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what i would have done in in such situation is probably exactly what you did all the way down to a guilt trip.
What i wish i would have done in such a situation would be to ask her and then act based on whether she is accepting or rejecting the attemtp to help. If she wants to be alone fine let her be alone, if not, then not. i would not go overboard though.
 

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kurokotetsu said:
This is how I see it:

If she truly wanted to be left alone to weep and be with her thoughts, she probably wouldn't have been in the situation where she was sitting next to you (unless there was some school obligation to do so). I'm big on empathy and sympathy, so I would have at least asked if she was alright or if she needed to talk about anything. Human contact, even if it's listening to someone vent their life problems, has more...emotional/spiritual value to me than any time-wasting I would have been doing on the Internet.

You found her attractive, maybe she was near you because she was hoping you'd break the ice. I dunno, I wasn't there. You say you were somewhere you enjoyed due to its seclusion, so she probably wasn't next to you on accident. For me personally, I'd ask, then pull up the Mass Effect wheel:

"How about you fuck off and mind your own business" - Well now I know she's not nice, if I'm feeling snarky I'd ask why she brought her business next to me and say I was just being nice. Worst thing that could happen and it's not a big deal.

She gets super personal and specific, shit only close friends/family should know - Try to cut that short. She's way to quick to trust and the problems probably stem deeper than even she's letting on.

Maybe she's glad you asked, confides in you a bit, and you gain a friend in the process. The thing you have to ask yourself is "is my not knowing the outcome of the question worse than the worst-case-scenario of asking"?

But for the love of the Gods, if you see her again you probably shouldn't pull a "so hey, I saw you crying the other day, right? Were you okay"? Nobody wants to be remembered that way (I don't think) and that would probably be weird.

tl; fuckin dr

You aren't a bad person for not acting, but you chose not to take a chance where the negative was minimally damaging and the payoff was near limitless depending on what you want from people.
 

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Generally speaking, you lose very little for asking if something's bothering a person. They talk and you lose a few minutes at worst. They brush you off and you're back where you started but you know they don't feel like talking instead of wondering. They get annoyed? *shrug* You apologize and head back no worse for the wear. It's not exactly betting on the river. All that said, you certainly weren't under any obligation to go over there, though given the OP you might want to try it next time.
 

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briankoontz said:
Lots of people dream of being White Knights these days, and lots of people beat themselves up for not being White Knighty enough to soothe their expanded egos. They fear that if they're not a White Knight they're a Black Knight.

Therefore more young women become Damsels in Distress, to appeal to all the White Knightery going around. So quite possibly she was looking to meet someone, or even "hook up with" someone, as universities are not exactly the most sexually moral places in the world, and was strategically using her sadness to further that goal instead of turning to mom and dad.

When you "failed" to be the White Knight she was "looking for", she moved on, possibly to collect more sadness she's generating through her own duplicity in order to fuel her DiD status, until she successfully captures a White Knight, whose ego can then be super-boosted by his "saving" of the attractive Damsel.

People should just be people, dealing with each other honestly and straightforwardly. Fuck Damsels, fuck White Knights, fuck superheroes, fuck everything within humanity that isn't human.

Good luck to you in the future. You'll be needing it.
Wow. This is about the most cynical thing I've ever read. LOL--oh my god.

And that last bit? Who says she wasn't being honest? How do you know she was pretending to be a "DiD"? That seems like kind of a dick assumption, if you ask me. Why doubt some random stranger's motives like that? If someone's selling you something that sounds too good to be true, I get it, but just some sad chick in a coffee shop?

This might come off a little harsh, but you know you sound completely ridiculous when you say things like "White knight," right? Man, I just don't get it. I mean, what if she was being honest? Asking her what's wrong would be pretty straightforward, no?
 

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kurokotetsu said:
Well, another social situation thread. I'll expose what happened to me today, and your thoughts are appriciated.

