No internet and porn for 90 days

[Guffe]

Interesting, althou are you sure it's legal to do tests like these on humans?
I wish you good luck and I will certainly come and check on your progress.
The porn thing is no prob for me since I watch very very seldom at pornographic stuff (movies, papers) and I know I wouldn't die from 1hour browsing time either.
GL & HF

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

I'm not sure you realize how long 90 days is...

 

[Aprilgold]

snip

So let's get this straight here. Gambling isn't an addiction? That's what you're saying? It's a compulsion? Let's just clear that right up. I'm not saying it isn't. It could just be a purely pathological disorder. That's fine. The issue I'm having is with

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20050413/gambling-addiction-resembles-brain-problem

Oh look, web MD used the term gambling addiction. Those idiots must know nothing about medical health. How could they use such improper terminology. This must discredit all of the research they've done up to this point. Gambling compulsion. Put that on a tier down.

Seriously, your entire rant is basically semantics. The negative effects of pornography, internet, gaming and gambling "addictions" are all well documented. What's more, going without them can get people on edge, though you're right. It's not the same as actually having a physiological dependency on a certain substance. However, I used to be a smoker and drinker. I quit. It was HARD and yes I went through the typical withdrawals. The idea of quitting porn and the internet, honestly, seems like an equally difficult prospect right now, so the idea of doing seems comparable in my mind. You could have just as easily summed up that whole rant is "it's a compulsion, not an addiction". It's still hard to quit and the "compulsion" as it were, still can have very severe negative effects on a person. Tangible, neurological effects that effectively change the brains production of chemicals and activity. In that regard, it's just as serious as anything.

Once again, looking at Webmd.com is that it isn't very specialized and I honestly think that you could find better sources through something that wasn't commonly available knowledge that can be found on hundreds of others, and the fact that you couldn't be assed to find more sources that proved that pornography, internet and gaming caused addictions is also troubling.

Addiction defintion, by webster.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/addiction
And compulsion definition.
http://www.bing.com/Dictionary/search?q=define+compulsion&qpvt=compulsion+definition&FORM=DTPDIA

Addiction leads to withdrawal, and as far as I'm concerned, Internet or gaming addiction is non-existant until you give me a source that proves me wrong otherwise. Your mind is compelled to continue reading because your invested into the characters, if you stop reading you will not go into a deep depression because you didn't keep reading.

Why I'm comparing a book to the internet, because the internet is more about reading, hearing or seeing different things unfold or to learn things. I don't have a addiction to youtube, but on a day with nothing better to do, why not look at it.

Honestly, I fell for the trap of trying to tackle you for something that I know little about, but also its kinda your fault for not keeping your burden-of-proof and finding a source that actually proves me wrong.

My point is that Compulsion is 100% different from Addiction on the pure basis that stopping yourself from being compelled by something will not harm you physically or mentally until you do said thing again. Addiction will lead to Withdraws if your needs are not met, and as such can cause your personality to change along with your actual body feeling.

PS: Yes, I changed my whole post because you kept adding to your first one, so I couldn't notice that you did so until checking my post and finding out that you completely changed stances in a few minutes.

 

[axlryder]

So let's get this straight here. Gambling isn't an addiction? That's what you're saying? It's a compulsion?

Compulsion is handled differently by different people. After looking back on said post, I left a few things out like how Compulsion can get worse depending on person-to-person. Next time, don't bring up something that is not what I was saying. Were sticking strictly to the fact that you can not get addicted to the interenet or games, simply on the basis that you can not form a physical need for them.

Its impossible to get addicted to the internet, because it doesn't create a physical need or want to hop on. You won't experience a withdrawal that someone who takes heroine might if they stop taking the drug.

Once again, your using metaphors to compare things that are completely different. While everyone takes compulsion or addiction differently, it does not mean that I will experience a withdrawal if I don't read a book for a month.

You have a want to gamble, and while it may be a extreme want, you do not need to gamble to physically stay fit and healthy. If you smoke and then stop, you will experience difficulties staying fit and will still have the high want to smoke.

Compulsion is different on the simple basis that you can still stay physically fit and won't experience extreme physical or mental issues if you do not read / do / look at X thing, while if you take some type of drug, including Nicotine and Alcohol, then you will experience a withdrawal if you are not taking enough of the substance.

Once again, comparing a smoking addiction to internet compulsion is like killing murder to a man killing another man in the defense of others. While both have similair outcome such as someone dead, it was done for different reasons, and one is morally 'right' and one is morally 'wrong.'

