Nintendo Switch has sold 4.7 Million units to date.

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

What are you talking about here? If you are saying that the Switch being portable makes it a better system is a fundamentally flawed argument due to the fact that the Switch isn't really portable. It's a home console with a handheld capability, but having a 90-120 minute battery life doesn't qualify it as a portable to me. And it's convenience for you still doesn't make it the better system. So the original statement stands, that if you are a huge Nintendo fan who truly loves and gets endless hours of play from games like Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, etc, then sure the Switch can be your favorite system.

For starters, I've played my Switch for 3 hours in handheld mode. Secondly, like every other student I carry a portable USB recharger. Last thing you need either in the lab or organising for group cramming or the like is a dead phone or laptop.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

not good enough. you want an answer from me, you answer my question in full first rather than sharing vague "hints" to me or else i'm not answering the question.

You are the one who originally wanted something from me in this thread after all, not the other way around.

If you care so much what others think, you got bigger problems. I don't have a problem telling people what I like or don't like regardless of how unpopular it is.

I could however have a brand new PC for the cost of a brand new PS3 Slim and a brand new PS4 Pro. And I could have it play most current games including the entirety of the Witcher series on one machine. Assuming I don't have to do think like rebuy Windows, or a monitor.

I would be saving money, time, space, the parts are easily purchasable, and I can continue upgrading the machine as I get more money.

It would also be of superior tech. New processor, new motherboard, $75 dollar case with inbuilt 500W power supply, a cheap HDD. Sure it won't be a gamer's dream machine, but it will outperform the PS4 Pro.

Your point that a PS3 and PS4 Pro cost more? Why would someone buy a PS3 now anyways? It seems like you have to use the PS4 Pro to get the price up to make PC gaming seem cheaper because you don't need the PS4 Pro to play current-gen games.

A: For starters Nintendo has been actively competing and beating Sony's market cap for awhile now.
B: Sony has been stagnating since the Walkman.

A: No they haven't
B: Nintendo can't continually beat a stagnating company?

As in you couldn't access it unless you preordered you mean? Wolf Link is a loveletter to the fans who buy a metric fuckton of Nintendo product. I have the Wolf Link Amiibo simply because it was actually easier to order the special remaster bundle of Twilight Princess in Australia than it was to buy a regular copy.

How many times have I used? Precisely once, for the novelty. That's different from telling future interested parties that entire story and gameplay basic additions were cut and monetised solely ro drive up preorder culture.

You mean the $2 Harley Quinn DLC that I can buy right now? VS buying a piece of plastic for $15 for a couple bucks worth of content? Or how about locking difficulty modes behind plastic?

Of which I will happen to play more often? ... not simply because I like Nintendo games more, but because I spend less time in my house than outside. If I'm inside why play the PS4 Pro beyond games like my current NG +9 Bloodborne run?

Having a job and studying, or seeking greater convenience, isn't a 'taste'.

Most people don't have free time to play console gaming on the go during their average day. Most people don't use public transportation, most people don't have class. Your lunch break is really the only free time for most people who need it for eating and probably making a necessary call or text with loved ones.

Secondly, like every other student I carry a portable USB recharger. Last thing you need either in the lab or organising for group cramming or the like is a dead phone or laptop.

Uhh... Then, why are you wasting your portable charger on a portable console when you need it for your phone or laptop?

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

Your point that a PS3 and PS4 Pro cost more? Why would someone buy a PS3 now anyways? It seems like you have to use the PS4 Pro to get the price up to make PC gaming seem cheaper because you don't need the PS4 Pro to play current-gen games.

Because that's the only way to play the complete series of most games now. Henbce why people will be playing the Witcher on a PC. Because when you have people who are like; "Wow, people really loved Witcher 3 ... I'd really like to play the prior installations first, however..." they aren't going to be looking at consoles.

A: No they haven't
B: Nintendo can't continually beat a stagnating company?

A: Yeah it has, since Q2 last year. The Switch is merely icing on the cake with things like Pokemon Go.
B: Which is funny given out of the big 3, Nintendo seems to be the least haemorrhaging money.

You mean the $2 Harley Quinn DLC that I can buy right now? VS buying a piece of plastic for $15 for a couple bucks worth of content? Or how about locking difficulty modes behind plastic?

