Nintendo not happy about "Amiiqo"

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9pmg5665

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1) " Well guys, it seems as if Nintendo screwed up on their Amiibo thingy. Who says we screw 'em over more?
2) Well gosh, I guess I'll go to the United Kingdoms and steal them's their Amiibo shipments.
3) I guess I'll find a way to program a chip that can hold hundreds of amiibo data inside and can also be switched with the swipe of a phone screen. You can also get the data off of our websites.
1) "Guy Number 3, you're promoted. Guy number 2, still go do that."

The system of amiiqo is basic capitalism reaction when the suppliers are just a pack of ass. I feel like we're past the point where we can call Nintendo a pack of screw ups that didn't supply their demand, but rather a pack of butt clogs that would rather make people miserable than give them what they want. As if Nintendo feeds more off of our aloof emotions than getting profits. What'll happen to then next shipments of Amiibos or even 3ds stuff? Some of those get stolen too, and no one will make more AGAIN? At that point Nintendo may as well just outsource to American companies but "Oh no, them foreigners made-ah this Amiiqo thing that stole our-ah profit-suru.". The only excuse I can see is that Nintendo either feels too hurt to become too deep into foreign lucrative business, or they don't care for lucrative business and want to be not-as-rich, but happy knowing they sucked some joy and happiness out of some possibly merry consumers. Oh well, we'll have collectible 3ds' instead.
What'll happen if a different company catches on to this toy business? Like EA's Mass Effect Andromeda has a content locked planet and mission that you can only get if you preordered the Plants Vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare 3 Collector's Edition Game stop Exclusive, Only in The United States Of America where available? Oh, well because EA is still a bit into the cash grab business standard, they'd make some freaking more EAmiigos, sell them for more money per wave.
This is literally a step-up from preorders now. Get the toy and in a few years, unlock a few items in the next game of that series. I'm just hoping that Amiibos are the last of it. Even if they are cute or create demand, they're still a no guarantee that they'll even be useful. And collecting them is completely fine, but Nintendo had just regular toys before Amiibos, not game unlocks per 15 dollars/regional equivalent.
 

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Aerosteam said:
I get that people don't like how scarce Amiibos are, but making every single one (and all variations) be available via internet as well as the DLC that comes with them, while not given Nintendo a single penny is NOT the way to deal with it.
Seems like the best way to deal with it to me (other than making all the data available for free). They shouldn't have made them so rare and expensive in the first place.
 

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This is pretty much just a reaction to Nintendo's fake scarcity of Amiibo's. Hell, in retailers in the US, they outright have not recieved shipments of Amiibo's that they were supposed to and Nintendo pretty much remained tight lipped as to why to them. Then the whole splattoon thing happened and people can't do things that are locked by the figures so someone made a way for people to actually get the most out of their games.

The code generator would pretty much be not even be an issue, and be stopped outright, if they just made more amiibos and lowered their scarcity. They decided to try to make sure the things flew off the shelves without realizing that their methods may bite them in the ass.

Sorry but this is an instance of someone giving a better service. People who pirate will pirate, but if you make things a massive hassle, people who would normally never pirate will do so just to be able to use your products.
 

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Aerosteam said:
I get that people don't like how scarce Amiibos are, but making every single one (and all variations) be available via internet as well as the DLC that comes with them, while not given Nintendo a single penny is NOT the way to deal with it.
They made premium digital downloads that are finite stock, with additional manufacturing costs (As opposed to the minimal cost of maintaining a server for a digital download), shipping fees, is exploited by price gougers and take up physical space.

Amiibos are really just disc locked digital content being unlocked by expensive and rare toys.

Nintendo doesn't deserve money for this, they deserve scorn and ridicule.

Where can I buy one of these Amiiqo things?
 

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.... I wanted to wait until the cards came out because I don't really have the space to carry around the 50+ Smash Bros Amiibos that I want. Especially not while moving and while we have a baby in the house.

If Nintendo produces the cards, I'd have 20$ a month being used specifically to pay back me burning my credit card in order to snag every single one.

But not only are those cards no where in sight, but the Amiibos themselves (Lucario, Metaknight, and DEAR FUCKING GOD SPLATOON) are all non-existant in Georgia, it seems. I've yet to see anywhere I can get them except for at least double the price online.

