They didn't have toilets in those times that Skyrim is based on, and they don't in Skyrim either. Pretty much every bedroom I've been in has had a chamber pot or some kind of bucket which is exactly what you'd expect from a "medieval-esque" setting. So, yes, they do have toilets.
In prisons, they even have grates that lead right to the sewers. Guess where that prisoner goes.
The Dwemer created the automatons through part engineering and part magic. They appear to be powered by soul gems, that's what gives them life. Now, a toilet doesn't need life, it just needs complicated machinations, which the Dwemer may have been capable of. But why would they think of it?
Hey, they can just dig wholes for waste disposal. The pipes are a good point, but I still say they wouldn't really think of it. It's such a foreign idea when you think about it. Oh, at least some of the pipes are actually for steam, most of their tech is steam powered. And even if the Dwemer did create toilets, the other races wouldn't have them anyway. They can't replicate Dwemer tech, they're all retards.
EDIT: Oh, just noticed. In the Elder Scrolls universe, the Dwemer are the Dwarves. In case you were unaware, your second sentence seemed to indicate you think they're separate. Unless you were referring to the archetypical dwarves.
It is disputable whether they "are" the Dwarves, orDwarves to beign with. I've read somewhere that they were named "dwemer" (for "short") by the Giants in the old days, which means they were of human height, hence not "dwarfs". But the name stuck. What they can do however is be excellent with machines and automatons. Anyhow, it doesn't make much difference if the pipes were for steam, air conditioning or water etc., my point was that if they COULD create a network of pipes perforating mountains of solid rock, and all of that only in order to move some machinery around, wouldn't they be (way) more than able to have a plumbing system?
As for magic and alchemy, well, one can easily imagine an ingredient being poured over the excrement which would vaporize the excrement completely, or make it otherwise useful (i.e. for the farm). There are many options but none is obvious of these... There are buckets and sewage systems hinting to possible practices, but nothing certain... Also: no showers and no bathtubs. Would everyone just bathe in the rivers and lakes in the freezing lands of Skyrim? Probably not... Maybe they have bath in barrels.
It is specifically said in a few books that the Dwarves are the Dwemer. Throughout Skyrim and Morrowind. Are you sure you have that origin right though? The Dwemer were elves, just another race of mer, like Bosmer, Altmer, Falmer etc. Roughly translated, deep elves. Of course, the book you read could be wrong. There are red herring books occasionally. Found one book claiming Akatosh and Alduin were one and the same. Or it could have been the origin of the term dwarves.
Yeah, they probably could have created toilets. My point is it is actually reasonable that they wouldn't have thought too. Especially, as you said, with the alternatives provided by magic. In fact, feasibly you may not need a water source. Just have a few mages who get paid to cast ice spike and melt it for half the day. As for bathing in freezing weather, Nords are tough. Everyone knows that. Maybe some lucky few bathe with mages, heat the water or something.
The Dwemer created the automatons through part engineering and part magic. They appear to be powered by soul gems, that's what gives them life. Now, a toilet doesn't need life, it just needs complicated machinations, which the Dwemer may have been capable of. But why would they think of it?
Hey, they can just dig wholes for waste disposal. The pipes are a good point, but I still say they wouldn't really think of it. It's such a foreign idea when you think about it. Oh, at least some of the pipes are actually for steam, most of their tech is steam powered. And even if the Dwemer did create toilets, the other races wouldn't have them anyway. They can't replicate Dwemer tech, they're all retards.
EDIT: Oh, just noticed. In the Elder Scrolls universe, the Dwemer are the Dwarves. In case you were unaware, your second sentence seemed to indicate you think they're separate. Unless you were referring to the archetypical dwarves.
It is disputable whether they "are" the Dwarves, orDwarves to beign with. I've read somewhere that they were named "dwemer" (for "short") by the Giants in the old days, which means they were of human height, hence not "dwarfs". But the name stuck. What they can do however is be excellent with machines and automatons. Anyhow, it doesn't make much difference if the pipes were for steam, air conditioning or water etc., my point was that if they COULD create a network of pipes perforating mountains of solid rock, and all of that only in order to move some machinery around, wouldn't they be (way) more than able to have a plumbing system?