Then don't buy them, I'm quite content not to despite your avid disagreement that I apparently can't like my Switch unless I'm a fangirl.

Most people don't have free time to play console gaming on the go during their average day.

And yet there's more people playing board games than ever. Second golden age of boardgaming apparently. The Switch is tapping into a mindset games need not be played in people's homes, because that's precisely what we're seeing with phones and tablets. The difference is that the Switch offers gamers the chance or choice to immediately involve their friends wherever they are.

Most people don't use public transportation, most people don't have class.

Many people do not have stable electricity and drinkable tap water (if even that), since when has gaming been about catering anyone else but the bourgeoisie?

Your lunch break is really the only free time for most people who need it for eating and probably making a necessary call or text with loved ones.

For me personally? I use on break or inbetween classes.

Uhh... Then, why are you wasting your portable charger on a portable console when you need it for your phone or laptop?

Because there's more than enough power to go around with my USB powerbrick. Weighs 220 grams incl. cables.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

Your point that a PS3 and PS4 Pro cost more? Why would someone buy a PS3 now anyways? It seems like you have to use the PS4 Pro to get the price up to make PC gaming seem cheaper because you don't need the PS4 Pro to play current-gen games.

Because that's the only way to play the complete series of most games now. Henbce why people will be playing the Witcher on a PC. Because when you have people who are like; "Wow, people really loved Witcher 3 ... I'd really like to play the prior installations first, however..." they aren't going to be looking at consoles.

You can buy a PC really really cheap that can play last-gen and older games. It makes no sense to buy a PS3 now. And, I played Witcher 3 and I'm probably not going to ever play another CDPR game until they actually "git gud" with regards to gameplay.

A: Yeah it has, since Q2 last year. The Switch is merely icing on the cake with things like Pokemon Go.
B: Which is funny given out of the big 3, Nintendo seems to be the least haemorrhaging money.

A: Nope
B: You seem to not know what words mean at this point. Microsoft hemorrhaging money? LMAO.

Then don't buy them, I'm quite content not to despite your avid disagreement that I apparently can't like my Switch unless I'm a fangirl.

You're Straw-manning pretty hard in this whole response. You were arguing that pre-order content is worse than Amiibo content saying you can't get pre-order content, which isn't true. But having to pay a couple extra bucks for content is worse than paying $15 for a difficulty level? You need to buy 4 Amiibos to get all the content for Metroid: Samus Returns. I'd rather pre-order (which is FREE) and buy a $20 season pass than pay $60 for 4 Amiibos. You go ahead and enjoy whatever the hell you want, I couldn't care less. This isn't about you.

Most people don't have free time to play console gaming on the go during their average day.

And yet there's more people playing board games than ever. Second golden age of boardgaming apparently. The Switch is tapping into a mindset games need not be played in people's homes, because that's precisely what we're seeing with phones and tablets. The difference is that the Switch offers gamers the chance or choice to immediately involve their friends wherever they are.

Another straw-man. People aren't playing board games on the go. People take part in their hobbies (whether video games, board games, movies, golf, etc.) in scheduled time outside of work. The entire thread is about whether the Switch will become a legit console (unlike the Wii and WiiU) and start taking market share from Sony and MS. Again, most people don't have time to play console games on the go, you might and that's fine. Those mini-games you can involve your friends in will only be something entertaining for like an hour or so a month, if that. One of my buddies that plays board games brought his Switch to our every Monday board gaming night and we played for about an hour and haven't since then. If the Switch does become highly successful, it will be due to becoming the new DS and taking that market, you know, that market that Nintendo already has... Thus, Nintendo will be staying where they are even if the Switch becomes big.

Many people do not have stable electricity and drinkable tap water (if even that), since when has gaming been about catering anyone else but the bourgeoisie?

Video gaming is one of the cheapest hobbies out there.

Your lunch break is really the only free time for most people who need it for eating and probably making a necessary call or text with loved ones.

For me personally? I use on break or inbetween classes.

It's not about you. It's about the average person and gamer. The average person nor the average gamer has class. The average gamer has a standard job with a family. How is the Switch supposed to be successful if it taps into a gaming demographic that is definitely the minority?

