Nintendo Switch has sold 4.7 Million units to date.

[Yoshi178]

Just about all the games I buy have "Playstation" on the box since they are for Playstation systems...

Holy shit it's almost like alot of the games i buy have "Nintendo" on the box because they are for Nintendo systems!

Now Sony published/developed games, I don't buy that many of them.

fine. you just love 3rd Party games then rather than exclusives

Guess what I didn't buy, Uncharted: The Lost Legacy.

Guess what i didn't buy Mario Party 10 until recently when i found it dirt cheap in a preowned bargain bin. still haven't played it.

Since when does Xbox have better 1st party games than 3rd-party offering?

i'd much rather play Halo and Gears of War rather than Call of Duty and Battlefield

People were praising the PS4 on the Escapist? When? Threads here are about GAMES, not systems (outside of the occasional PC master race circle-jerk thread).

if you say so...

I said SINCE the Gamecube. I'd love for Nintendo to make another Gamecube, that's what I've been wanting Nintendo to do for their last 3 systems. I WANT Nintendo to be relevant again.

you obviously haven't been paying enough attention then because the Wii U was much more like a Gamecube than it was like a Wii. small library, but some quality games on there. just like the Gamecube.

So, you can go ahead and take back that salt shaker.

thanks it'll go great on my hot chips.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

fine. you just love 3rd Party games then rather than exclusives

i'd much rather play Halo and Gears of War rather than Call of Duty and Battlefield

you obviously haven't been paying enough attention then because the Wii U was much more like a Gamecube than it was like a Wii. small library, but some quality games on there. just like the Gamecube.

It doesn't matter if the game is 3rd-party or 1st-party, it's the game that matters.

There's far more shooters than COD and BF. For example, Vanquish is Gears on speed.

You're forgetting what the Gamecube was that no other Nintendo system has been since. The Gamecube could play current-gen games during its time.

 

[Paradine]

fine. you just love 3rd Party games then rather than exclusives

i'd much rather play Halo and Gears of War rather than Call of Duty and Battlefield

you obviously haven't been paying enough attention then because the Wii U was much more like a Gamecube than it was like a Wii. small library, but some quality games on there. just like the Gamecube.

It doesn't matter if the game is 3rd-party or 1st-party, it's the game that matters.

There's far more shooters than COD and BF. For example, Vanquish is Gears on speed.

You're forgetting what the Gamecube was that no other Nintendo system has been since. The Gamecube could play current-gen games during its time.

Isnt NBA 2k18 the same game as the XBox n PS versions?

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

Isnt NBA 2k18 the same game as the XBox n PS versions?

Sports games usually scale well to old hardware compared to other games like say how poor last-gen versions of Dragon Age Inquisition, Watch Dogs, Shadow of Mordor, etc. Sports games have a very small game world (the court, field, etc.) and always a set number of characters on screen at once.

 

[Yoshi178]

It doesn't matter if the game is 3rd-party or 1st-party, it's the game that matters.

cool then it shouldn't matter to you that Nintendo consoles don't have as much 3rd Party support as the other platforms.

should just be the games it does have that matter.

 

[CritialGaming]

It doesn't matter if the game is 3rd-party or 1st-party, it's the game that matters.

cool then it shouldn't matter to you that Nintendo consoles don't have as much 3rd Party support as the other platforms.

should just be the games it does have that matter.

That is a flawed argument, because most people don't get to buy multiple consoles. 3rd party games are a big boon to people when it comes to choosing a console to be their SOLE console. Because it allows people to make a decision based on the exclusives that they want to play most without having to sacrifice not being able to play the 3rd party games that they also want to play.

For example if I am a huge Call of Duty fan (p.s. I'm not), then I have basically three gaming options available to me. Ps4, Xbone, and PC. Let's say I can't afford a PC so really I have only two choices. The problem is, what if the exclusive games I really want to play are Zelda and Mario? You would say, "get a Switch and forget Call of Duty" right? But what if I also like Final Fantasy, Far Cry, Witcher, Need for Speed, Madden, Assassin's Creed, any number of big third party franchises. If I can only buy ONE system, why would I sacrifice all these other games for Zelda (oh which a new one only comes once every 5 years) and Mario?

It just doesn't make sense. Now you might not care, but the average gamer would care. The only consumer who wouldn't notice the difference is parents buying a Switch for a child. Which, to be fair, might be Nintendo's plan. After all Nintendo has always considered themselves a toy company. Toys for children. Children who don't know any better.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

It doesn't matter if the game is 3rd-party or 1st-party, it's the game that matters.

cool then it shouldn't matter to you that Nintendo consoles don't have as much 3rd Party support as the other platforms.

should just be the games it does have that matter.

Since Critical handled why this argument is so bad I give you this...

Spoiler: ''Ya chatting breeze''

 

[Yoshi178]

It doesn't matter if the game is 3rd-party or 1st-party, it's the game that matters.

cool then it shouldn't matter to you that Nintendo consoles don't have as much 3rd Party support as the other platforms.

should just be the games it does have that matter.