As for magic and alchemy, well, one can easily imagine an ingredient being poured over the excrement which would vaporize the excrement completely, or make it otherwise useful (i.e. for the farm). There are many options but none is obvious of these... There are buckets and sewage systems hinting to possible practices, but nothing certain... Also: no showers and no bathtubs. Would everyone just bathe in the rivers and lakes in the freezing lands of Skyrim? Probably not... Maybe they have bath in barrels.
It is specifically said in a few books that the Dwarves are the Dwemer. Throughout Skyrim and Morrowind. Are you sure you have that origin right though? The Dwemer were elves, just another race of mer, like Bosmer, Altmer, Falmer etc. Roughly translated, deep elves. Of course, the book you read could be wrong. There are red herring books occasionally. Found one book claiming Akatosh and Alduin were one and the same. Or it could have been the origin of the term dwarves.
Yeah, they probably could have created toilets. My point is it is actually reasonable that they wouldn't have thought too. Especially, as you said, with the alternatives provided by magic. In fact, feasibly you may not need a water source. Just have a few mages who get paid to cast ice spike and melt it for half the day. As for bathing in freezing weather, Nords are tough. Everyone knows that. Maybe some lucky few bathe with mages, heat the water or something.
Yeah, "deep elves", but it also says: "The Dwemer are often referred to as "Dwarves" in western cultures, although they were no shorter than a human and the name seems to have been derived from a supposed encounter with giants who saw the Dwemer as short." Source here: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dwemer
Also more here: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lorewemer
So not classically dwarfs, but perhaps a convenient substitute for them.
I love all these people replying "There weren't any bathrooms back in medieval times! DUH!"
Yes, back in the real period of history where people shot ice out of their hands and dragons stomped around and trolls terrorized villages, there were no toilets. We know this from reading history books!
No bathrooms in games? You clearly haven't played The Sims.
Or maybe you have and decided not to make a bathroom for your Sims because you're a cruel and horrible person. If that's the case, look for puddles of blue liquid in Skyrim.
Those sewers and drains everyone talks about... those are storm drains to carry rain water out of the city. in castles they actualy did have toilets in a sense but it was nothing more than a shaft leading to the storm drains with something to sit on. No rain and a mound of turds under the shaft plus the stench rising up the hole so many of the fanciests castles didnt have them in the living areas of the owners. at best in the servants area and guard or on an outer wall draining right into the moat. stinks less having a servant take out the chamber pot and dump it down there drain. swimming the moat to invade the castle was swimming in the sewer water, and part of the reason moats were so effective. but in houses and such there was the chamber pot.
But Op is wrong there was a set of toilets in one of the old castles and in everyone of them there was the good ole bucket. just none in the main city castles. maybe a mod to fix that.
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In very rich manors and castles they did have a toilet of sorts usualy in the owners/kings chamber... well it was a chair with a chamber pot inside of it with the same type of lids we use today. one solid lid on top to keep the stink inside and one with a hole leading to the pot. the richer the owner the more elaborate the chair was decorated. the chair was essentialy a box with a back and armrests and the seats.
The Bathroom isn't a useful room in a game. Virtual people don't need them meaning that making bathrooms just means making more assets for a room that probably won't have anything in it besides poop jokes. A bathroom has extremely specific looking items so you can't just stuff it with generic boxes and shelves, you have to go through and make assets for it and that's something that you don't do if you can get away with it, and most of the time people don't notice, so developers don't bother. What's odd is the high number of sewer levels due to there simplicity of production and use as padding and lack of any other plumbing in games.
God, how could we have a thread about bathrooms in-game and nobody has mentioned the Metal Gear Solid series? In all of the main series games they had Johnny the Guy With Stomach Issues, I believe most of them have had Snake/Raiden being pissed on at one point or another while sneaking in a cut-scene, and there's bathrooms in all four of the main series games at the very least (not sure about the PSP games). In Metal Gear Solid 2, you can aim at a urinal in First-Person mode and call The Colonel on the Codec to get a unique conversation about Raiden's girlfriend Rose giving him some privacy until he finishes.
I love all these people replying "There weren't any bathrooms back in medieval times! DUH!"
Yes, back in the real period of history where people shot ice out of their hands and dragons stomped around and trolls terrorized villages, there were no toilets. We know this from reading history books!
The word in question is "Verisimilitude". Throwing incongruous elements to a setting that isn't completely realistic still damages the sense of reality that setting has.
Realistically, there probably weren't any bathroom you had to go, you used a bucket. I visited a castle in Europe (a historically more recent castle) only couple hundred years old, and the bathroom consisted of a little room with a plank that had a hole in it that was over the moat.
The Dwemer created the automatons through part engineering and part magic. They appear to be powered by soul gems, that's what gives them life. Now, a toilet doesn't need life, it just needs complicated machinations, which the Dwemer may have been capable of. But why would they think of it?
Hey, they can just dig wholes for waste disposal. The pipes are a good point, but I still say they wouldn't really think of it. It's such a foreign idea when you think about it. Oh, at least some of the pipes are actually for steam, most of their tech is steam powered. And even if the Dwemer did create toilets, the other races wouldn't have them anyway. They can't replicate Dwemer tech, they're all retards.
EDIT: Oh, just noticed. In the Elder Scrolls universe, the Dwemer are the Dwarves. In case you were unaware, your second sentence seemed to indicate you think they're separate. Unless you were referring to the archetypical dwarves.
It is disputable whether they "are" the Dwarves, orDwarves to beign with. I've read somewhere that they were named "dwemer" (for "short") by the Giants in the old days, which means they were of human height, hence not "dwarfs". But the name stuck. What they can do however is be excellent with machines and automatons. Anyhow, it doesn't make much difference if the pipes were for steam, air conditioning or water etc., my point was that if they COULD create a network of pipes perforating mountains of solid rock, and all of that only in order to move some machinery around, wouldn't they be (way) more than able to have a plumbing system?
As for magic and alchemy, well, one can easily imagine an ingredient being poured over the excrement which would vaporize the excrement completely, or make it otherwise useful (i.e. for the farm). There are many options but none is obvious of these... There are buckets and sewage systems hinting to possible practices, but nothing certain... Also: no showers and no bathtubs. Would everyone just bathe in the rivers and lakes in the freezing lands of Skyrim? Probably not... Maybe they have bath in barrels.
It is specifically said in a few books that the Dwarves are the Dwemer. Throughout Skyrim and Morrowind. Are you sure you have that origin right though? The Dwemer were elves, just another race of mer, like Bosmer, Altmer, Falmer etc. Roughly translated, deep elves. Of course, the book you read could be wrong. There are red herring books occasionally. Found one book claiming Akatosh and Alduin were one and the same. Or it could have been the origin of the term dwarves.
Yeah, they probably could have created toilets. My point is it is actually reasonable that they wouldn't have thought too. Especially, as you said, with the alternatives provided by magic. In fact, feasibly you may not need a water source. Just have a few mages who get paid to cast ice spike and melt it for half the day. As for bathing in freezing weather, Nords are tough. Everyone knows that. Maybe some lucky few bathe with mages, heat the water or something.
Yeah, "deep elves", but it also says: "The Dwemer are often referred to as "Dwarves" in western cultures, although they were no shorter than a human and the name seems to have been derived from a supposed encounter with giants who saw the Dwemer as short." Source here: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Dwemer
Also more here: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lorewemer
So not classically dwarfs, but perhaps a convenient substitute for them.
I love all these people replying "There weren't any bathrooms back in medieval times! DUH!"
Yes, back in the real period of history where people shot ice out of their hands and dragons stomped around and trolls terrorized villages, there were no toilets. We know this from reading history books!
The word in question is "Verisimilitude". Throwing incongruous elements to a setting that isn't completely realistic still damages the sense of reality that setting has.
I mean, if I'm walking from Malkath to Whiterun and there's nothing happening, I just hop off the path a bit and pop a squat/drain the snake. I'm certainly not going to try and hold it until I get there. That'd be silly.
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