Oblivion is impossible!

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Rooster Cogburn

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Once you 'get' Oblivion, the game is very easy. I always think about jacking up the difficulty, because it seems I just wade through everything like a tank. In fact, the game is completely broken. I won't spoil (you can look it up easily enough) but there are several glitch-free ways to make your character unstoppable. If it doesn't bother you, just ignore these methods. God mode is only fun to try.

Leveling up by advancing your major skills is great- again, after you 'get it'. I like it a lot more than collecting experience by the kill. The only problems are the way attributes are raised and the level scaling system. Maximizing your stat points is an incredibly tedious and restrictive process. Playing your character your way is what the Elder Scrolls is all about, or so I thought. But it's almost impossible to do that and make the most of attribute point gains. And due to level scaling, a character with bad stats is a bad character, not just a late bloomer. It sounds like these problems are being addressed in Skyrim, but we'll know more on 11/11/11.

But only advanced players need to worry about that stuff. You can do well enough without too much fuss. Follow these rules and you'll do alright:

1. Major in at least one "attack" skill and focus on it (Destruction, Blade, Blunt, Hand-to-hand, Marksman).


2. Avoid Majoring in Athletics and Acrobatics. They increase too quickly. You will end up a level 20 character with level 10 fighting skills. And due to level scaling, you'll be fighting level 20 monsters. Some other good choices for Secondary Skills (even if you intend to use them) are Armorer and Alchemy.


3. Use everything at your disposal. You have weapons, armor, repair hammers, potions, spells, scrolls, Minor/Major Powers, enchants, poisons, sneak, and a bunch of cool stuff I won't even mention to back you up. I have so many items and abilities to rely on I never get around to using them all. If you're having a hard time, look through your magic and item menus until you find something useful. And in the future, come prepared.
 

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madwarper said:
Duskflamer said:
Signa said:
4> Enchant dagger with Drain 100HP for 1 second, Soul Trap 1 Second, Weakness to Magicka 100% for 1 second
Problem: you can only enchant an item with one magic effect at a time.
You're only half right.

You can only enchant Armor/Clothing with one effect.
You can put multiple effects on weapons/spells.
Really? Even with weapons I've noticed the options for enchantments disappearing once I selected one...maybe I'm misremembering and/or my game is bugging on me.
 

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Tips: Lower the defficulty, Use blade, block , and armoror as main skills. Make your own costom class. And get it for the PC because mods and cheats are awsome.
 

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I really can't believe loads of people here think Oblivion is hard, on the default difficulty with no mods, Oblivion has got to be one of the easiest games I've played, I spent the first quarter of the game and the entire gladiatorial arena just punching things to death it was that easy. Also, if it is really that difficult, just turn the difficulty down.
 

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Yea I had a really hard time with the game when I first started. Lowering the difficulty helped me learn the combat more easily and then I was able to increase the difficulty and continue playing normally. Awesome game FYI. I need to play it and beat it before Skyrim.
 

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So I bought Oblivion friday (late to the party, I know) because I was looking forward to Skyrim without ever playing a Elder Scroll game. I figured I'd check it out before I paid for Skyrim.
In short, I hate it. The combat is wierd. Why don't enimies has health bars? And whats up the with leveling system? I don't get expirience from killing things? You're telling me I can level up by increasing my acrobatics skill 10 times?
And why is it SO hard? I'm at the FIRST Oblivion gate! It's impossible. I got there at level 2 (because it's the second fukin mission) and now I'm level 4 and still can't come close to beating it. I have a iron bow and steel arrows, and a "fine steel longsword" I'm Aprentice in Archery and Blade. Why do people like this game? I think it will be the first game I give up on due to difficulty in years. Atleast I only spent $20 bucks on it.
Edit: Hey guys, thanks for all the replies. I was going to give another shot anyway, but for sure I'm going to lower the difficulty. Apparently archery sucks and or requires too much stratgie. I'll still to my blades and forget about archery all together. Does anyone know if there is a follower that could help me out this early?
Ok a couple of bits of advice. First of all they enemies do have health bars. When you point your cursor at an enemy and strike it, a small bar under the cursor decreases.

Second, I'd recommend exploring the world for a bit before you go to an Oblivion gate, as you can't leave it until you're done. I'd recommend first joining the guilds, then taking all the dosh you can carry from each of those locations, then sell whatever you won't be using right away (this will give you cashflow, and you'll stock up on some decent gear for low level characters. Seriously, without doing a thing, you can get steel/chainmail armor and silver weapons for nothing)

Third, if you find yourself low on health after each battle, you can use the wait function to restore your health without needing potions, so you won't be drained so much.

Fourth, archery only really works if you're a stealth character, as at higher skill levels, you can bash through even the toughest enemies without them even knowing where you are

And finally fifth, (though this was covered a bit before in point 2) explore. There's a lot of things you can do in the game that don't require you to go through the main plot, and in my opinion, are more fun (and dosh-rewarding) than it.
 

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oblivion is easy and there is a health bar, you also must level up your major skill to increase in your level. if you cant play oblivion u cant play skyrim but u should buy skyrim and return it if u suck at it as well.
 

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Duskflamer said:
Signa said:
1> Get soul trap, drain health, weakness to magicka spells
2> Get Asura's Star
3> Join Mage's guild to access enchanting
4> Enchant dagger with Drain 100HP for 1 second, Soul Trap 1 Second, Weakness to Magicka 100% for 1 second

Win game.