PS. Don't change the subject in order to escape the fact that, you, sir or madam, listed a non-professional or trust worthy source or do not understand the difference between a addiction, withdrawal and a compulsion and the fact that a compulsion is a want not a need.

That's fine. The issue I'm having is with

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20050413/gambling-addiction-resembles-brain-problem

Oh look, web MD used the term gambling addiction. Those idiots must know nothing about medical health. How could they use such improper terminology. This must discredit all of the research they've posted up to this point. Gambling compulsion. Put that on a tier down.

Seriously, your entire rant, well it's not semantics, but it's kind of overwrought. The negative effects of pornography, internet, gaming and gambling "addictions" are all documented. What's more, going without them can get people on edge. Though you're right, it's not the same as actually having a physiological dependency on a certain substance. However, I used to be a smoker and drinker. I quit. It was HARD and yes I went through the typical withdrawals. The idea of quitting porn and the internet, honestly, seems like an equally difficult prospect right now, so the idea of doing seems comparable in my mind. You could have just as easily summed up that whole rant as "it's a compulsion, not an addiction + a few sentences about potential health effects of addiction and withdrawal". It's still hard to quit and the "compulsion" as it were, still can have very severe negative effects on a person. Tangible, neurological effects that effectively change the brains production of chemicals and activity. In that regard, it's still very serious. In a colloquial sense, it's still an addiction. You're right, it doesn't have the detrimental health effects or deadly withdrawals that those other things have, but I don't think anyone really thought that. Of course, my example about smoking to the other guy is still apt, because in that context not smoking and not watching porn are both hard. yes, I won't get jittery and have headaches if I don't watch porn, but I'm still going to crave it.

 

[Danzavare]

I can manage without the pornography, but I'd flunk out of university without internet access. All assignments, updates and homework are given to us online. It initially annoyed me to have to manage most my university work through the internet, but I've gotten used to it.

Edit: As for advice, I'd suggest taking up a non-computer related hobby you can really get into. Even after your attempt, switching permanently to a more moderate use of the internet sounds healthy.

 

[axlryder]

snip

So let's get this straight here. Gambling isn't an addiction? That's what you're saying? It's a compulsion? Let's just clear that right up. I'm not saying it isn't. It could just be a purely pathological disorder. That's fine. The issue I'm having is with

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20050413/gambling-addiction-resembles-brain-problem

Oh look, web MD used the term gambling addiction. Those idiots must know nothing about medical health. How could they use such improper terminology. This must discredit all of the research they've done up to this point. Gambling compulsion. Put that on a tier down.

Seriously, your entire rant is basically semantics. The negative effects of pornography, internet, gaming and gambling "addictions" are all well documented. What's more, going without them can get people on edge, though you're right. It's not the same as actually having a physiological dependency on a certain substance. However, I used to be a smoker and drinker. I quit. It was HARD and yes I went through the typical withdrawals. The idea of quitting porn and the internet, honestly, seems like an equally difficult prospect right now, so the idea of doing seems comparable in my mind. You could have just as easily summed up that whole rant is "it's a compulsion, not an addiction". It's still hard to quit and the "compulsion" as it were, still can have very severe negative effects on a person. Tangible, neurological effects that effectively change the brains production of chemicals and activity. In that regard, it's just as serious as anything.

Once again, looking at Webmd.com is that it isn't very specialized and I honestly think that you could find better sources through something that wasn't commonly available knowledge that can be found on hundreds of others, and the fact that you couldn't be assed to find more sources that proved that pornography, internet and gaming caused addictions is also troubling.

Addiction defintion, by webster.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/addiction
And compulsion definition.
http://www.bing.com/Dictionary/search?q=define+compulsion&qpvt=compulsion+definition&FORM=DTPDIA

Addiction leads to withdrawal, and as far as I'm concerned, Internet or gaming addiction is non-existant until you give me a source that proves me wrong otherwise. Your mind is compelled to continue reading because your invested into the characters, if you stop reading you will not go into a deep depression because you didn't keep reading.

Why I'm comparing a book to the internet, because the internet is more about reading, hearing or seeing different things unfold or to learn things. I don't have a addiction to youtube, but on a day with nothing better to do, why not look at it.

Honestly, I fell for the trap of trying to tackle you for something that I know little about, but also its kinda your fault for not keeping your burden-of-proof and finding a source that actually proves me wrong.