That is a flawed argument, because most people don't get to buy multiple consoles. 3rd party games are a big boon to people when it comes to choosing a console to be their SOLE console.

phoenix literally just said it doesn't matter if the games are 1st party or 3rd Party though. Nintendo's 1st party and exclusive games support is much better than what Sony and MS have so if you want 3rd party just play them on PC and bam, you then already have 90% of the PS4 and Xbox One libraries.

3rd party games either do matter or they don't matter. make up your mind phoenix. :3

 

[CritialGaming]

It doesn't matter if the game is 3rd-party or 1st-party, it's the game that matters.

cool then it shouldn't matter to you that Nintendo consoles don't have as much 3rd Party support as the other platforms.

should just be the games it does have that matter.

That is a flawed argument, because most people don't get to buy multiple consoles. 3rd party games are a big boon to people when it comes to choosing a console to be their SOLE console.

phoenix literally just said it doesn't matter if the games are 1st party or 3rd Party though. Nintendo's 1st party and exclusive games support is much better than what Sony and MS have so if you want 3rd party just play them on PC and bam, you then already have 90% of the PS4 and Xbox One libraries.

3rd party games either do matter or they don't matter. make up your mind phoenix. :3

He was referring to the shooters I believe, but his phrasing is bad.

Either way it doesn't matter Yoshi. If you are going to talk semantics then you've already lost any chance of proving a point.

Nintendo does have great 1st party support because if they didn't, they wouldn't have ANY games on the system. My last post already told you why 3rd party games matter. History has proven that over and over against with Nintendo which hasn't had the dominate console on the market since the SNES. Nintendo has been niche only since 1999 and they are proving to continue to be niche. It works for them because they win out on the 12 and under market. But they will never be the dominate system on the market so long as they continue to shaft out 3rd party support and make console hardware a generation behind everybody else.

 

[Yoshi178]

you've already lost any chance of proving a point.

you already decided that before you even entered this thread so i don't know why you're here.

 

[CritialGaming]

you've already lost any chance of proving a point.

you already decided that before you even entered this thread so i don't know why you're here.

Now that is unfair. I am always willing to hear the points and discuss things with the other side of any given argument. But you haven't offered any of that. Instead you reply with childish responses like, "Why do you wanna know?" "It doesn't matter so I'm not answering that." And on and on. Several people in this thread have trying to give you the benefit of the doubt and provide you with the options to express your reasoning, but you have offered nothing.

You wanna put a cap on this thread simply state then that, "You don't care what anybody thinks. The Switch is an amazing console and I don't care about anything but Nintendo games so the lack of outside support means nothing to me."

You've basically already said it anyway. Considering your only replies to really points against Switch success have been, "lalalla I can't hear you. Lalalala Nintendo's great. Lalala."

 

[Yoshi178]

My last post already told you why 3rd party games matter

and Switch s already doing much better in the 3rd party department. sure alot of the 3rd Party games are ports, but that's because devs are clearly texting the waters on switch first before they fully commit to throwing their full development support costs onto the system. after the low sales of the Wii U can you really blame them?


and at the same time, alot of these games "old games" that are coming to Switch also happen to be coming to Xbox One and PS4 as well in case you didn't notice.

Why should i be excited that LA Noire is coming to Switch? why should i be excited that it's coming to PS4 and Xbox One?

and just on Rockstar, the fact that Rockstar is even putting this game on a Nintendo platform is pretty big news considering it's well known that Rockstar and Nintendo have not had the best relationship in previous years. hell the last time Rockstar even made a game for a Nintendo system was GTA Chinatown wars and that was on the freaking DS nearly a decade ago which isn't even a main home console. was just a much more simple handheld exclusive game.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

phoenix literally just said it doesn't matter if the games are 1st party or 3rd Party though. Nintendo's 1st party and exclusive games support is much better than what Sony and MS have so if you want 3rd party just play them on PC and bam, you then already have 90% of the PS4 and Xbox One libraries.

3rd party games either do matter or they don't matter. make up your mind phoenix. :3

I said the GAMES matter (meaning the entire library), I said I just got Danganronpa and Shadow Tactics (both 3rd party games the Switch ain't getting). I care about a system having an abundant amount of good games regardless if those games are 1st or 3rd party. Sony puts out more 1st-party games than Nintendo and MS combined. Let me know when the Switch has 1st-party support just comparable to Horizon and The Last Guardian. Even if I was into Nintendo franchises, there's literally no reason to buy a Switch yet as I can play Zelda on WiiU and I can play Splatoon on WiiU without a stupid phone app. I prefer playing on a console vs a PC (my PC doesn't even have a video card) and now with so many PC games coming to consoles (not the Switch obviously) from Witcher 3 to Shadow Tactics to Divinity OS/Pillars of Eternity to Cities: Skylines, what does the PC really have over a PS4 anyway? I guess like Shadowrun but like ANY PC can play that.

and Switch s already doing much better in the 3rd party department. sure alot of the 3rd Party games are ports, but that's because devs are clearly texting the waters on switch first before they fully commit to throwing their full development support costs onto the system.