I'm sure a lot of that doesn't make sense at first glance, but all it takes is just hunting for those few spells (faqs and wikis will help you) and a common iron dagger to win the game. Every strike you land on an enemy momentarily reduces his HP, but every strike after (if within 1 second) reduces it by 2x the last strike. First it's -200HP, then -400, then -800, -1600.... it doesn't take much to kill the strongest enemies in the game. And the soul trap effect will allow you to keep this going for every non-human/humanlike demon you kill.
Problem: you can only enchant an item with one magic effect at a time. You could make a spell with that effect but then you'd be constrained by your magicka.
Incorrect. Unless it was a silent addition by a mod, you can add up to eight effects if you are enchanting a weapon. The spell becomes "casts on strike" instead of "constant effect".

Oh wait, I remember now, the wiki itself told me how to do this. It's part of the official game
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One problem: I'm not magic oriented at all.
Not a problem. There really isn't much need to be oriented in a class at all in Oblivion. I had NO stealth skills, and I still became head of the thief's guild. To get into the Mage's guild, you just do a few random quests, most completable as simple "go here and fetch" or at worse "kill these monsters" which can be done with a sword. You still can cast spells as a fighter, and the only spell you might have to worry about casting EVER is the first soul trap to capture a soul to enchant your weapon. That's not even necessary since most dungeons give you free full soul gems anyway (or was that a mod? Dunno).
 

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While I love the game, there admittedly ARE a lot of things about it that are ridiculously unbalanced, which is a shame, and I hope they work on those issues for Skyrim.
 

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Use "uesp wiki" (unoffical elder scrolls pages)

It helps you with basically anything you don't know about such as quests and glitches that have prevented you from doing certain things...

It also has a page of glitches and exploits to make the game a lot easier but that sucks the fun out.

When you get the hang of the game you can make a great character and play on default and still have barrels of fun :)
 

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ok first off Oblivion is an amazing game once you get into it, getting into it is not easy but heres a few tips
1. screw the main questlines for awhile, explore, get into a few guilds, stab a hobo in the back, kick some ass in the arena, do whatever you want.
2. be prepared to ditch your first character build, especially if this is your first Elder Scrolls experience, your going to get to a point and say "why the hell did i put (useless hateful skill) in my top 7!" but by then youll know the game much better and be prepared to make a character thats more suited to you.
3. just remember that this is a huge game world you get to explore so so do it in your own way. there's a ton of stuff to see and do and the game lets you do it all in the way you want. not much for stealth? then grab a battle axe and just run straight in. not one for fireballs? get a sword, or even better start hurling lightning bolts and summoning skeletons. play the game in your own way.
4. Join the Dark Brotherhood :)
 

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People have been talking about dealing with the level scaling, and I would like to point out that you can choose to never sleep, and therefore your level will never go up. It might be a ***** in early levels if you don't have a way to restore you health, but if you just abuse that starter healing spell until you can get something more beefy, you can just never sleep. Even after leveling your major skills 90 times, if you never sleep, you will never level up. The down side is that no loot will scale with you either, so don't expect to see anything cool on enemies for a while.

One thing to consider while making a character is the Atronach star sign. It seems caster oriented, and it might be a little abusive to noobs since it removes your ability to mana regen, but it also completely negates 50% of all spells cast on you. That's an advantage (especially in Oblivion) that any character class can take advantage of. I used it early levels to play "Mirror's Edge" in Oblivion. I'd run past everything, and even jump off the sides of towers if I needed to as if I was playing Mirror's edge. 50% of all spells wouldn't damage me, and I could heal myself as I ran because when the spells hurt, I'd have the absorbed mana to continue healing and running.
 

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Lower the difficulty and join a few guilds. Eventually you'll get the hang of it and be ready to increase the difficulty again.
 

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Duskflamer said:
madwarper said:
You can only enchant Armor/Clothing with one effect.
You can put multiple effects on weapons/spells.
Really? Even with weapons I've noticed the options for enchantments disappearing once I selected one...maybe I'm misremembering and/or my game is bugging on me.
Really.

Though, it's possible that you possible hit the button to remove the existing enchant when trying to add a second.
 

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Lol, I'm one of the few people who loves vanilla Oblivion I guess.

I hate the mods.
*High Fives*

The only thing i would like more for the vanilla version is if the spells looked more unique.

Good thing that's gonna be better with Skyrim

 

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Generic Gamer said:
...Is this...is it real?

1. The enemies have health bars, it's that curved line above your crosshairs.

2. You level up from your class' main skills. Select something with the skills you intend to actually use as primary skills. It's not experience for killing things, since when does bashing a dude to death teach you how to raise the dead? It's how often you use the skill that levels it up.

3. Bows and arrows are recognised to be the trickiest weapons. If you want a cakewalk load up a mage.
This. Oblivion wasn't as good as Morrowind, but it's far from a bad game. You JUST picked it up, don't understand things yet, and there is a learning curve. Not to mention it follows the school of thought of "Learn or die." It's challenging, as it should be.

Only thing I'd recommend is downloading one of the many mods to fix stat progression on leveling. The old system had a major issue of shoehorning you into skilling shit you won't use just to get the max stat bonus. (A system that isn't a problem at your level, but higher gameplay rears it's ugly head as suddenly shit caves your face in)
 

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Check the wiki. The fist time players section is really helpful (even if you are not a first time player) http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:First_Time_Players

Also, I have put over 150 hours into the game before I got around to doing the main quest.
 

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Not to be insulting but really? Oblivion, hard? Morrowind is hard you try to conquer dungeons at level 1 oblivion can be hard only if you pick bad main attributes ( which you probably did )

Oblivion is great, keep at it, man up, eventually switch it to hard or so, have fun or don't play games brah. Well okay I was too harsh, if you are not a gaming "expert" of 10+ years I can somehow slightly consider considering Oblivion as challenging at first... maybe.