My point is that Compulsion is 100% different from Addiction on the pure basis that stopping yourself from being compelled by something will not harm you physically or mentally until you do said thing again. Addiction will lead to Withdraws if your needs are not met, and as such can cause your personality to change along with your actual body feeling.

PS: Yes, I changed my whole post because you kept adding to your first one, so I couldn't notice that you did so until checking my post and finding out that you completely changed stances in a few minutes.

I didn't change my stance, I just moved it down (er up) to the next post after I saw you already replied to that post.

 

[somonels]

Tried that, ended reading a lot of books, pfft, what a waste.

You know what they say: "the best way to get off booze is to start injecting crack into your eye."

 

[Aprilgold]

So let's get this straight here. Gambling isn't an addiction? That's what you're saying? It's a compulsion?

Compulsion is handled differently by different people. After looking back on said post, I left a few things out like how Compulsion can get worse depending on person-to-person. Next time, don't bring up something that is not what I was saying. Were sticking strictly to the fact that you can not get addicted to the interenet or games, simply on the basis that you can not form a physical need for them.

Its impossible to get addicted to the internet, because it doesn't create a physical need or want to hop on. You won't experience a withdrawal that someone who takes heroine might if they stop taking the drug.

Once again, your using metaphors to compare things that are completely different. While everyone takes compulsion or addiction differently, it does not mean that I will experience a withdrawal if I don't read a book for a month.

You have a want to gamble, and while it may be a extreme want, you do not need to gamble to physically stay fit and healthy. If you smoke and then stop, you will experience difficulties staying fit and will still have the high want to smoke.

Compulsion is different on the simple basis that you can still stay physically fit and won't experience extreme physical or mental issues if you do not read / do / look at X thing, while if you take some type of drug, including Nicotine and Alcohol, then you will experience a withdrawal if you are not taking enough of the substance.

Once again, comparing a smoking addiction to internet compulsion is like killing murder to a man killing another man in the defense of others. While both have similair outcome such as someone dead, it was done for different reasons, and one is morally 'right' and one is morally 'wrong.'

PS. Don't change the subject in order to escape the fact that, you, sir or madam, listed a non-professional or trust worthy source or do not understand the difference between a addiction, withdrawal and a compulsion and the fact that a compulsion is a want not a need.

That's fine. The issue I'm having is with

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20050413/gambling-addiction-resembles-brain-problem

Oh look, web MD used the term gambling addiction. Those idiots must know nothing about medical health. How could they use such improper terminology. This must discredit all of the research they've posted up to this point. Gambling compulsion. Put that on a tier down.

Seriously, your entire rant, well it's not semantics, but it's kind of overwrought. The negative effects of pornography, internet, gaming and gambling "addictions" are all well documented. What's more, going without them can get people on edge, though you're right. It's not the same as actually having a physiological dependency on a certain substance. However, I used to be a smoker and drinker. I quit. It was HARD and yes I went through the typical withdrawals. The idea of quitting porn and the internet, honestly, seems like an equally difficult prospect right now, so the idea of doing seems comparable in my mind. You could have just as easily summed up that whole rant is "it's a compulsion, not an addiction + a few sentences". It's still hard to quit and the "compulsion" as it were, still can have very severe negative effects on a person. Tangible, neurological effects that effectively change the brains production of chemicals and activity. In that regard, it's still very serious. In a colloquial sense, it's still an addiction. You're right, it doesn't have the detrimental health effects or deadly withdrawals that those other things have, but no one really needed that to be pointed out. Of course, my example about smoking to the other guy is still apt, because in that context not smoking and not watching porn are both hard. yes, I won't get jittery and have headaches if I don't watch porn, but I'm still going to crave it.

I'm very happy that you actually quoted me this time instead of constantly adding to your post, but from what I see, its nothing that I didn't just address in my revision TO my post.

While I'm at it, unless you are literally getting less healthy and are spending time on the web instead of doing things that are relatively important, then this would be good for you, as it stands, I still think that this thread is fucking pointless as HELL because of all the shiz that you didn't mention, and when countered with things that you forgot you drop behind the wall of ever changing subject.

You forgot to look for more sources which is problem one, you outright say that you weren't arsed to actually go find another source to either the contrary that pornography is bad or another one supporting it. You say that it is the nature of addiction that people think that it is impossible to go 90 days without using the web, that isn't the case. People see it as impossible because they very well could only communicate with family members or friends through the web, or have a career that deals with the web. It would be impossible for me not to go onto the web because of schooling that I am taking online, and the fact that this is the only way to stay in contact with a close friend.

