Dynast Brass said:
Since you seem to have "forgotten", I was asking for proof that his quote was intentionally misreported, which you claimed earlier.
That he said what he said, that he stood by it when asked, and that the public reaction wasn't unusual has been debated to what any reasonable person would consider a conclusion. Literally the only thing I'm curious about is your wild claim, which you keep trying not to support with all kinds of maneuvering.
Okay my mistake, I was under the impression we were operating with the same basic information.
So, at a conference he made these remarks:
It's strange that such a chauvinist monster like me has been asked to speak to women scientists. Let me tell you about my trouble with girls. Three things happen when they are in the lab: you fall in love with them, they fall in love with you, and when you criticise them they cry. Perhaps we should make separate labs for boys and girls? Now, seriously, I'm impressed by the economic development of Korea. And women scientists played, without doubt an important role in it. Science needs women, and you should do science, despite all the obstacles, and despite monsters like me.
which when reported on in the media became:
Scientists should work in gender-segregated labs, according to a Nobel laureate, who said the trouble with ?girls? is that they cause men to fall in love with them and cry when criticised.
Tim Hunt, an English biochemist who admitted that he has a reputation for being a ?chauvinist?, said to the World Conference of Science Journalists in Seoul, South Korea: ?Let me tell you about my trouble with girls ? three things happen when they are in the lab ? You fall in love with them, they fall in love with you and when you criticise them, they cry.?
Hunt said he was in favour of single-sex labs, adding that he didn?t want to ?stand in the way of women?.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jun/10/nobel-scientist-tim-hunt-female-scientists-cause-trouble-for-men-in-labs
Then came ?the trouble with girls?. Or rather, Hunt?s contention at a conference in Seoul, delivered at a lunch held for women science journalists, that there was such a thing. The problem, he proposed, was that men and women fall in love in the lab and that this was disruptive to science. Moreover, he said, women cry when their work is criticised. For the good of science, he suggested, labs might be sexually segregated.
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jun/12/tim-hunt-trouble-with-girls-in-science-comment
This was before the full remark had been made publicly available.
So while perhaps the guardian can not be proven to have deliberately misquoted him, those who were present and tweeted the edited comment without the full context definitely can be shown to have been either dishonest or mistaken, such as:
Connie St Louis, the source for many of the journalists, gave only 37 words of the remark (from "Let me tell you about my trouble with girls" to "when you criticise them they cry") but said "he just ploughed on for about five to seven minutes."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Hunt#Remarks_about_women_in_science
However, when the full text of his words were made available, which confirmed what he had maintained (that it was a clear use of ironic self-parody), the guardian then repeated the claim:
Hunt, 72, caused outrage earlier this month when he accused female scientists of being disruptive and has also been forced to resign from other academic posts.
He has since admitted he had made an ?idiotic joke? during a conference in Seoul, South Korea, but insisted his remarks had not been fully reported and that he had the support of hundreds of female scientists.
Hunt had told the audience of his ?trouble with girls ... you fall in love with them, they fall in love with you, and when you criticise them, they cry?, but, he said, he had gone on to say ?now seriously? before praising the role of women in science.
http://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/jun/30/jonathan-dimbleby-resigns-ucl-sir-tim-hunt
It is three weeks since Sir Tim Hunt, a Nobel prize winner, shared his sexist opinion of female scientists ? distractingly sexy, prone to weep when criticised and best segregated at work ? with a room full of science writers.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/30/the-guardian-view-on-the-tim-hunt-affair-an-explosive-combination-of-science-sexism-and-social-media
clearly omitting the available full quote in favour of keeping the narrative train on the tracks.
So that is how I formed my opinion, and make my wild claim, that the quote has been intentionally misreported.
Edit to add:
There was also this disappointing piece by Phil Plait in Slate on the 1st of July:
What he said there is now Internet history. He made a series of sexist comments, saying that the problem with ?girls? in science is that they fall in love with the men; the men fall in love with them; and when you confront them, they cry. He then went on to suggest labs should be single-sex.
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A lot of electrons have been spilled over whether Hunt went on to say, ?Now seriously?,? which would indicate he was actually joking. Seife (who, again, was there at the luncheon) says Hunt never said this.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2015/07/01/tim_hunt_nobel_laureate_s_comments_about_girls_and_science.html
which I see as an unforgivably dishonest article, especially at this stage in the whole saga.
