The water temple in Legend of Zelda:OOT had to be the most annoying level in a video game ever spawned... But that dosent stop me from loving the game.
Nobody likes water levels
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Eh, there are plenty of quality water levels in games, old and new... I tend to enjoy the challenge of slightly changed game mechanics that come with 'em... except for the ones that just make everything slower... that's just a lazy physics cop-out.
Also, I love watery maps in Supreme Commander. Limited build space, vulnerable bases, and naval shore bombardment... some of my favorite challenges.
Also, I love watery maps in Supreme Commander. Limited build space, vulnerable bases, and naval shore bombardment... some of my favorite challenges.
The reason a lot of people hate water levels isn't because of the water itself, but because it tends to alter the mechanics of the game:
- Slower movement;
- 2D combat suddenly becomes 3D;
- One lane combat suddenly features several lanes;
- Shorter jumps;
- Game feels slower;
- Enemies are designed to take advantage of your new-found lack of comfort with the level;
- Slower movement;
- 2D combat suddenly becomes 3D;
- One lane combat suddenly features several lanes;
- Shorter jumps;
- Game feels slower;
- Enemies are designed to take advantage of your new-found lack of comfort with the level;
Nobody likes water levels? Hmmm, I'd never thought of that before, although I suppose it does make sense and sounds about right. I mean, it explains perfectly why this game didn't sell well and never got a sequel:
I like first person water levels (usually)I had no problem with the water zones in, say, world of warcraft. I HATE third person water levels like the ones in Mario or banjo-kazooie because I never am able to get the angels right and the character winds up moving in a direction slightly to the left or right of the object I need to touch.
This does not count as a water level. Here, people are defining water levels as anywhere you actually have to interact with the water.Steppin Razor said:Nobody likes water levels? Hmmm, I'd never thought of that before, although I suppose it does make sense and sounds about right. I mean, it explains perfectly why this game didn't sell well and never got a sequel:
The one water level I can think of is the airboat chapter in Half-life 2, and to be honest I found it quite fast-paced, intense and fun.
Edit: Ooh! Wait! I've got another one, when you've got to go into those caves to do that research for the woman writing the book in Megaton in Fallout 3, and I guess that sort of sucked, but I guess it is more to do with those hermit-crab things (I forget the name) than the water itself.
Edit: Ooh! Wait! I've got another one, when you've got to go into those caves to do that research for the woman writing the book in Megaton in Fallout 3, and I guess that sort of sucked, but I guess it is more to do with those hermit-crab things (I forget the name) than the water itself.
I like the zelda ocarina of time water level. Mostly because it was one of the hardest levels, it was a maze. Zelda Majoras mask also had some fun water levels.
Water levels I hated would be the Tomb raider ones. They were so annoying constantly ran out of oxygen because the controls were so crappy underwater.
Water levels I hated would be the Tomb raider ones. They were so annoying constantly ran out of oxygen because the controls were so crappy underwater.
Ever since I played JAck ad Daxter when I was in 1st grade I have had an ever-growing fear of water in video games I have only recently gotten over.
I mean, SERIOUSLY! It tells you that swimming in water = eaten by giant pirahnnas, then turns around and tells you at almost every turn that you have to go through water to beat the level. >.<
But yeah, for those who have played some of the older games... Water = fear like the plague in most cases.
I've seen a few games pull it off, but not very often.
EDIT: Well, I've also got a problem with the "totally helpless underwater" or "can only hurt things this way" deals, such as how magic only works with touch attacks underwater.
I mean, SERIOUSLY! It tells you that swimming in water = eaten by giant pirahnnas, then turns around and tells you at almost every turn that you have to go through water to beat the level. >.<
But yeah, for those who have played some of the older games... Water = fear like the plague in most cases.
I've seen a few games pull it off, but not very often.
EDIT: Well, I've also got a problem with the "totally helpless underwater" or "can only hurt things this way" deals, such as how magic only works with touch attacks underwater.
I want a game where you get a spear gun for water levels. Seriously, would you go into enemy-infested waters without a weapon that works underwater?
The only water level I don't like is the Water Temple...in Majora's Mask. I love both the Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess one.
Turok 2 on the N64 had that. It had some memorable weapons, peroid. Cerebral Bore, anyone?Aurora Firestorm said:
I always used to dread the underwater bits in older Tomb Raider levels, because they'd invariably try to make the tunnels 'realistic', which would mean Lara would get stuck on edges and in corners and drown. And of all the deaths she could suffer in Tomb Raider, I always found the drowning animation to be the creepiest.
*shudder*
*shudder*