After a class at my university I sat down near a spot that I know has a decent Wi-FI signal, just as I often do. It is quite public place, near classrooms, and a some people go by, but it isn't the more transited place, so I quite like it, as I have a sense of time, while being left alone for the most part. SO after half an hour sitting against a culumn and just messing around (and looking about LCS inner workings) a girl sits opposite of me. I notice her and go on my bussiness, only noticing that she is sniffing. Must be either a cold (a virsu has been floating around) or crying I tell myself. As the Internet isn't that good, I look away form the screen from time to time. Now I'm not great at body language, but her covering her eyes and all around sad look tells me that she is probably really sad. Well, I feel bad for her. And I start thinking, maybe I should go there. I see no friends coming for her, and she may need a kind hand. But people handle giref diferently. I would never show that emotioin public and if someone saw me, I wouldn't like that person coming over, probably thanking their kindness but moving away as fast as possible. But maybe she needs someone just the hear her pain and share it, even if it is a stranger. I'm confused. I constantly look over her wondering what to do. I think she noticed me looking, but didn't mind. If I could only say, she might be even showing a glance that may be that calling for help. But I'm not good at interpretation of others emotions and I'm afraid of hurting her further. I just keep refreshing my browser and playing some causal game. I'm afraid that I may be seeing things that I want to see, as I found since the first moment that I found her atractive, and approaching her to sooth her pain, even if the main concious motivation is to help a fellow student, my unconcious may be playing tricks on me. I have no answer. Finally after staring to my screen for a while, she is gone.

And I've been feeling bad the whole day. I'm quite sure that I went at it the most awful way possible, as I both showed that I saw her pain (maybe not leaving her in thelevel of solitude that she might've wanted) nor acting upon it (maybe not giving her the support that se may have needed in a bad place). I don't like being in a position where I may have incremented her pain.

SO Escapist. Whay would you do if you were in my shoes? What if you were in her place? And what do you think of what I did?
she may have needed someone to talk to. better to forgo social etiquette and find out then to wonder as you are now.

sides. if she wanted to be alone I think she probably would not have been where she was now. she couldve found somewhere to have been alone if she really wanted it.
 

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briankoontz said:
kurokotetsu said:
Well, another social situation thread. I'll expose what happened to me today, and your thoughts are appriciated.

After a class at my university I sat down near a spot that I know has a decent Wi-FI signal, just as I often do. It is quite public place, near classrooms, and a some people go by, but it isn't the more transited place, so I quite like it, as I have a sense of time, while being left alone for the most part. SO after half an hour sitting against a culumn and just messing around (and looking about LCS inner workings) a girl sits opposite of me. I notice her and go on my bussiness, only noticing that she is sniffing. Must be either a cold (a virsu has been floating around) or crying I tell myself. As the Internet isn't that good, I look away form the screen from time to time. Now I'm not great at body language, but her covering her eyes and all around sad look tells me that she is probably really sad. Well, I feel bad for her. And I start thinking, maybe I should go there. I see no friends coming for her, and she may need a kind hand. But people handle giref diferently. I would never show that emotioin public and if someone saw me, I wouldn't like that person coming over, probably thanking their kindness but moving away as fast as possible. But maybe she needs someone just the hear her pain and share it, even if it is a stranger. I'm confused. I constantly look over her wondering what to do. I think she noticed me looking, but didn't mind. If I could only say, she might be even showing a glance that may be that calling for help. But I'm not good at interpretation of others emotions and I'm afraid of hurting her further. I just keep refreshing my browser and playing some causal game. I'm afraid that I may be seeing things that I want to see, as I found since the first moment that I found her atractive, and approaching her to sooth her pain, even if the main concious motivation is to help a fellow student, my unconcious may be playing tricks on me. I have no answer. Finally after staring to my screen for a while, she is gone.

And I've been feeling bad the whole day. I'm quite sure that I went at it the most awful way possible, as I both showed that I saw her pain (maybe not leaving her in thelevel of solitude that she might've wanted) nor acting upon it (maybe not giving her the support that se may have needed in a bad place). I don't like being in a position where I may have incremented her pain.
You weren't under any obligations to benefit her and she asked nothing of you. Furthermore, going to a total stranger in a time of grief is pretty ridiculous - even homeless people have a social life and usually have friends to turn to. Almost every university student (your assumption, not mine) in the world has a social structure which has allowed them to get into the university in the first place - it's not like a total stranger is needed for consolation.

Lots of people dream of being White Knights these days, and lots of people beat themselves up for not being White Knighty enough to soothe their expanded egos. They fear that if they're not a White Knight they're a Black Knight.

