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SonicWaffle

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Grunt_Man11 said:
Atheists have faith in science, technology, human ingenuity, and human creativity.
Thus atheism is a religion.

Now many will be angry and upset that I'm calling their believe system a religion but I must ask, why?
Well, I'm not an atheist, but I'd say because most people who try to claim atheism as a religion (incorrectly, I believe) are attempting to use such a claim to discredit atheism. "Oh, we're suckers for believing in God? Well being an atheist takes just as much faith, so it's a religion too!"

Going by the things you've quoted, should we assume that religious people don't have faith in science, technology, ingenuity and human creativity? If so, remind me to call me friend and get my AC:Brotherhood back because if she doesn't have faith in her xbox she can't borrow my games anymore! To have a religion is to have a set of spiritual principles and guidelines. There are no over-arching principles that all atheists adhere to; as such, if atheism were a religion it'd be a different religion for every single atheist. Playing the "atheism is a religion" card only works if there is a standardised belief system that all atheists share. If not (and AFAIK there isn't) it's simply a lack of faith.
 

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Rule 34. Just...why!? I get that people are attracted to sexual themes but this has seriously gotten out of hand for almost everything. I just can't wrap my head around it. I can't even love and tolerate it!

EDIT: BTW I'm absolutely loving this thread. So much fun reading people's points and seeing them play out. This needs to happen more!
 

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DrunkPickle said:
Togs said:
The religious, I dont get how people can overlook the barbarity and outmoded moral concepts thats rife throughout religion. I dont get how these people can then say they hold the moral high ground, that as an atheist Im spiritually dead and morally suspect.
If Im totally honest it makes me very angry.
You are attempting to blame the sins of the church and corrupted Christians on God and faith...I just though I'd point that out...
1 By the rivers of Babylon we sat and wept
when we remembered Zion.
2 There on the poplars
we hung our harps,
3 for there our captors asked us for songs,
our tormentors demanded songs of joy;
they said, ?Sing us one of the songs of Zion!?
4 How can we sing the songs of the LORD
while in a foreign land?
5 If I forget you, Jerusalem,
may my right hand forget its skill.
6 May my tongue cling to the roof of my mouth
if I do not remember you,
if I do not consider Jerusalem
my highest joy.

7 Remember, LORD, what the Edomites did
on the day Jerusalem fell.
?Tear it down,? they cried,
?tear it down to its foundations!?
8 Daughter Babylon, doomed to destruction,
happy is the one who repays you
according to what you have done to us.
9 Happy is the one who seizes your infants
and dashes them against the rocks.

Sometimes it's quite easy to blame it.

EDIT: Psalms 137, buy the way.
 

Mischa87

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holy_secret said:
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holy_secret said:
Transexuals.
I don't understand why it's a mental disorder to feel like your arm isn't part of you but to feel like your body is of the wrong gender is a-okay.
First off, it's transsexual, with two S's.

And are you implying that transsexuality is a mental disorder? It's actually a result of hormonally altered structures in the brain, it's actually more of a mutation than a mental condition.

If you actually want to learn more, feel free to PM me, I shall spare the other posters my rants.
Seriously? You fellt like you needed to correct my spelling? Did it make you feel better to do so? I made another typo, just for you :)

I'm not implying anything. I am not a docto so saying it's a mental disorder when it is not classified as one would just be stupid. I am saying it doesn't make sense to me.

This is why I can never get an answer or have this make sense. As soon as I say that it doesn't make sense to me I get this huge backlash like I'm a monster who should have perfect knowledge and understanding of everything. You know. Like GOD.
Wasn't trying to pick on you, I apologize if you thought of it that way, it's just that like... 90% of the population spells it wrong.

And I'm sorry if you think what I was saying was some sort of backlash, was merely trying to help you understand it better, if you'd like, I could send you some resources that may help.
 

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I don't understand how it's possible for someone to sing off key and not even realize it.

I'm practically pitch perfect, and I can't understand how others just don't notice when their notes are wrong.
 

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I dont understand how people can follow religion.

The christian religion get their beliefs from the bible, I see it as a sort of story book for getting kids back then to fall asleep by being told the stories of jesus, its ridiculous how so many people put all their faith in a magic man who lives in heaven and supposedly created the earth and all things on it..... its just so far fetched to me. -.-
 

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DrunkPickle said:
You are attempting to blame the sins of the church and corrupted Christians on God and faith...I just though I'd point that out...
I honestly wish I was, but unfortunately Im not.
I remember reading the bible as a kid and being shocked at the violence and cruelty perpetrated by a figure that up until that point Id been told was all about unconditional love, peace and tolerance.
Since then Ive become something of a myth geek, but christian (and especially catholicism) is both the richest and most bloodthirsty.
This isnt an intentional attack on your faith so please hold back on that empassioned rant, Ill just ignore it- believe what you want and I'll do the same, with no need for getting our blood pressures raised.
 

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People who claim that our faith in science is just as blind as people's faith in religion (just 2 days ago actually). I point them to Tim Minchin's 'Storm'.

I don't care what people believe as long as they don't impose it on me (unless, you know, it's a law), but that's just plain wrong.
 

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People who become enraged while driving. I don't get how being cut-off or honked at is a reason go ballistic. It's not like they called you mother a [insert insult], or questioned your manhood in someway. Each day I'm thankful I take transit to work.
 