I'm legitimately tempted to order one of these things, just so I can play the DLC that was locked out of Splatoon. (I learned too late that the Inklings had DLC in them, or I'd have snagged them as a pre-order.)

I don't like that I'm tempted to.

I really don't.

I like Nintendo; I'm glad that Amiibos picked up as fast as they did (I honestly didn't think they would at first). And if the content that was promised was released, they'd have all of my money, and I'd say that this product shouldn't exist, since it encourages Piracy by having the avenue open.

For the record, while I have dabbled a bit in emulation, it's only ever been on games I own, actually owned, or rented religiously to the point of "I should have just bought this I've played it so many times back and forth", and only on retro systems. The only other time I think Piracy is right is if you -physically- can't get the game in your country, like with the Kingdom Hearts Final Mixes (which is why I'm planning on purchasing a PS3 since I can now legally get them).

So I don't like that I'm tempted to get this to get around the fact that even the Amiibos I do want to buy I still can't.

And yet, I'm legitimately very tempted to grab this.... does that make me a terrible fan?

Though honestly, I find myself curious about the option of saving Amiibo files, so that one doesn't have to start from scratch when using one Amiibo in one game and then another (like the Zelda Amiibos). I'm tempted to get it just for that, too. As a save-back up, I think I could buy it entirely guilt-free, because that's a cool function. Though by the time I get the actual Amiibo (cards) to interface with this, Nintendo will probably have already shut it down and figured out how to brick my WiiU for using it.

... why does trying to do what feels like the good thing seem so hard?
 

TheSpyIsASpyWDZ

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NLS said:
So it apparently comes preloaded with 10 amiibos?
That's not just piracy, that's profiteering off piracy. Sorry, nope, can't defend this in any way or form.
PS: You're all going to burn eternally in hell for supporting this shady business.
I find the statement "profiteering off piracy," quite redundant. I mean, when dvd piracy was more commonplace, the resale was just called "piracy." Anyway, I sure hope the comment you made about the supporters of this going to hell was an extreme jest. I mean, you can never be sure here, you know? If not, God is not real, Hell is not real, and do bring your high-horse attitude elsewhere. I mean, in Christianity, can't only "God" judge "the living and the dead"? Ugh.
 

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FillerDmon said:
.... I wanted to wait until the cards came out because I don't really have the space to carry around the 50+ Smash Bros Amiibos that I want. Especially not while moving and while we have a baby in the house.

If Nintendo produces the cards, I'd have 20$ a month being used specifically to pay back me burning my credit card in order to snag every single one.

But not only are those cards no where in sight, but the Amiibos themselves (Lucario, Metaknight, and DEAR FUCKING GOD SPLATOON) are all non-existant in Georgia, it seems. I've yet to see anywhere I can get them except for at least double the price online.

I'm legitimately tempted to order one of these things, just so I can play the DLC that was locked out of Splatoon. (I learned too late that the Inklings had DLC in them, or I'd have snagged them as a pre-order.)

I don't like that I'm tempted to.

I really don't.

I like Nintendo; I'm glad that Amiibos picked up as fast as they did (I honestly didn't think they would at first). And if the content that was promised was released, they'd have all of my money, and I'd say that this product shouldn't exist, since it encourages Piracy by having the avenue open.

For the record, while I have dabbled a bit in emulation, it's only ever been on games I own, actually owned, or rented religiously to the point of "I should have just bought this I've played it so many times back and forth", and only on retro systems. The only other time I think Piracy is right is if you -physically- can't get the game in your country, like with the Kingdom Hearts Final Mixes (which is why I'm planning on purchasing a PS3 since I can now legally get them).

So I don't like that I'm tempted to get this to get around the fact that even the Amiibos I do want to buy I still can't.

And yet, I'm legitimately very tempted to grab this.... does that make me a terrible fan?

Though honestly, I find myself curious about the option of saving Amiibo files, so that one doesn't have to start from scratch when using one Amiibo in one game and then another (like the Zelda Amiibos). I'm tempted to get it just for that, too. As a save-back up, I think I could buy it entirely guilt-free, because that's a cool function. Though by the time I get the actual Amiibo (cards) to interface with this, Nintendo will probably have already shut it down and figured out how to brick my WiiU for using it.

