Oblivion: The Best Game Ever!
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It was awesome. But I don't think it was the best game ever for hard to explain reasons that probably only hinge on personal preference.
There is no "Best Game Ever." I liked unmodded fallout 3 much better than oblivion, even with it's best mods. I found unmodded oblivion almost unplayable.
As long as people have different things they are looking for in a game there can be no best game ever.
As long as people have different things they are looking for in a game there can be no best game ever.
It's not near "the best game ever."
If anything deserves that title (but nothing actually does), it's ROGUE.
Oblivion's only redeeming feature for me was the dungeon crawling (and the physics, I just love physics so much in games). I really liked it (even if the dungeons were made of set-pieces arranged differently each time, I liked it. It was the best modern dungeon crawling I'd experienced so far). (ROGUE isn't modern, but if it were, (it would be the messiah of action "RPG"s) it would be the best modern dungeon crawling I would experience.)
I could be wrong, though, since when I tried to play Morrowind on the XBox, it was boring as hell, and when I tried to play it on my computer (not the XBox disc, I had both versions) my computer turned the disc into three parts of a disc. I don't have much experience with Morrowind's dungeons. Perhaps I should go torrent it... I'm such a dirty pirate...
If anything deserves that title (but nothing actually does), it's ROGUE.
Oblivion's only redeeming feature for me was the dungeon crawling (and the physics, I just love physics so much in games). I really liked it (even if the dungeons were made of set-pieces arranged differently each time, I liked it. It was the best modern dungeon crawling I'd experienced so far). (ROGUE isn't modern, but if it were, (it would be the messiah of action "RPG"s) it would be the best modern dungeon crawling I would experience.)
I could be wrong, though, since when I tried to play Morrowind on the XBox, it was boring as hell, and when I tried to play it on my computer (not the XBox disc, I had both versions) my computer turned the disc into three parts of a disc. I don't have much experience with Morrowind's dungeons. Perhaps I should go torrent it... I'm such a dirty pirate...
Neither. They're mostly exploring with occasional bits of RPG and action.Azeban said:
That being said, I think Oblivion has so many glaring flaws that it doesn't rightly deserve the title of "best" anything--GOTHIC was better than Oblivion. However, it is a worthy game and I still play it on occasion, I just wish the plot wasn't so horribly contrived.
Well...
So, yeah, I'm sick of Elder Scrolls IV... but looking forward to Elder Scrolls V.
I think it'd be awesome of Elder Scrolls had more dynamic content (e.g. rise and fall of cities) and combat mechanics comparable to Dark Messiah of Might & Magic.
Oblivion's current mechanics, to a great degree, suck.
- [li]The combat has overly-cumbersome (for their influence) power attacks, weak blocking, and poor hitpoint balance that requires dozens of blows to take down opponents at higher levels.[/li]
[li]The stealth goes from hidden to detected instantly, with no round-the-corner peering, no visibility gem (though clothing and lighting is a factor) essentially a very poor stealth game implementation.[/li]
[li]The spells are overly generic "inflict x pts of y element" artificial-feeling garbage, and often too inefficient to lean on before you're out of mana (partly due to the previously-mentioned hitpoint balance) with several effects (such as spell reflection or attribute drains) as neigh-useless. [/li]
So, yeah, I'm sick of Elder Scrolls IV... but looking forward to Elder Scrolls V.
I think it'd be awesome of Elder Scrolls had more dynamic content (e.g. rise and fall of cities) and combat mechanics comparable to Dark Messiah of Might & Magic.
Personally, I like oblivion more because it had a higher replay value. You really cant do much with Fallout because you NEED small guns and lock picking as two of your perks so you only have one to really choose. And I STILL play Morrowind, the same can't be said for Oblivion.
And why aren't The elder scrolls on steam?
And why aren't The elder scrolls on steam?
