Nintendo's Iwata Blames You for the Price of the 3DS

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FungiGamer

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I don't think the problem is really the $300 price tag, I mean the system is more advanced than Nintendo's current home console (sadly) and is arguably as technologically advanced if not better than the Xbox 360 and the PS3 combined; the problem is admitting you based the price on fans positive reactions.

Seriously, what the hell Nintendo? First you're suing your Pokemon fanbase for posting images of the newest game post-release in Japan and now you're admitting you're taking advantage of us? There's only one explanation: Mother fans have finally figured out how to cast a curse on Nintendo that will lead them to make very poor business decisions if they don't release the rest of the Mother franchise worldwide!

Yup, that's what's going on.
 

sdc10

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How about we actually wait for a NA price tag to be announced before getting our panties in a bunch?
 

snave

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Eh, on the off-chance they have to price it high due to extenuating circumstances, it wouldn't half surprise me if they bundled in some free software. The most successful consoles of all time followed that principle, so it'd be good business logic (note that Wii Sports wasn;t actually bundled in Japan, the Japanese typically have the extra disposible income vs. the West and willingness to buy regardless).
 

John Funk

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sdc10 said:
How about we actually wait for a NA price tag to be announced before getting our panties in a bunch?
Of course not, that'd be reasonable ;)
 

Delusibeta

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Korten12 said:
$300 PSPGo - People: this is over-priced!
$300($298) 3DS - People:Alright thats cool. :p

I mean I know technicaly the PSPGo wasn't new tech like the 3DS is, but still.
Here's the problem with that comparison. The PSPgo was basically a PSP that didn't play PSP games, just downloads. The 3DS is a DS that plays DS games... and brand-new, GameCube-standard 3DS games. Plus 3D, which is the icing.

Point is, people didn't want to spend $300 for a crippled version of something they may already own. The 3DS is not a crippled version of the DS, rather it is a better and more powerful format.
 

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John Funk said:
Just remember, the next time somebody reveals cool new technology, act disappointed.
No problem there. I was already disappointed when Nintendo announced this thing in the first place.

This is their fifth portable in five plus years. Why? What purpose does it serve beside promoting a technology that most people do not want right now?

If they want to blame anyone, it's their own pricing and marketing department for thinking something like this would be cheap, or desired this soon.
 

JerrytheBullfrog

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AgentBJ09 said:
John Funk said:
Just remember, the next time somebody reveals cool new technology, act disappointed.
No problem there. I was already disappointed when Nintendo announced this thing in the first place.

This is their fifth portable in five plus years. Why? What purpose does it serve beside promoting a technology that most people do not want right now?

If they want to blame anyone, it's their own pricing and marketing department for thinking something like this would be cheap, or desired this soon.
Since I'm playing Nintendo Devil's Advocate for the moment:

This isn't a new iteration of the DS, it's a new console. This isn't like the GBA to the GBA SP, it's the GBA SP to the DS. It's beefier and more powerful.

And obviously, judging from the response among fans and media, people do want 3D, they just don't want the hassle of the glasses. The 3DS is one of the most anticipated things I've seen in gaming in a while, and there's almost no way it won't be the most successful platform of the next generation.

There is demand there, even if you don't personally share it. And what happens when demand outpaces supply in economics?
 

Delusibeta

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As anyone who's been in a cinema recently, there is a demand for 3D stuff, and Nintendo is supplying. And frankly, the people who think 3D is a gimmick is probably in the minority.
 
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AzrealMaximillion said:
Korten12 said:
$300 PSPGo - People: this is over-priced!
$300($298) 3DS - People:Alright thats cool. :p

I mean I know technicaly the PSPGo wasn't new tech like the 3DS is, but still.
I know right? Especially since we, the consumer don't even know what the 3D effect looks like yet.


Double Standards for the win!!!!
The PSPGo removed basic functionality from the system and sold it for more, plus the game library isn't nearly as appealing as what Nintendo offers. It's an entirely different situation.

In a capitalistic society things are worth whatever people are willing to pay. I'd never buy a PSPGo but I think the 3DS will be worth it.

I'm not that big on console gaming these days; portable gaming is really the last bastion for someone like me because that's where a lot of the innovation and quirky ideas end up. The PS3/360 don't have a lot to offer to anyone who doesn't think games like Modern Warfare and Gears of War are the shit. (I remember when I got excited about Uncharted 2, then when I sat down to play it I said to my friend, "not another fucking shooter.")

Even with this much power behind it it shouldn't fall into the same trap as the big-boy console libraries. The mere presence of Nintendo ensures there'll be something I'll enjoy. That's worth more than a PS3 to me.
 

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Asuka Soryu said:
Pandora92 said:
I'll remember that next time sorry. ;)

I'm extremely interested in the 3DS but unlike with the DS (which was obviously a lot cheaper) I'm not gonna jump in and by one right away on launch day, I plan on waiting for a while and seeing if it drops in price and if we start getting any deals on it later.

(Also if they're going to start releasing new editions of it every 6 months and screwing over anyone who purchased the original. -.-)
Outside of the DS lite, the 'upgrades' to the DS weren't neccesary. Well, the built in Internet Browser.

But the Camera and then a larger size...
Well you could technically argue that none of them were necessary, which was sort of my point, I purchased the original DS straight away and it still works fine today and I have no real reason to pay for a newer model, but you can't help feel a bit cheesed off when 6 months after buying something the company that makes it comes out saying "THIS IS THE SAME THING ONLY A LOT LIGHTER, SMALLER, AND WITH A MUCH BRIGHTER SCREEN!" (what the original Lite changed), I felt almost like an Apple fan must. :|
 

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2xDouble said:
Almost $300? F that. I never pay more than $120 for any handheld.
What mysterious handhelds are you purchasing that only cost 120 dollars? And what year are you living in? Are you posting that from the past?