Overall, you simply fall behind changing subjects, assuming things about a person [earlier, you assumed that I thought Gambling could not be a addiction when I say, IN THE SAME FUCKING PARAGRAPH that it can be] the comparing going cold turkey on cigarettes to comparing going cold turkey to playing games just doesn't match up.

Once again, I honestly think that you would have been better off just doing this instead of writing a topic about it.

I didn't change my stance, I just moved it down (er up) to the next post after I saw you already replied to that post.

Let this be my last post edit, and I hope this is yours to so we can have a coherent conversation.

 

[Rastien]

Thanks for your kind words of support everyone. Starting tomorrow this little experiment will go into full swing. I'll try and post once a week updating my progress and any noted improvements.

Noted improvements, could we hear about anything going bad also. I mean its a cool idea and all but if your activley looking for improvements you will find them, if you get where im coming from.

Not saying its a bad thing but it might be worth trying to look for all changes not just the "good".

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

Regardless, the neighbors have chosen tonight as the night to have their ridiculously loud party, and I won't be able to sleep a wink until they cut it out.

With excuses like that, I've no doubt this effort of yours will be extremely successful.

*goes back to enjoying the internet*

My my, it seems someone's being a negative Nancy.


OT: I'll be interested in hearing about your results. Make sure to make a thread about it when your experiment is over.

Negative to some, soul crushingly realistic to others. You understand, right, person with a subzero heart?

You know what happens when you cut back on processed sugar? You get healthier. You know what happens when you cut processed sugar out of your diet entirely? You get much healthier. You know which one will help you to get healthier faster? If you guessed the latter, you'd be right. You see, the problem is that the starving yourself and drinking shakes isn't healthy because you're not giving your body what it NEEDS. Your body doesn't need aimless internet browsing and it sure has hell doesn't NEED porn. Now, if someone has a SERIOUS alcohol addiction, you don't tell them to cut back, you put them in rehab. Guess what they don't do in rehab. Give them alcohol. Also, when did I I'm never going to browse the internet or look at porn again? Three months is a far cry from "never drinking another drop".

Point is, you're using poor examples as a way to reinforce your own flimsily subjective views.

You know, I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this, it's very rare that giving up something entirely is preferable to simple moderation. Obviously if you're a recovering alcoholic you have to avoid it completely to avoid relapsing, but otherwise a little alcohol tends to be good for you, at least physically.
Ever heard of allergy injections? Vaccinations? They both work on the assumption that exposing yourself to small amounts of something generally considered bad for you can make your body stronger, not weaker.

As to your processed sugar argument; if by giving up processed sugar you mean switching from it to natural (impure) sugar, you are right. Natural sugar has more nutrients which are good for you. Processed sugar may not have these additional nutrients, being a much purer substance, but it's not bad for the body. The right amount of sugar, of any kind, is better than none at all.
I hate how people demonize certain substances simply because it's unhealthy with overconsumption. Guess what, EVERYTHING is unhealthy when overconsumed.

Those crash diets and lifestyles people get into, where you only eat one type of food or totally eliminate entire food groups, really pisses me off. In my eyes, it's a way for people to avoid taking responsibility and to blame something else, be it carbs, protein or McDonalods. Rather than admit they simply refuse to take control and enjoy something responsibly, they blame something else and act as if eliminating it will make them better.

Discipline and self-control seem to be qualities rather than standards nowadays.

Yes, we've been made aware of your narrow-minded view and poor correlation skills. Also, your "soul-crushing realism" is about a soul-crushing as your debating skills are competent. That is: not very.

I'm glad I had such an impact on you and that you care so greatly for me that the need to reply to a conversation you were not involved in arose. I feel special.

 

[ungothicdove]

Limited internet and no porn.... pure fallacy i tell you. Unless you have a sneaky selection of "gentlemans magazines" so to speak, Wink wink nudge nudge.

I think you meant to spell that wank wank...

 

[Sigmund Av Volsung]

Alright Escapists. In light of some recent brain studies about internet addiction and a couple of videos I've seen on the negative effects of porn, I've decided to try and cut myself off from these two "vices". Personally, I've noticed myself falling into extremely addictive patterns that are starting to negatively affect my quality of life.