The point of these types of games isn't really the ending, though. Besides, Oblivions entire storyline was pretty weak, including the end. The first time I beat it, I couldn't believe it was over already. But, I don't hold that against Oblivion, since like I said the point isn't really about the ending.Danprezco said:
The problem is, in order to get Oblivion to a state of awesomeness, you need to mod it until it's practically a different game. I give props to Bethesda for allowing Oblivion to be so modifiable, though.
It was a fine game. In fact, just recently I've installed it so I can play a mage this time through (first time as a Spellsword and second time was a thief-like character.)
But, I definitely couldn't say it's the best game ever made. Morrowind's architecture, setting, and ambiance showed me what Bethesda was capable of and they let me down in those aspects with Oblivion.
Two of your three criticisms can be easily fixed by adjusting the difficulty slider, and round-the-corner peering is handled easily by third-person perspective.geldonyetich said:
Gothic 3? I loved Gothic 1 and 2, but come on, 3 was pretty much garbage. When it was released it was pretty unplayable with its game-stopping bugs. Community patches have helped the game immensely, but the combat still leaves a lot to be desired and there isn't a whole lot of room for any actual "role-play". And the expansion is nothing but horrible.JMeganSnow said:
I mean when Jowood apologies for Gothic 3 and has to promise not to screw up 4, that's a pretty bad sign.
Not that Oblivion was gods gift to games, it wasn't, by far. But Gothic 3 was a helluva lot more disappointing then that game.
Nono, if you wanted to quote Hot Fuzz, it's "Yarp".Vivaldi said:
And no, I do not think that Oblivion was the best game ever. I preferred the zany antics of Saint's Row 2 better, to be honest. Not to mention the lack of imagination when it came to the beastiary of Oblivion.
The difficulty slider adjusts more than the enemies hitpoints - I'd end up completely unchallenged by turning it down enough that it no longer takes 50 arrows to down an a higher level mob. The third person round-the-corner peering is an unrealistic looking and rather crude workaround.JMeganSnow said:
I said Gothic, i.e. the first one (and best one, despite the awkward controls). There is no such game as "Gothic 1", and JoWood apologized for the Gothic 3 *expansion*, not the entire game.runtheplacered said:
I found Oblivion (and in turn Fallout 3) to be nowhere near being the best game ever.
These games lack anything in the way of direction or purpose, if you are on a vital quest to save to world and it's peoples from immiment doom then why have you stopped off to join the local gentleman's club/settle a domestic dispute/appease an ancient god?
People who defend this will often state that it's not the leveling up and the rewards that you play the game for, but the experience and the journey. I call critisism to this due to the simple fact that anyone who shells out between £20-£50 for a game just to travel and see the world has severe social issues and could be referred to as a 'social pariah', when normal people want to travel and see the world they go to other countries like France or Italy to see the famous landmarks and bask in the serene beauty of the world (unless you are french or italian in which case you go elsewhere and do the same), they don't buy a game and stay at home in a darkened room.
Since this justifacation can be thrown out the window what other reward are we given for playing these games? 1000 gamerpoints that don't really do anything and a mediocre set of equipment and stats that shouts 'I'm not a people person' (in all fairness neither am I, but there is a point where it becomes unhealthy and a tad bit frightening).
These games lack anything in the way of direction or purpose, if you are on a vital quest to save to world and it's peoples from immiment doom then why have you stopped off to join the local gentleman's club/settle a domestic dispute/appease an ancient god?
People who defend this will often state that it's not the leveling up and the rewards that you play the game for, but the experience and the journey. I call critisism to this due to the simple fact that anyone who shells out between £20-£50 for a game just to travel and see the world has severe social issues and could be referred to as a 'social pariah', when normal people want to travel and see the world they go to other countries like France or Italy to see the famous landmarks and bask in the serene beauty of the world (unless you are french or italian in which case you go elsewhere and do the same), they don't buy a game and stay at home in a darkened room.
Since this justifacation can be thrown out the window what other reward are we given for playing these games? 1000 gamerpoints that don't really do anything and a mediocre set of equipment and stats that shouts 'I'm not a people person' (in all fairness neither am I, but there is a point where it becomes unhealthy and a tad bit frightening).