Nintendo Too Late To Attract Third-Party Support, Bethesda Says

[Lightknight]

I don't know that Nintendo is trying to attract 3rd party developers. Their last statement was that they weren't about to stoop to Sony's or Microsoft's level of actively seeking out and rewarding companies for developing for them.

I think that's really behind the times but is about what I expect from a company that has been around since 1889.

 

[xaszatm]

Lets certainly hope so. As am I.

Look back at this thread critically. You've gone on the attack to anyone who's said something even SLIGHTLY critical of Nintendo. Nintendo would be proud of your defense, but realistically, they would rather have more of your money.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5FfJ89rGPc

Oh yes, you've been so critical in this forum. You have been the paramount of objective thinking.

As I said in my first post, each of you abused Nintendo spouses needs to buy 30,000 of your friends a WiiU for xmas this year, or it'll only be Nintendo made games (which is what you want anyway.) Stop whinging at Pete Hines.

By the by, if Nintendo fans are abused spouses, what does that make Xbox One fans? EA fans? Bioware fans? Oh, and how does Nintendo act like an abused spouse anyways? By making the games Nintendo fans want to play? Oh, no! How horrible! Those other options are a much better choice of an "abused relationship" than Nintendo.

Also, why aren't we allowed to criticize? He made a public statement, we are free to say what we thought of it. You are free to criticize us criticizing him. Free speech goes both ways.

Please read this and try to understand what the person is saying. If you are a nintendo fanboy, you will feel confused and awkward, it is the sound of reason breaking thru your fingers in your ears screaming "NANANANANANANANANANA" in denial.

"The Death Of Nintendo Has Been Greatly Under-Exaggerated"
http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/04/nintendont/

Oh, and as a Nintendo fanboy, when I read that article, that wasn't the sound of reason breaking through me, it was the sound of idiocy masquerading as reason. Someone who has no idea about business acting as an armchair CEO. You want to know why the video game industry is about to reach a financial bubble? The short-term planning that has possessed the electronics market. You want to know one of the few companies that ISN'T acting this moronic? Nintendo.

Also, if Nintendo is dying (and don't say that wasn't the point, you put this article here, you are definitely making it ONE of your points), what is Sony and Microsoft again? Sony sold its corporate headquarters. Microsoft has become a laughing stock in every department and is relying on the Xbox One or the new Nokia buyout to survive. These two have a much bigger chance of failing than Nintendo. And yet Nintendo, who is still selling gangbusters in the 3DS to make up for the WiiU sales (see, we acknowledge the WiiU sold poorly. We also say that the reason it is selling poorly is because lack of games, nothing about the system itself), is the one who will go out of business.

Oh and one more thing. The reason why I wrote this response is not because I can't handle some criticism about my favorite video game company. It because of your response. You, who from the very first post in this thread have been doing nothing but derisive name calling, wailing over anyone who had a point, and claiming that we are seeing things that aren't there when its black and white, have the gall to say that it is US that attack anyone with the slightest bit of criticism. You, who quote armchair CEOs who have never run a business in their life and pass them off as business gurus, have the gall to deride anyone with actual facts. How dare you.

 

[stiffy]

Quote Blah, blah blah, sarcascm, Quote, defensiveness, poor understanding of business, bla blah, paranoia.....nintendo..... How dare You?
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Since when is this a "stiffy ethics trial" thread. The thread is about nintendo wii u and and bethesda. Attack me all you want, I talked negatively about a toy game you play. Get over it. How does you attacking me sell more Wii U's, or prove your point? Shoot the messenger? If you belittling me makes you feel like an internet tough guy, congrats. I never said Nintendo was dying, its console is selling terribly and its making myopic business choices. That is Pete Hines reasoning behind what he said.

Btw, this is where i found the article you linked. This person has different opinions than you about nintendo so he is wrong, stupid and and wannabe arm-chair ceo.
‏@michaelpachter
"This is well written, pretty interesting: http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/04/nintendont/ ? Don't read it if you are an incorrigible Nintendo fan, it will enflame you"

 

[xaszatm]

Quote Blah, blah blah, sarcascm, Quote, defensiveness, poor understanding of business, bla blah, paranoia.....nintendo..... How dare You?
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Since when is this a "stiffy ethics trial" thread. The thread is about nintendo wii u and and bethesda. Attack me all you want, I talked negatively about a toy game you play. Get over it. How does you attacking me sell more Wii U's, or prove your point? Shoot the messenger? If you belittling me makes you feel like an internet tough guy, congrats. I never said Nintendo was dying, its console is selling terribly and its making myopic business choices. That is Pete Hines reasoning behind what he said.