Has anyone noticed how eerily similar people are reacting to this in the same way as the PS3's original pricepoint?

And what did the DSi cost again? 250 without the trade in deal? Or am I wrong?

Also what's with all the hypocrites here? "I won't buy a handheld that costs as much as a console"? If you bought a DS when it first came out, a DSi when it first came out, or a PSP when it first came out, YOU BOUGHT A HANDHELD THAT COST AS MUCH AS A CONSOLE.


I bought my PSP for 200$ as a bundle pack.

My DS lite was a Christmas gift.
My DS costed 100$
 
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JerrytheBullfrog said:
AgentBJ09 said:
John Funk said:
Just remember, the next time somebody reveals cool new technology, act disappointed.
No problem there. I was already disappointed when Nintendo announced this thing in the first place.

This is their fifth portable in five plus years. Why? What purpose does it serve beside promoting a technology that most people do not want right now?

If they want to blame anyone, it's their own pricing and marketing department for thinking something like this would be cheap, or desired this soon.
Since I'm playing Nintendo Devil's Advocate for the moment:

This isn't a new iteration of the DS, it's a new console. This isn't like the GBA to the GBA SP, it's the GBA SP to the DS. It's beefier and more powerful.

And obviously, judging from the response among fans and media, people do want 3D, they just don't want the hassle of the glasses. The 3DS is one of the most anticipated things I've seen in gaming in a while, and there's almost no way it won't be the most successful platform of the next generation.

There is demand there, even if you don't personally share it. And what happens when demand outpaces supply in economics?
But is it a demand for 3D or for the games? Personally I don't care about the 3D at all. If there wasn't a slider to turn it off I wouldn't buy the system no matter how enticing the games are. I'm not completely and totally anti-3D, but I think it's a gimmick and if it doesn't add anything to the experience I'll go without.

I will say I'm much more supportive of adding 3D like this than I am with companies like Sony who are trying to push expensive new tech on consumers in the form of 3D television. If it came as a standard feature in HDTVs and didn't require glasses, okay. As long as I can turn it on and off I don't care. I will never pay a thousand dollars extra for 3D and I'm not wearing glasses for it. Hell, I'm not even sold on HD; my next TV will be HD because it's the thing to do and not because I think it's worth the upgrade. With them as cheap as they are I've got no reason not to.

When it comes to 3D in theaters, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the "demand" isn't so much a desire for 3D films on the part of the public as it is people are willing to tolerate it. It's been pushed on us so hard that it's difficult (from where I'm sitting) to gauge the demand. Like with Toy Story 3-I would have watched it without 3D if I had the option but I wanted to see the movie bad enough that I bought a ticket anyway.
 

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Pandora92 said:
Asuka Soryu said:
Pandora92 said:
I'll remember that next time sorry. ;)

I'm extremely interested in the 3DS but unlike with the DS (which was obviously a lot cheaper) I'm not gonna jump in and by one right away on launch day, I plan on waiting for a while and seeing if it drops in price and if we start getting any deals on it later.

(Also if they're going to start releasing new editions of it every 6 months and screwing over anyone who purchased the original. -.-)
Outside of the DS lite, the 'upgrades' to the DS weren't neccesary. Well, the built in Internet Browser.

But the Camera and then a larger size...
Well you could technically argue that none of them were necessary, which was sort of my point, I purchased the original DS straight away and it still works fine today and I have no real reason to pay for a newer model, but you can't help feel a bit cheesed off when 6 months after buying something the company that makes it comes out saying "THIS IS THE SAME THING ONLY A LOT LIGHTER, SMALLER, AND WITH A MUCH BRIGHTER SCREEN!" (what the original Lite changed), I felt almost like an Apple fan must. :|

Well I feel the DS Lite was an improvement. My DS lite has a way powerful light.
Is "lite" and has a longer battery life then my Fat DS.

And trust me when I say that fat DS burns through life when I play Poke'mon/Mario at night.

I think the DS Lite was the only change to the DS that was needed/not just another attempt to gouge your wallet.
 

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JerrytheBullfrog said:
There is demand there, even if you don't personally share it. And what happens when demand outpaces supply in economics?
fffffFFFFFFFUUUUU- Thanks a lot Jerry for reminding me I'm suppose to be studying Macroeconomics instead of posting on forums.... Let's see, when quantity demanded exceeds quantity supplied it results in a shortage and.... aw, screw it
 

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shadyh8er said:
John Funk said:
Just remember, the next time somebody reveals cool new technology, act disappointed.
Duly noted.
Well, obviously they didnt notice me and my "who gives a shit? Its another fucking gameboy from Nintendo..." attitude. Just think, had more people thought that, they would have dropped the price...
 

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So in other words, Nintendo has such a strong fanboy base, they can get away with anal rape. OK, got it.

I'll just do what I always do with Nintendo handhelds. Wait a year for the "new and improved" model to be released (Nintendo always pulls this crap), and buy the old model.
 

Asuka Soryu

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mogamer said:
So in other words, Nintendo has such a strong fanboy base, they can get away with anal rape. OK, got it.

I'll just do what I always do with Nintendo handhelds. Wait a year for the "new and improved" model to be released (Nintendo always pulls this crap), and buy the old model.
Looks like I'll be joining you.
 

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Well, i find that agreeable.

When the original PsP came out, it was some $500 in australia.
I got it for just under $400 in the end.

$300 for a 3DS? Sure, why not?
And i got my GBDS lite for some $250 Duty free, (at an airport) in Singapore.
 

Asuka Soryu

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Well, atleast this should decrease the price of DSi's. I kinda wanted one, for the gimmicy camera. Just wasn't willing to pay 170$ for a junk camera.