 

[Yoshi178]

not good enough. you want an answer from me, you answer my question in full first rather than sharing vague "hints" to me or else i'm not answering the question.

You are the one who originally wanted something from me in this thread after all, not the other way around.

If you care so much what others think, you got bigger problems. I don't have a problem telling people what I like or don't like regardless of how unpopular it is.

you didn't ask me if i like Xenosaga & Xenogears. you asked me if i've played them. i don't have a problem telling you if i've played them or not. i'm just curious why you care if i've played them or not? and apparently it's such a big issue for you to tell me your motive on why you want know if i've played them which only makes me reluctant to tell you.

you already know what kinds of games i like.

 

[CritialGaming]

What are you talking about here? If you are saying that the Switch being portable makes it a better system is a fundamentally flawed argument due to the fact that the Switch isn't really portable. It's a home console with a handheld capability, but having a 90-120 minute battery life doesn't qualify it as a portable to me. And it's convenience for you still doesn't make it the better system. So the original statement stands, that if you are a huge Nintendo fan who truly loves and gets endless hours of play from games like Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, etc, then sure the Switch can be your favorite system.

For starters, I've played my Switch for 3 hours in handheld mode. Secondly, like every other student I carry a portable USB recharger. Last thing you need either in the lab or organising for group cramming or the like is a dead phone or laptop.

That's fine, but how does portability make it a better system? Hell if you have a Wi-Fi connection, you can play Playstation 4 games anywhere with a VITA. If you need it to be portable most of your play time, how is a switch better than a 3DS?

A console lives and breaths on games. And it is far too soon to call the Switch anything right now. I'm sure Nintendo is happy with it for now because they've sold a bunch. But if they want the system to continue to sell, it will be the games that continue to drive the Switch forward.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

Well THIS came right the hell out of nowhere:

http://nintendoeverything.com/rockstar-games-announces-new-version-of-l-a-noire-for-switch-out-on-november-14/

What I really want is a Red Dead Redemption port. Motion controls are just so much better for aiming.

 

[CritialGaming]

Well THIS came right the hell out of nowhere:

http://nintendoeverything.com/rockstar-games-announces-new-version-of-l-a-noire-for-switch-out-on-november-14/

What I really want is a Red Dead Redemption port. Motion controls are just so much better for aiming.

Looks like one of them HD remakes. I notice the poster says it's coming from Ps4, Xbox, and Vive too. Sadly I played and beat this game almost seven years ago now, so I don't think I'll drop 60 bucks on played it with a worse frame rate.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

i don't have a problem telling you if i've played them or not.

Then, just say if you played them or not. What's the big deal?

Here's basically well over 90% of the games I've played since trophies became a thing:
https://psnprofiles.com/Phoenixmgs

 

[CaitSeith]

What are you talking about here? If you are saying that the Switch being portable makes it a better system is a fundamentally flawed argument due to the fact that the Switch isn't really portable. It's a home console with a handheld capability, but having a 90-120 minute battery life doesn't qualify it as a portable to me. And it's convenience for you still doesn't make it the better system. So the original statement stands, that if you are a huge Nintendo fan who truly loves and gets endless hours of play from games like Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, etc, then sure the Switch can be your favorite system.

For starters, I've played my Switch for 3 hours in handheld mode. Secondly, like every other student I carry a portable USB recharger. Last thing you need either in the lab or organising for group cramming or the like is a dead phone or laptop.

That's fine, but how does portability make it a better system? Hell if you have a Wi-Fi connection, you can play Playstation 4 games anywhere with a VITA. If you need it to be portable most of your play time, how is a switch better than a 3DS?

A console lives and breaths on games. And it is far too soon to call the Switch anything right now. I'm sure Nintendo is happy with it for now because they've sold a bunch. But if they want the system to continue to sell, it will be the games that continue to drive the Switch forward.

No Wi-Fi on the commute = no PS4 games playable through VITA on the commute. Beside, not all games support Remote Play.
3DS has no Breath of the Wild or Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle
I'll wait until Skyrim is released (and 6 months of patching have passed) though.

PS: 11 pages!? This is insane!