The Switch doesn't have 3rd-party support and never will because it can't play current games. The Switch can't even get a port of the DS series Zero Escape, it can't get indies, etc. The fact that you think any pub/dev is going to fully commit to the Switch borders on insanity. The best support the Switch will get is if it takes over the portable market getting portable-level commitment from 3rd-parties.

 

[Yoshi178]

Let me know when the Switch has 1st-party support just comparable to Horizon and The Last Guardian.

as you wish.

The fact that you think any pub/dev is going to fully commit to the Switch borders on insanity.

not really. i'll let Richard from ReviewtechUSA explain it to you.

 

[Hawki]

Nintendo's 1st party and exclusive games support is much better than what Sony and MS have

Very debatable. It comes down to personal preference, but here's a quick snippit from Wikipedia:

-Xbox One: 1344 games, 31 exclusive, 148 console exclusive

-PlayStation 4: 1819 games, 109 exclusive, 410 console exclusive

-Nintendo Switch: 395 games, 58 exclusive, 8 Nintendo exclusive

If we factor in personal preference and I whittle this down to exclusives that interest me and/or I already have, this becomes:

-Xbox One: 10 exclusives

-PlayStation 4: 32 exclusives

-Nintendo Switch: 6 exclusives

Of course, the Switch is a latecomer here, but I can't say by any measure that it has better exclusives than its competitors. That may change in time, but even so, it's offset by how it's the least appealing console for third party games.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

Let me know when the Switch has 1st-party support just comparable to Horizon and The Last Guardian.

as you wish.

The fact that you think any pub/dev is going to fully commit to the Switch borders on insanity.

not really. i'll let Richard from ReviewtechUSA explain it to you.

LMAO, Breath of the Wild is on WiiU... It's the equivalent of saying you need a PS4 for TLOU. We've already been through how review scores don't matter as GTAV is shit to you and is tied with your precious BotW on Metacritic.

LA Noire... I would've played it 6 years ago if I wanted to.

 

[Yoshi178]

LMAO, Breath of the Wild is on WiiU... It's the equivalent of saying you need a PS4 for TLOU. We've already been through how review scores don't matter as GTAV is shit to you and is tied with your precious BotW on Metacritic.

LA Noire... I would've played it 6 years ago if I wanted to.

Splatoon 2 and Mario + Rabbids Kingdom battle already have higher metacritic scores than the Last Guardian and are both exclusive to Switch though.

Super Mario Odyssey is also releasing next month and i'm willing to bet that that game will receive a higher metacritic score than Uncharted 4.

 

[Yoshi178]

but of course since we aren't using metacritic scores to determine quality, i can also say that ARMS is on the Last Guardians and Uncharted 4's level of quality too despite it only receiving a 77/100 metacritic score

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

LMAO, Breath of the Wild is on WiiU... It's the equivalent of saying you need a PS4 for TLOU. We've already been through how review scores don't matter as GTAV is shit to you and is tied with your precious BotW on Metacritic.

LA Noire... I would've played it 6 years ago if I wanted to.

Splatoon 2 and Mario + Rabbids Kingdom battle already have higher metacritic scores than the Last Guardian and are both exclusive to Switch though.

Super Mario Odyssey is also releasing next month and i'm willing to bet that that game will receive a higher metacritic score than Uncharted 4.

but of course since we aren't using metacritic scores to determine quality, i can also say that ARMS is on the Last Guardians and Uncharted 4's level of quality too despite it only receiving a 77/100 metacritic score

What's with you and game scores, game journalism and criticism is a joke. Score doesn't even factor in when deciding to buy a game or not unless it actually scores under an 80, then I do some quick research to find if there's anything majorly wrong with the game as it's quite an "accomplishment" for a game to score under 80 nowadays. Also, if a game scores mid to upper 90s, then I'm also pretty suspect because those type games don't have a good track history with me as something that is fresh or unique (what I look for) rarely caters to everyone.

You don't realize that every game you list, there's at least 10 quality games I can list that the Switch doesn't and will never have. Why do I need a Switch for Splatoon 2 when Splatoon 1 is arguably better while the PS4/X1/PC have tons of shooters anyway? Why MUST I play Mario + Rabbiids when I have XCOM and Shadow Tactics? ARMs, really? Super Mario Odyssey MIGHT be a game that's a fresh and unique experience that I can't get anywhere else. But buying a system for one game isn't worth it when I can just wait for the system and the game to go down in price while I play the tons of other games I already want to play on the systems I do have.

 

[Yoshi178]

You don't realize that every game you list, there's at least 10 quality games I can list that the Switch doesn't and will never have.

well as we've already clarified. quality is completely subjective and i don't consider alot of the PS4 games that you consider to be good "quality" to be so. The Last Guardian? LMAO! you mean the game that with bad controls and revolves around trying to tell your Griffin friend to do stuff but like a dog, he doesn't listen and usually does the complete opposite thing to what you actually want him to do?