Therefore more young women become Damsels in Distress, to appeal to all the White Knightery going around. So quite possibly she was looking to meet someone, or even "hook up with" someone, as universities are not exactly the most sexually moral places in the world, and was strategically using her sadness to further that goal instead of turning to mom and dad.

When you "failed" to be the White Knight she was "looking for", she moved on, possibly to collect more sadness she's generating through her own duplicity in order to fuel her DiD status, until she successfully captures a White Knight, whose ego can then be super-boosted by his "saving" of the attractive Damsel.

People should just be people, dealing with each other honestly and straightforwardly. Fuck Damsels, fuck White Knights, fuck superheroes, fuck everything within humanity that isn't human.

Good luck to you in the future. You'll be needing it.
Careful there, you might cut someone with all that edge. I couldn't even read it all, it was 3edgy5me


kurokotetsu said:
Well, another social situation thread. I'll expose what happened to me today, and your thoughts are appriciated.

After a class at my university I sat down near a spot that I know has a decent Wi-FI signal, just as I often do. It is quite public place, near classrooms, and a some people go by, but it isn't the more transited place, so I quite like it, as I have a sense of time, while being left alone for the most part. SO after half an hour sitting against a culumn and just messing around (and looking about LCS inner workings) a girl sits opposite of me. I notice her and go on my bussiness, only noticing that she is sniffing. Must be either a cold (a virsu has been floating around) or crying I tell myself. As the Internet isn't that good, I look away form the screen from time to time. Now I'm not great at body language, but her covering her eyes and all around sad look tells me that she is probably really sad. Well, I feel bad for her. And I start thinking, maybe I should go there. I see no friends coming for her, and she may need a kind hand. But people handle giref diferently. I would never show that emotioin public and if someone saw me, I wouldn't like that person coming over, probably thanking their kindness but moving away as fast as possible. But maybe she needs someone just the hear her pain and share it, even if it is a stranger. I'm confused. I constantly look over her wondering what to do. I think she noticed me looking, but didn't mind. If I could only say, she might be even showing a glance that may be that calling for help. But I'm not good at interpretation of others emotions and I'm afraid of hurting her further. I just keep refreshing my browser and playing some causal game. I'm afraid that I may be seeing things that I want to see, as I found since the first moment that I found her atractive, and approaching her to sooth her pain, even if the main concious motivation is to help a fellow student, my unconcious may be playing tricks on me. I have no answer. Finally after staring to my screen for a while, she is gone.

And I've been feeling bad the whole day. I'm quite sure that I went at it the most awful way possible, as I both showed that I saw her pain (maybe not leaving her in thelevel of solitude that she might've wanted) nor acting upon it (maybe not giving her the support that se may have needed in a bad place). I don't like being in a position where I may have incremented her pain.

SO Escapist. Whay would you do if you were in my shoes? What if you were in her place? And what do you think of what I did?
You didn't do anything wrong, but just ignore half the responses in this thread. They're all trying to be "cool" "uncaring" dudes.

If it was me, I would have just said "Hey, is everything alright?"

If she responds honestly and she does feel bad, you're helping someone out, half the time people just want to vent, but they're worried about being judged.

If she tells you to piss off, well then she's just being rude.

If she lies and says she's fine, you tried.

If she says she's fine, just has the sniffles, then there's nothing bad about that either
 

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"White Knight" is a bit of a stretch. The context needs to be taken into account with every situation. Simply showing concern and being compassionate towards another human being shouldn't immediately pin someone as a "white knight", even if said human being is female. That being said, I understand the presumption.

It honestly sounded like the OP wasn't doing anything important or interesting at the time, nothing that couldn't have been interrupted.

I would've said something (introduced myself, asked what's up, etc.) out of sheer interest and boredom. Maybe she'll go fuckin' apeshit and stab me in the chest, suck out a bit of my blood, spit it in my eyes and break my nose before I know what the fuck's going on. That's a fuckin' story.
 

Drake the Dragonheart

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Maybe I am not reading this right, but I think you are making something out of nothing. Still, if you had talked to this person, what is the worst that really could have happened, as others have said? She chews you out? well then you just shrug your shoulders and move on really. Still, I admit I would probably be uneasy in your situation. A crying person is not something I have dealt with frequently.