... why does trying to do what feels like the good thing seem so hard?
Kinda hard to say. I say no but it's a case by case basis for all of piracy.
 

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kasperbbs said:
I find this quite funny. And i don't feel sorry for Nintendo at all. These amiibos are basically on disc DLC that most people hate, but it's somehow ok since it's Nintendo? Well it's actually worse since some of these things are in short supply, perhaps even on purpose.
One of the reasons we are unlikely to see any real change in gaming business is because people will complain and then buy anyway, or complain until it's [company/property they like] and then justify it. It's impossible to fight things like locked, ODC when people will scramble for it if it's company X or brand Y.

9pmg5665 said:
The system of amiiqo is basic capitalism reaction when the suppliers are just a pack of ass.
I'm not sure there's any principle of capitalism that talks about breaking laws.

The premise of capitalism would include providing a better, competing service, not piggybacking on the same one. It wopuld also entail a consumer taking their business to an actual competitor. Capitalism is not anarchy.

FillerDmon said:
.... I wanted to wait until the cards came out because I don't really have the space to carry around the 50+ Smash Bros Amiibos that I want. Especially not while moving and while we have a baby in the house.

If Nintendo produces the cards, I'd have 20$ a month being used specifically to pay back me burning my credit card in order to snag every single one.

But not only are those cards no where in sight, but the Amiibos themselves (Lucario, Metaknight, and DEAR FUCKING GOD SPLATOON) are all non-existant in Georgia, it seems. I've yet to see anywhere I can get them except for at least double the price online.

I'm legitimately tempted to order one of these things, just so I can play the DLC that was locked out of Splatoon. (I learned too late that the Inklings had DLC in them, or I'd have snagged them as a pre-order.)

I don't like that I'm tempted to.

I really don't.

I like Nintendo; I'm glad that Amiibos picked up as fast as they did (I honestly didn't think they would at first). And if the content that was promised was released, they'd have all of my money, and I'd say that this product shouldn't exist, since it encourages Piracy by having the avenue open.

For the record, while I have dabbled a bit in emulation, it's only ever been on games I own, actually owned, or rented religiously to the point of "I should have just bought this I've played it so many times back and forth", and only on retro systems. The only other time I think Piracy is right is if you -physically- can't get the game in your country, like with the Kingdom Hearts Final Mixes (which is why I'm planning on purchasing a PS3 since I can now legally get them).

So I don't like that I'm tempted to get this to get around the fact that even the Amiibos I do want to buy I still can't.

And yet, I'm legitimately very tempted to grab this.... does that make me a terrible fan?

Though honestly, I find myself curious about the option of saving Amiibo files, so that one doesn't have to start from scratch when using one Amiibo in one game and then another (like the Zelda Amiibos). I'm tempted to get it just for that, too. As a save-back up, I think I could buy it entirely guilt-free, because that's a cool function. Though by the time I get the actual Amiibo (cards) to interface with this, Nintendo will probably have already shut it down and figured out how to brick my WiiU for using it.

... why does trying to do what feels like the good thing seem so hard?
It doesn't make you a terrible fan, but that doesn't make it the correct course of action.
 

AzrealMaximillion

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Johnny Novgorod said:
Fuck 'em. Don't create demand if you can't supply it.
Yup. If you wanna sell rare toys, sell rare toys. Don't add video game functionality and willfully create rarity by low supply.
 

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If Nintendo doesn't want to do the one thing their company is supposed to do: Capitalize on Demand (known, existing Demand), then let them pay for their idiocy.

As for the "ethics"...I frankly don't give a damn because I have no stake in their stupid Amiibo fad. Closest comparison is that to CCGs, which are just as much a money throwing contest as they are legitimate games.
 

RaikuFA

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AzrealMaximillion said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
Fuck 'em. Don't create demand if you can't supply it.
Yup. If you wanna sell rare toys, sell rare toys. Don't add video game functionality and willfully create rarity by low supply.
Or better yet, sell the DLC that's supposed to be unlocked through amiibo cheaper.