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Hubert South said:
Dystopia said:
Had you read my post, you'd see that it's not about the animal, as that was an example, but that a person can be so detached and remorseless that they can inflict that much suffering upon an innocent living thing.
Ever squished a bug, sprayed a spider, put out mouse traps, etc, etc?
That is a completely ridiculous question that I'm not going to dignify with an answer (who uses mouse traps?!). I'm not going to rise to someone trying to deliberately antagonise me. So yeah, done with you now.
 

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holy_secret said:
Mischa87 said:
holy_secret said:
Transexuals.
I don't understand why it's a mental disorder to feel like your arm isn't part of you but to feel like your body is of the wrong gender is a-okay.
First off, it's transsexual, with two S's.

And are you implying that transsexuality is a mental disorder? It's actually a result of hormonally altered structures in the brain, it's actually more of a mutation than a mental condition.

If you actually want to learn more, feel free to PM me, I shall spare the other posters my rants.
Seriously? You fellt like you needed to correct my spelling? Did it make you feel better to do so? I made another typo, just for you :)

I'm not implying anything. I am not a docto so saying it's a mental disorder when it is not classified as one would just be stupid. I am saying it doesn't make sense to me.

This is why I can never get an answer or have this make sense. As soon as I say that it doesn't make sense to me I get this huge backlash like I'm a monster who should have perfect knowledge and understanding of everything. You know. Like GOD.

I think the reason you never get a reply is that when someone offers to tell you about it you act like a victim. Might want to do a bit of research sometimes.
 

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I can't wrap my head around why people can't understand things. I mean, all it takes is some time and an earnest effort. Well, I suppose I can see why, but it doesn't make sense. That is to say, it doesn't make much sense if you think about it, but if you mull it over you can see why...

*sigh*

I used to understand... then I took an arrow in the knee.
 

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Jonluw said:
Tips_of_Fingers said:
A wise man once said: "A suicide isn't painless, if you leave everyone in pain."
NOFX, eh?
As an offshoot of suicide, I'll say that self-harming is definitely another thing that I cannot grasp. I genuinely find it hard to take pity on people who hurt themselves as a way of dealing with their problems. There's enough people trying to hurt us in this world without successfully doing it ourselves....
As someone who's... well, *tried* to harm himself, I could try to shed some light on it. I suspect the experience is highly subjective though.
Self harm isn't an attempt to deal with problems. At least in my case, it offered short-term relief. When you're in pain, your mind focuses only on that.
It's like entering a meditative state.
Before I cut, my mind was just buzzing with thousands of thoughts, all sad, depressing or painful. It's a very stressful situation to be in, and when so cut all those thoughts are blown away for a moment and in your mind there is only an acute awareness of the cut.
It brings calm, in a very weird, sort of disturbing way.
In a way, it just feels right when you do it.

Keep in mind that I'm not recommending self-harm. I'm just trying to explain the concept somewhat rationally.
I know many people who have self-harmed (even my girlfriend has done it in the past) and I've had extensive conversations with people with self-harming experience. They've all explained exactly what you said but...well...I still can't understand how people think it can help. I get that it's a way to forget everything else for a brief moment but...nope...still can't understand why people do it.

It likely doesn't help that - despite being a cynical person - I'm one of the most positive people I know. I'm a paradox lol.

And yes, NOFX. = D
 

SonicWaffle

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DrunkPickle said:
Statements such as "You'll go to Hell if you don't believe in God", are particularly aggravating - they even bother me, even though I'm a theist. Strangely though, the Bible prohibits such acts; just another fact that proves most Christians are diluted ,and have no little idea of their faith(No offence intended).
Isn't there that whole "the only way to the Father is through me" thing?

Not taking a potshot, just curious. I was under the impression that quite a lot of Christian sects believe that following Jesus is the only way to get to Heaven.

Personally, I always liked that bit at the end of The Last Battle (I think) where Aslan tells the dwarfs that they get to go to Heaven just for being decent blokes, even though they never worshipped him.
 

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SirBryghtside said:
I thought the last sentence made it obvious...
Heh, you might think. But I remember several very long conversations on the R&P board where multiple people were singing that very tune completely straight faced. I didn't catch the troll myself at first.

Togs said:
The religious, I dont get how people can overlook the barbarity and outmoded moral concepts thats rife throughout religion...
I think you have a very limited concept of what exactly "religion" entails. It's not limited to Western monotheism, or even theism in general. It's not even always a moral and social doctrine. And where the strange moral codes are, they are often (if not always) a reflection of the people's inherent views, not the other way around. So they aren't "overlooking" anything, they're just doing what they already believe is right. Fundamentalism and extremism, as it were, aren't diseases, really, they're symptoms.

Scarim Coral said:
Because it is that real life person decision to be fat or muscular while the frictional character is not suppose to be fat or muscular in the first place. Yes it's the fanart artist who alter that character to be that way so it like being force to be fat or muscular (yes I know the character are not real but still).

I know people like it but I just don't understand why since I cannot relate them for liking something that is many think you're a weirdo.
You say "but still," but I don't think you're really supporting that. The whole point of fan art is to take liberties with the subject material for the sake of personal expression. As for the last part, I hope you can at least understand what it's like from their perspective, seeing as you're a brony and all. You may still not understand why it is they like it, but at least you can understand what it's like to like something "weird," right?