Btw, this is where i found the article you linked. This person has different opinions than you about nintendo so he is wrong, stupid and and wannabe arm-chair ceo.
‏@michaelpachter
"This is well written, pretty interesting: http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/04/nintendont/ ? Don't read it if you are an incorrigible Nintendo fan, it will enflame you"

Actually, what you are doing in this post is what's pissing me off. I quite frankly do not care about your opinion on Nintendo at this point. My entire problem is with YOU. Not your opinion. YOU. In fact, let me break it down for your brain why whatever you have been typing feels me with rage.

Also, "belittling me makes you feel like an internet tough guy?" Try looking in a mirror.

Let's start on how you snipped my quotes. Was a simple, "snip" good enough for you? No, you have to go and say "defensiveness, poor understanding of business, paranoia" This right here. This is what got me to start responding to you. If you looked at my earlier posts, I've agreed that Bethseda has been heavily involved with consoles so an their opinion is something that is validated by evidence, even if I personally disagree.

It's nothing on your opinion now. If you bothered to read my response, I said that NINTENDO WAS DOING POORLY ON THE WIIU! THAT WASN'T THE BLOODY POINT! I'm not defensive on your opinions on Nintendo. You, are free to like or dislike whatever you choose. My problem with you is how you sneer at anyone who is a fan of things you clearly don't like. And before you accuse me of falsifying information. Let me remind you that your first post on this thread called everyone who was a fan of Nintendo "battered housewives". When you showed that linked, you said that it was the voice of reason. You said that Nintendo fans plugged their ears. This is what drives me up a wall. It has nothing to do with your opinions. It's all about how you presented them.

And in your response, you are showing me the same contempt. Calling anyone who calls you out on your behavior "defensive" and "paranoid." Also, I must ask, is the poor understanding of business on me? Well, then, please explain to me what good business sense is? And no, that's not actually sarcasm, I really want to know! Please explain to me what your idea of good business sense is, because if your answer is that link, then my answer is quite simply, you're wrong. That article does not have good business sense. And no, I'm not saying this because I'm a Nintendo fan, it really isn't that great of a business analysis. Dragonbums pretty much broke down why that article isn't good, but the generally idea is that this person is too caught up in the bubble happening in gaming. If you want a more detailed look on why this article isn't good and refuse to take Dragonbum's opinion seriously. I'll be happy to do so if you ask. I won't do it right now because I need to do something soon. But within the next two hours, I would be happy to show you the flaws in his article. However, if your idea of business is something else. I am still interested in hearing it.

Also, if you think that I can't take criticism, you're only half way right. I can't take idiotic criticism. There are plenty of people with legitamate reasons to dislike Nintendo and their policies. lighttheknight (don't know the exact spelling) is one such person, even if I don't always agree. I do think that Bethseda does have a point. Hell, I actually disagree with many of Nintendo's decisions this and last generation. I think that Nintendo has made some huge blunders, particularly with the WiiU with its lacking game sales.

One more thing, I didn't link that article, you did. That was from your quote. Please, if you're going to insult me, do it right.

 

[stiffy]

ok. snip

I have nothing against you. I swear, i did not come here to troll pokemon/nintendo fans. (tho I see how easy it would be, frankly after all the nonsense in this thread). I didnt try and insult you personally, yet you came at me swinging.....Why, what do you get outta it?

The battered spouse thing is a bit graphic for this pg-13 audience, I admit. I mean no disrespect to survivors of doemstic violence. In all seriousness. No joke.

....To continue with a coarse inappropriate analogy; if nintendo fanboys are abused spouses, Bioware, EA and Xbone fanboys are abused spouses, who called the cops on their asshole abusers, got them arrested, and then went on to lead productive lives, free of the fear of violence by so-called loved ones. Happy Endings, kids! I have a dry sense of humor, for that, i apologize for nothing.

I saw the fuking link on twitter, posted by a guy who knows more about business than you and I combined (Micheal Pachter). I trust his opinion. Definitely more that random angry internet forum goer #654044, thats for damn sure.

I get frustrated not because my feeeels are being huwted, but because 'facts' have been thrown around falsely, faster than fox news....As in 2.996+4.951= 8bn lost by Sony somehow (for example, i dont give a shit enough at this point itemize all the factual fuck-ups. I am not being paid for my time here. (read the article about 8bn loss, if you care, the point was barely comprehended, math/logic errors were made). You wanna know about business, get a fuking cpa, cause looking to a video game forum for business tips is OBVIOUSLY a quixotic endeavor. Fact-based discussion on this thread is like a herpes-free furry convention (non-existent).

Oh sorry if i offend furries with herpes, you can start a thread about me and whinge (look it up) about that later. I cop to it.

Much Love,
stiff

 

[Aeonknight]

As if Bethesda is in a position to talk. Sounds more like flamebait than any sort of respectable analysis. All Nintendo has to do is release that new Xenogears game and I'll go buy a Wii U that day.