North korea becomes a sane nation?!

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The Tibballs

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At first there was a public outcry from the north, as if millions of voices cried out and were suddenly silenced. :p
 

Nantucket_v1legacy

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I agree with the above when I say I am happy to hear this news but I am very suspicious.
Am I suspicious because the Western media has twisted it so I am? As far as I am aware, as somebody with not a lot of education and going on solely what I have read in the media, this is an unstable country who claims they found a unicorn only a few months ago.

This could be a trap to get more trade/money in before they blast of the nuclear weapons and attempt to conquer the world. WWIII! D:
I best get some canned food stored up.
 

Alcamonic

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Hopefully this will improve their current situation, and not just fuel a warmachine.

Then again, with the solar flares inc in 2013, North Korea will be a super power due to not having electric stuff everywhere.
 

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One of the few times the Escapists' cynicism is actually a good thing, but Kim Jung Un may actually be be good. He's not yet made the same mistakes his father or his grandfather has made. Maybe instead of seeing the North destroyed in a war, it may take the same path as China. Gradual freedoms being presented. Sure beats the alternative.
 

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So... isnt that the same thing to have happened in Homefront?

OH COME ON! I couldnt have been the only one to think of that...
 

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Considering that I avoid world politics like the plaque due to my completely uninformed status, the only opinion I have on this is that it is nice to see countries attempting to make peace with each other.
 

Timedraven 117

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As i saw the threads name i was pulling out Bender, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M

But then i read the news and the posts and i was like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M

In all honesty he is listening to his advisers. Il never listened to his advisers, in fact some of those who left NK actually complained about that. I think his only opposition o this will be the military, but if he does it right and is serious about this then he could succeed.
 

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I'll believe it when I see it, but maybe...just maybe...once you scour an apple all the way down to the core, you might as well plant the seeds. The North Korean government has been feeding off its people to the point of absurdity, and now, maybe there's just not enough stuff in the whole country to keep the elite few fat and happy. Maybe they figure they had a good run, and its time to make a real country, and with any luck they will still be at the top to skim of a smaller percentage of the spoils, in a more sustainable way. It will be rough: China gets away with a lot of totalitarian bullshit, but no where near N. Koreas league, and they have an actual economy to give them leverage. But heres hoping. Unfortunately, its all to easy to see this as a scam to eek out some additional aid money.
 

lechat

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dammit that was our last shot at having a stand alone nation
you guys do realize this is what the Illuminati want right?
 

Not G. Ivingname

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I don't think so. Kim constantly said they need to reunite the "country," even though Korea obviously two nations, nor did actually say any specific economic, social, or other reforms. Nor did he suggest the simplest solution, step down and formally surrender to the much freer, much more advanced, much richer, and better fed South.

This screams more of a desperate "send us food," message more than anything else. North Korea requires foreign aid to remain anything close to functioning.
 

ecoho

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i think theyve realized that soon the japanese will figure out how to make robotic solders(i mean full on humanoid btw) that can take commands from computers miles away soon and theyre going to give that tech to the south koreans who will then use their mighty army of professional starcraft players to wage war againts their enimies!
 

thesilentman

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Well, I can now point at the nutty, pessimist conspiracy theorists and laugh at them keeping their tinfoil hat on 24/7 for matters relating to North Korea. If this ends up being a good thing, color me genuinely surprised.
 

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Not G. Ivingname said:
I don't think so. Kim constantly said they need to reunite the "country," even though Korea obviously two nations, nor did actually say any specific economic, social, or other reforms. Nor did he suggest the simplest solution, step down and formally surrender to the much freer, much more advanced, much richer, and better fed South.

This screams more of a desperate "send us food," message more than anything else. North Korea requires foreign aid to remain anything close to functioning.
I find it somewhat amusing that so many nations have a trade-sanction against them that they can't properly feed themselves (because yes, if they were able to fully trade, this would probably not be an issue, even though their production-methods in general are probably sub-par) but we continue to send them aid.
Maybe we should just trade with them instead?

http://www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/202/42450.html - According to this article, North Korea doesn't have much of a market to trade with anyway (though it's from 99).

Still, having a total trade-sanction but dumping 500 tons of food a year? Still find it a tad amusing.
 

NightmareExpress

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That's an interesting development.
Curious to see if it'll really come to fruition, or if there's some dark ulterior motive to it all.
 

Giftfromme

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lol North Korea is owning its land and now needs help badly to stave off catastrophe. Let's see how this goes
 

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NicotineStainedSoul said:
Another thing is, as much as he is the new dictator, he is still young and unproven and not as venerated as his father or grandfather...yet. He might want his country to go in that direction but he must appease the workers party and the extremely influential military. If i recall when he assumed power there was a complete reshuffle of the military, preventing any immediate threat of coups for power at the point of transition.
There may actually be something to this. He was educated in Europe, and is somewhat westernized as a result. There was some speculation at the time of his rise to power that he'd be more moderate than his father and grandfather, and less of a hardcore communist dictator. I guess time will tell.
 

Not G. Ivingname

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Realitycrash said:
Not G. Ivingname said:
I don't think so. Kim constantly said they need to reunite the "country," even though Korea obviously two nations, nor did actually say any specific economic, social, or other reforms. Nor did he suggest the simplest solution, step down and formally surrender to the much freer, much more advanced, much richer, and better fed South.

This screams more of a desperate "send us food," message more than anything else. North Korea requires foreign aid to remain anything close to functioning.
I find it somewhat amusing that so many nations have a trade-sanction against them that they can't properly feed themselves (because yes, if they were able to fully trade, this would probably not be an issue, even though their production-methods in general are probably sub-par) but we continue to send them aid.
Maybe we should just trade with them instead?

http://www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/202/42450.html - According to this article, North Korea doesn't have much of a market to trade with anyway (though it's from 99).

Still, having a total trade-sanction but dumping 500 tons of food a year? Still find it a tad amusing.
Except... trade for what?

They have a small amount of coal I guess. Maybe we can buy their bundles of rocks?

We can't get money from them. The nation also counterfeits huge amounts of dollar bills, so no one is going to trust a cent from the nation, and currency of communist nations has as much worth for foreigners anyway.

They have NOTHING.