miss is that they are not kid films but rather family films. Very few people know the distinction. I couldn't tell you a kids film right off the bat but family films. Well you might as well name pretty much every single Disney film in existence (exaggeration I know but its not too far from the truth)MysticSlayer said:
That's a quote from the Star Fox wiki site and personally find it pretty damn disturbing if it's accurate.
I highlighted the only two things I disagree with when it comes to your assessment of Link. While up to the SNES days I will agree that Link could come off as androgynous, with the 3D Zelda titles I say he's lost that angle. Now a real character that was made to be androgynous would be Nights, but the voice acting in Journey of Dreams kinda messed that up. XDlikalaruku said:
It was a Rareware game, just originally published by Nintendo. The full IP and rights were held to Rareware, and when Microsoft bought them they obtained the rights to Conker's Bad Fur Day. Hence why they update the graphics and put on the original Xbox titled Conker: Live & Reloaded. The same thing was the case with Perfect Dark and Golden Eye 007 when and why they were eventually remade.faefrost said:
