No Hope for Valve To Make Future Games Anytime Soon

[rodneyy]

i think the thing with people saing valve never release games anymore is the confusion over what valve is. they are not a publisher they are a developer who just happens to have an online distribution arm.

so people see EA releasing many games a year and equates them as a similar thing so expect similar output.
in reality they are more like DICE who seem to do about 1 main game every 2 years and then many expansion packs.

either that or they are saying valve never release any games I am interested in so that equates to no games at all.

 

[Jimmy T. Malice]

- Portal 2 has had a major plot hook in the co-op campaign. Basically there's a whole bunch of test subjects available now, so Chell's escape doesn't really matter. It was never really about her, she was just a player stand-in for some random person fighting Glados and uncovering Aperture's secrets - those were the things that gave Portal character. As long as Valve still has ideas for what might be going on behind Aperture or how it could be changing right now (instead of just returning to status quo like with the ending of Portal 2), there's plenty of room for sequels.

In the Peer Review DLC, Glados says that

Spoiler

she used up all of the test subjects from the vault in just a few days. They're all dead, so she had to go back to the robots.

 

[Easton Dark]

I'd be fine with them not releasing anything ever again. They lost me as a fan after Left 4 Dead 2 (Piece of shit).

But they will. I'd actually bet Portal 3 will see a release date soon, and before Half-Life 3 even starts getting developed. They said they only make games that they feel interested in, and being honest, designing puzzles is probably more interesting than a corridor with people to shoot.

 

[Vivi22]

I guess that's all I really have to say to that. Valve is a business more than a developer now a days, running Steam and all that. It doesn't really bother me though. At least they are still alive and kicking with a lot of goodwill, and not some horrible husk of what it used to be.

Yeah, the company that's been putting out a minimum of a game a year for almost a decade is just not going to make any games any more. Makes perfect sense to me.

 

[KungFuJazzHands]

I couldn't care less about Valve's games. DOTA 2's and L4D's communities are both acidic enough as to turn me away completely, Portal is a series that has never interested me, and I stopped caring about Half-Life's progression as a viable IP years ago. TF2 is, well, TF2.

What I'm concerned with nowadays is Valve's obsession with turning Steam into a community-centric fluff zone. Poorly-conceived sales gimmicks, cross-marketing saturation, superficial client updates that add nothing of substance, contemporary games that rely more on paid cosmetic items than actual gameplay, and a worrying disregard for their customer base that consists of draconian policies like 3rd party DRM and progressively anti-consumer EULAs. Valve are so concerned with profit-driven projects like hats and trading cards that they've completely lost site of what it means to be a video game company.

I wish they'd go back to just making video games, but at this point that's never going to happen.

 

[shadowuser10141]

Dota 2 is releasing this summer.
http://www.valvetime.net/threads/updated-valve-is-planning-to-release-dota-2-this-summer.243565/

I honestly don't know where this "Valve doesn't make games" myth comes from.

It's a sequel to a mod built by other people with the entirety of development being transferring the exact same aesthetics and heroes as the original to the Source engine. Hell they even picked up the Warcraft 3 composer to do the score on this. This is creating a new game in the same way that tracing a picture counts as drawing one.

Valve cliché #853: Valve only uses other people's mods.

Dota 2 is being made from the ground up as a standalone game not a WC3 map.
There have been multiple versions of WC3 DotA over the years with hundreds of different people working on them. So it's not as easy as copy-and-paste.
Trying to balance a multiplayer game that has multiple classes with unique abilities (over 100 in Dota 2's case) is a tall order. TF2 took 8 years but it paid off for Valve.

Face it, Dota 2 will make a hell of a lot more money that Half-Life 3 ever will.

 

[Pink Gregory]

There's still a lot of mileage out of user-created content in the games they have.

 

[Diablo1099_v1legacy]

I say it's less of a fact that Valve isn't making new games but rather they are supporting their current ones, CS:GO, TF2, L4D, DOTA.
On top of that, user made content ensures that their games will be played for years to come.

Besides, I'd rather 1 quality game every few years rather than a crap ton of yearly releases that are basically the same game with better graphics.
Assassin's Creed Revelations comes to mind.

 

[saintdane05]

E3 has both PS4 and Xbox One.
Since Xbone is a bad thing it is negative.
4-1
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Half Life 3 confirmed.

 

[gigastar]

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Well... youre wrong.

Nothings bad about what you wrote in your OP, just that you seem to be completely unaware that Valve is currently working on their next generation game engine, which is due next year along with the obligatory tech demo game.

 

[Dragonbums]

Fine by me, given Valve's current direction I'm willing to bet by this point any new games they made would just be a Micro-transaction Store with no actual game attached

Im sorry but are you trying to claim dota2 and tf2 either require you to spend a penny to get the full experience or are bad games? the last time i bought a valve game was 2009 , left for dead 2 and thats still getting FREE content. is there a game thats got half the free content LFD2 has? because i cant think of one.

Please stop. Don't bring sense into these threads. Don't you know Valve are the Devil? Now lets go on complaining about a series and then talk about how much we don't care about it because God forbid we lose our edge.

I don't recall anyone in this thread shouting anger and hate at Valve or calling them the devil. In fact, I would say a lot of people in this thread are perfectly calm about this situation.

 

[Dragonbums]

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Well... youre wrong.

Nothings bad about what you wrote in your OP, just that you seem to be completely unaware that Valve is currently working on their next generation game engine, which is due next year along with the obligatory tech demo game.

Well yes, one would make a tech demo to demonstrate a new game engine. That doesn't mean they are going to make a new IP in the near future.

 

[Reeve]

The fact that they reportedly don't have any deadlines is a bad thing. It means they can procrastinate for as long as they want on it. Sometimes working under some pressure is more productive and fruitful.

 

[The White Hunter]

With regards to portal, a story ending has never been enough to stop someone from making a new game in the same IP. Who says it has to be based around chell? Who says it has to be set in the same universe at all? In all likelihood all that will be carried over is a portion of the gameplay, should another portal game be made.
And besides, you're ignoring the possibility of a new IP altogether. No reason why Valve couldn't make something new.

Your right on that. They can make new IP, and DOTA as someone said above is their newest IP(?)

However to me it's like expecting Nintendo to make a shooter, or the folks behind CoD to make a platformer game. I'm not saying they can't pull it off, (they made Portal for blasted sakes) but they were the early studios that really gave the shooter genre a head start. Chances are, a lot of new ideas they have revolve around the shooter aspect which at the current moment is over bloated.

Well Nintendo did put out the Prime series though it was developed in house... -checks facts- nope, partially developed in house and retro is a subsidiary.

So yeah. Nintendo has developed and put out a solid shooter trilogy.

They also make platformers, adventure games, all kinds of RPG, Nintendo does some odd stuff, it just happens that their staple games are platformers, racers and brawlers.

Kinda wanna see Nintendo buy up Mega Man and make that X reboot happen since Capcom is content to let Mega Man rot...

 

[Requia]

Valve has released a game *every single year*. They aren't putting out 5 expansion packs anymore to go with them (which was mostly driven by remakes of old games with a new engine), but you still have to go all the way back to 2002 to find a year they didn't release anything. Stop with the valve isn't a game company anymore hysteria until they actually stop releasing games.

How odd, then, that their "own thing" was pretty much the same as everyone else's.

This is nonsense. I mean this literally, the words you say may absolutely no sense in the context of response to my post, or in the context of Valve in general.

 

[Spitfire]

I can't say that I agree. Both Half-Life games came out at a time when the market was overcrowded with FPS games, and on both occasions, Half-Life managed to stand out. While being really polished, and really well designed, the first game in the series primarily stood out because of its use of narrative, while the second one did so because of its technological advancements; how is the third game going to stand out? I think Valve are struggling to figure that out, and if their history is anything to go by, I don't think it's the state of the market that's keeping them from releasing Half-Life 3.

 

[bafrali]

Fine by me, given Valve's current direction I'm willing to bet by this point any new games they made would just be a Micro-transaction Store with no actual game attached

Im sorry but are you trying to claim dota2 and tf2 either require you to spend a penny to get the full experience or are bad games? the last time i bought a valve game was 2009 , left for dead 2 and thats still getting FREE content. is there a game thats got half the free content LFD2 has? because i cant think of one.

Please stop. Don't bring sense into these threads. Don't you know Valve are the Devil? Now lets go on complaining about a series and then talk about how much we don't care about it because God forbid we lose our edge.

I don't recall anyone in this thread shouting anger and hate at Valve or calling them the devil. In fact, I would say a lot of people in this thread are perfectly calm about this situation.

Well first of all it was a joke. Second of all this topic has been done to death and has been proven wrong several times. Third of all, just because Valve's line up does't go along with your tastes, that doesn't mean they have stopped being a developer. You can always look forward other games with actual release dates. Standing around whining about a independant developer that are known for their erratic schedules (for good reason) won't accomplish anything. As I said in my first post, this thread is utterly pointless. It is like complaining about yearly Call of Duty releases when you don't care about the franchise. Who the hell cares?

 

[Xman490]

E3 has both PS4 and Xbox One.
Since Xbone is a bad thing it is negative.
4-1
3
Half Life 3 confirmed.

Conspiracies aside...
I'm really disappointed in Valve. They missed a prime opportunity for giving us at least some semblance of hope for games with story besides "Side A versus Side B" in E3. God dammit, they could have said anything directing attention to "Source 2" or whatever, and people would be all over it! Instead, we're whining about supposed "rape jokes" and proclaiming "PS4 shot Xbone. Call an ambulance! WIIU WIIU WIIU."