 

[Yoshi178]

i don't have a problem telling you if i've played them or not.

Then, just say if you played them or not. What's the big deal?

because you make reluctant to tell you by making such a big deal out of me asking you "why do you care if i've played them?".

 

[CritialGaming]

i don't have a problem telling you if i've played them or not.

Then, just say if you played them or not. What's the big deal?

because you make reluctant to tell you by making such a big deal out of me asking you "why do you care if i've played them?".

Because by having not played these games, you loose most of your credibility when talking about them. Since you are being so defensive about it, it is pretty clear you haven't played them. Which for the last two or three pages now, you've had no justification in your argument.

 

[Yoshi178]

i don't have a problem telling you if i've played them or not.

Then, just say if you played them or not. What's the big deal?

because you make reluctant to tell you by making such a big deal out of me asking you "why do you care if i've played them?".

Because by having not played these games, you loose most of your credibility when talking about them. Since you are being so defensive about it, it is pretty clear you haven't played them. Which for the last two or three pages now, you've had no justification in your argument.

i wasn't even talking about Xenogears and Xenosaga before. phoenix just asked me out of the blue if i've played those or not when i said Xenoblade Chronicles was one of my favourite games of all time.

 

[CritialGaming]

i don't have a problem telling you if i've played them or not.

Then, just say if you played them or not. What's the big deal?

because you make reluctant to tell you by making such a big deal out of me asking you "why do you care if i've played them?".

Because by having not played these games, you loose most of your credibility when talking about them. Since you are being so defensive about it, it is pretty clear you haven't played them. Which for the last two or three pages now, you've had no justification in your argument.

i wasn't even talking about Xenogears and Xenosaga before. phoenix just asked me out of the blue if i've played those or not when i said Xenoblade Chronicles was one of my favourite games of all time.

And that made you get defensive? Why not just say yes or no? Instead you dragged it out into a pointless slapfight. Grow up.

 

[Yoshi178]

i don't have a problem telling you if i've played them or not.

Then, just say if you played them or not. What's the big deal?

because you make reluctant to tell you by making such a big deal out of me asking you "why do you care if i've played them?".

Because by having not played these games, you loose most of your credibility when talking about them. Since you are being so defensive about it, it is pretty clear you haven't played them. Which for the last two or three pages now, you've had no justification in your argument.

i wasn't even talking about Xenogears and Xenosaga before. phoenix just asked me out of the blue if i've played those or not when i said Xenoblade Chronicles was one of my favourite games of all time.

And that made you get defensive? Why not just say yes or no? Instead you dragged it out into a pointless slapfight. Grow up.

asking phoenix why does he care if i've played them makes phoenix get defensive? maybe he should grow up.

 

[CritialGaming]

asking phoenix why does he care if i've played them makes phoenix get defensive? maybe he should grow up.

It doesn't matter why he cares. The point is he asked a question and you responded with another question that completely dodged his question. Why couldn't you just say yes or no? Instead you got defensive and started this whole thing for no reason. And you continue to do so.

So how about this. I'll ask.

Yoshi, have you ever played Xenogears or Xenosaga? I ask because if you liked Xenoblade Chronicles, you would probably like the previous Xeno-style games better. Xenogears is one of the best RPG's ever made, and you are missing out if you haven't given it a try.

 

[Yoshi178]

It doesn't matter why he cares. The point is he asked a question and you responded with another question that completely dodged his question.

asking why does he care if i've played them isn't dodging the question at all.

 

[CritialGaming]

It doesn't matter why he cares. The point is he asked a question and you responded with another question that completely dodged his question.

asking why does he care if i've played them isn't dodging the question at all.

Yoshi, have you ever played Xenogears or Xenosaga? I ask because if you liked Xenoblade Chronicles, you would probably like the previous Xeno-style games better. Xenogears is one of the best RPG's ever made, and you are missing out if you haven't given it a try.

 

[Yoshi178]

It doesn't matter why he cares.

in your opinion.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

It doesn't matter why he cares. The point is he asked a question and you responded with another question that completely dodged his question.

asking why does he care if i've played them isn't dodging the question at all.

I'm merely going to reference something you yourself said once you answer the question. Do you not have confidence in what you say?