??? i am unaware of these negative effects of which you speak, almost everything I've read/heard about masturbation either said it was a positive effect or that it makes you go to hell (catholic priest logic, sex with a 10 year old is fine but me masturbating is wrong) and from my own experience masturbation is a good thing (I'm pretty sure that 99% of men agree with me on this one)

same goes for the internet, true in excess it is bad but to cut down to 1 hour a day? surely that is overkill, the internet has many great benefits and while doing it in excess is harmful, the same goes for everything from smoking to exercise and I really dont understand your reasons for quitting.

I'm not challenging, flaming or hating you, im mostly just curious as to why the hell you would do this and it seams like a very bad idea to me

Here's another nugget of info about masturbation; according to research, masturbating for at least twice per week can severely reduce your chances of getting prostrate cancer; so it can be very beneficial for one's health.

As for the internet; I went with no porn & only 1 hour of internet per day once for 30 days; wasn't too bad, but I was on holiday, so I was preoccupied with things to do, as for my personality, well I was more insuferrable(in a waay to helpful and nice kind of way) and I was less emotionally balanced.

But thats just me, good luck on your venture; you can have my axe and my dagger.

 

[Gabanuka]

I was considering doing that. Then Legend of Korra came out and the only way I can watch the episode is video via the interwebs. Plus I like this site to much, ya'll my bros!

 

[lRookiel]

Jesus, all I use the internet for is Facebook, here and porn.

Is there anything else? I mean, really.

Youtube and Wiki's spring to mind ^^

OT:

You poor bastard, I wish you luck.

*Plays Bagpipes*

 

[Snowbell]

Am I allowed to watch my downloaded anime while I avoid the internet? If so then this'll be a cinch!

 

[thethird0611]

Spoiler

So let's get this straight here. Gambling isn't an addiction? That's what you're saying? It's a compulsion?

Compulsion is handled differently by different people. After looking back on said post, I left a few things out like how Compulsion can get worse depending on person-to-person. Next time, don't bring up something that is not what I was saying. Were sticking strictly to the fact that you can not get addicted to the interenet or games, simply on the basis that you can not form a physical need for them.

Its impossible to get addicted to the internet, because it doesn't create a physical need or want to hop on. You won't experience a withdrawal that someone who takes heroine might if they stop taking the drug.

Once again, your using metaphors to compare things that are completely different. While everyone takes compulsion or addiction differently, it does not mean that I will experience a withdrawal if I don't read a book for a month.

You have a want to gamble, and while it may be a extreme want, you do not need to gamble to physically stay fit and healthy. If you smoke and then stop, you will experience difficulties staying fit and will still have the high want to smoke.

Compulsion is different on the simple basis that you can still stay physically fit and won't experience extreme physical or mental issues if you do not read / do / look at X thing, while if you take some type of drug, including Nicotine and Alcohol, then you will experience a withdrawal if you are not taking enough of the substance.

Once again, comparing a smoking addiction to internet compulsion is like killing murder to a man killing another man in the defense of others. While both have similair outcome such as someone dead, it was done for different reasons, and one is morally 'right' and one is morally 'wrong.'

PS. Don't change the subject in order to escape the fact that, you, sir or madam, listed a non-professional or trust worthy source or do not understand the difference between a addiction, withdrawal and a compulsion and the fact that a compulsion is a want not a need.

That's fine. The issue I'm having is with

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/news/20050413/gambling-addiction-resembles-brain-problem

Oh look, web MD used the term gambling addiction. Those idiots must know nothing about medical health. How could they use such improper terminology. This must discredit all of the research they've posted up to this point. Gambling compulsion. Put that on a tier down.

Seriously, your entire rant, well it's not semantics, but it's kind of overwrought. The negative effects of pornography, internet, gaming and gambling "addictions" are all well documented. What's more, going without them can get people on edge, though you're right. It's not the same as actually having a physiological dependency on a certain substance. However, I used to be a smoker and drinker. I quit. It was HARD and yes I went through the typical withdrawals. The idea of quitting porn and the internet, honestly, seems like an equally difficult prospect right now, so the idea of doing seems comparable in my mind. You could have just as easily summed up that whole rant is "it's a compulsion, not an addiction + a few sentences". It's still hard to quit and the "compulsion" as it were, still can have very severe negative effects on a person. Tangible, neurological effects that effectively change the brains production of chemicals and activity. In that regard, it's still very serious. In a colloquial sense, it's still an addiction. You're right, it doesn't have the detrimental health effects or deadly withdrawals that those other things have, but no one really needed that to be pointed out. Of course, my example about smoking to the other guy is still apt, because in that context not smoking and not watching porn are both hard. yes, I won't get jittery and have headaches if I don't watch porn, but I'm still going to crave it.

I'm very happy that you actually quoted me this time instead of constantly adding to your post, but from what I see, its nothing that I didn't just address in my revision TO my post.

While I'm at it, unless you are literally getting less healthy and are spending time on the web instead of doing things that are relatively important, then this would be good for you, as it stands, I still think that this thread is fucking pointless as HELL because of all the shiz that you didn't mention, and when countered with things that you forgot you drop behind the wall of ever changing subject.

You forgot to look for more sources which is problem one, you outright say that you weren't arsed to actually go find another source to either the contrary that pornography is bad or another one supporting it. You say that it is the nature of addiction that people think that it is impossible to go 90 days without using the web, that isn't the case. People see it as impossible because they very well could only communicate with family members or friends through the web, or have a career that deals with the web. It would be impossible for me not to go onto the web because of schooling that I am taking online, and the fact that this is the only way to stay in contact with a close friend.

Overall, you simply fall behind changing subjects, assuming things about a person [earlier, you assumed that I thought Gambling could not be a addiction when I say, IN THE SAME FUCKING PARAGRAPH that it can be] the comparing going cold turkey on cigarettes to comparing going cold turkey to playing games just doesn't match up.

Once again, I honestly think that you would have been better off just doing this instead of writing a topic about it.

I didn't change my stance, I just moved it down (er up) to the next post after I saw you already replied to that post.

Let this be my last post edit, and I hope this is yours to so we can have a coherent conversation.

Internet/Gaming addiction.

Spoiler

PET imaging studies have found increased release of dopamine in the striatum during the video game. Patients with pathological gambling also demonstrated high level of dopamine in the ventral striatum during gambling . Because increased extracellular dopamine in the striatum is associated with subjective descriptors of reward (high, euphoria) , individuals with IAD may also experience euphoria as the extracellular dopamine in the striatum increases. However, long-time and high concentrations of dopamine have been shown to cause a selective lesion of dopamine terminals and decreased size of dopaminergic cell bodies . Taken together, the reduced DATs found in our study may indicate the neuropathologic damage to the dopaminergic neural system caused by IAD.

Hou, H., Jia, S., Hu, S., et. al. (2012). Reduced Striatal Dopamine Transporters in People with Internet Addiction Disorder. PubMed. doi: 10.1155/2012/854524

The reward system is thought to play a crucial role in the development and maintenance of drug addiction and drug addicts often showed a deficient reward system.22,27 To investigate the reward and punishment processing in IAD, Dong et al. scanning the brain of the individuals with IAD and controls when they received a guessing task.28 The results showed that Internet addicts associated with increased activation in orbitofrontal cortex in gain trials and decreased anterior cingulate activation in loss trials than normal controls. The results suggested that Internet addicts have enhanced reward sensitivity and decreased loss sensitivity than normal comparisons.

Yuan, K., Qin, W., Liu, Y., Tian, J. (2011) Internet addiction: Neuroimaging findings. PubMed.

Pornography

Spoiler

A recent study supports growing evidence that compulsive sexuality can indeed be addictive. In 2007, a VBM study out of Germany looked specifically at pedophilia, and demonstrated almost identical finding to the cocaine, methamphetamine, and obesity studies.[25] It concludes for the first time that a sexual compulsion can cause physical, anatomic change in the brain, the hallmark of brain addiction. A preliminary study showed frontal dysfunction specifically in patients unable to control their sexual behavior.[16] This study used diffusion MRI to evaluate function of nerve transmission through white matter. It demonstrated abnormality in the superior frontal region, an area associated with compulsivity.

Donald L. Hilton, Jr and Clark Watts (2011). Pornography addiction: A neuroscience perspective. PubMed. doi: 10.4103/2152-7806.76977

Sooo, there are published, scholarly journals over the neurology of the addictions and uses. I even cited them (lazily really, I just got finished writing a paper for research, didn't feel like putting in the full effort.)

Yes, there are changes in the brain with both of them. Internet addiction disorder (IAD) is a real thing. Pornography does change the chemical make up of the brain.

There aren't psuedo science journals either. These journals are real scholarly journals. PubMed is an archive of medical related psychology journals.

 

[JoesshittyOs]

Porn I can live without. In fact, I'm about to go on a thirty day break away from porn (though I am gonna be in a place where hookers are legal, so I'm not sure if that counts), as for voiding the internet entirely?

Not fucking possible. I have no job, I only go out with my friends about twice a week, and where I live is extremely boring. The internet is all I have.