OFFICIAL PS4 SPECS

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Vault101 said:
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Going to be released internationally (from Australia) within 6 months.
its coming out within 6 motnhs? whoa
Apparently maybe not. The end of the conference said "Holiday 2013". So it could be later, but yeah, that's what I've heard.
 

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ResonanceSD said:
Yeah if you read what I write properly, you'll see that I'm saying that there's no point in saying "look at my awesome hardware" when it's going to be a) inferior in a very short timeframe and b) "bog standard" for PCs about mid last year.
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*facepalm* of coarse there is! console gamers do actually care about what the systm is capable of....they arent neanderthals banging rocks together you know
 

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Here's hoping the HD is as easily swappable as in the PS3. I just stuck a 500GB in my old backward-compatible tombstone model. When this comes out, if I get it, I'll be swapping HDs again.
 

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Vault101 said:
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Yeah if you read what I write properly, you'll see that I'm saying that there's no point in saying "look at my awesome hardware" when it's going to be a) inferior in a very short timeframe and b) "bog standard" for PCs about mid last year.
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*facepalm* of coarse there is! console gamers do actually care about what the systm is capable of....they arent neanderthals banging rocks together you know
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Are you writing this on a phone?




If console gamers truly cared what their hardware was capable of, they'd buy a pc. Otherwise it's just window dressing which will never affect them because console titles are made for an identical set of SKUs.
 

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Definitely getting me a PS4. I'm also planning on getting a Wii U, as well as a 720.

As far as comparisons go with the Wii U, don't bother. Each is its own, singular experience. Except for Bethesda games. Goddamn BUG GENERATING--I digress. I am calm. I am--I can't wait to see Bethesda's conference on the brand new technical glitches they plan for this year--no, I am like a reed, bending in the wind.
 

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FizzyIzze said:
Definitely getting me a PS4. I'm also planning on getting a Wii U, as well as a 720.

As far as comparisons go with the Wii U, don't bother. Each is its own, singular experience. Except for Bethesda games. Goddamn BUG GENERATING--I digress. I am calm. I am--I can't wait to see Bethesda's conference on the brand new technical glitches they plan for this year--no, I am like a reed, bending in the wind.

Better than being a leaf floating on the wind.



Because then right before you get killed, a Bethesda Bug shows up and forces you to restart the level.
 

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ResonanceSD said:
If console gamers truly cared what their hardware was capable of, they'd buy a pc. Otherwise it's just window dressing which will never affect them because console titles are made for an identical set of SKUs.
yeah sure, in a world where everybody was really knowegable about tech specs, in a world where everyone was willing to put whatever effort/money needed to get a gaming PC, in a world where people didnt follow stupid brand loyalty, in a world where those 12 year old COD players rely on their parents to get the console

we dont live in that world

aside from the fact there may be some legitimate reasons for going console over PC saying it doesnt matter is fucking rediculous, it does matter people want to know what a console is capable of

also saying "PC will be better" is like saying the sky is blue
 

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Stavros Dimou said:
Korten12 said:
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How is the specs compared to current PCs?
its like somewhere between the mainstream and enthusiast setup,more leaning to the high end.
the demos shown remind of the quality battlefield 3 and crysis 2 have on ultra on pc.
How is it compared to the Wii U?
way more powerful than wiiu.
the same kind of difference wii had with ps3.
No it's not(not it being more powerful, how much) cause truth be told, the specs here only scratch the surface. While I can't argue anything with the ram(8 gigs is 8 gigs stock or not), the others offer nothing for info.

While it is a Bulldozer Cpu, how clocked will it be, can we expect stock clocks or are they going under to prevent heat issues? That fact it ain't the Piledriver which fixes a lot of Bulldozer's problem concerns me as well.

It's the same with the GPU, we have a guess that it is a HD7xxx, but where do we sit? if it's anywhere near 7670(which is a 6670) with a buffed up memory, it isn't going to be as far away from the Wii-U as your making it to be.

Yes this machine is more powerful but it isn't going to be any where close to what The Wii to PS3 was, not even close.
 

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
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Vault101 said:
its a sports car...the wii u is a volkswagon

honestly that thing was going to be "underpowered" straight out the gate
Kind of funny... I remember being told that the PS4 wouldn't be that much more powerful than the Wii U. Only a little bit more powerful.
Yeah, that's because people were assuming Sony would actually start acting financially responsibly.

This new console could bankrupt them.
Could. I could get stuck by lighting, doesn't mean I will. You can argue about how it could. But until we get specifics there isn't much to argue against it. You say they're going to be making a loss. But how do you know? Oh wait, you don't. I don't either.
 

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
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Could. I could get stuck by lighting, doesn't mean I will. You can argue about how it could. But until we get specifics there isn't much to argue against it. You say they're going to be making a loss. But how do you know? Oh wait, you don't. I don't either.
Take a look at those specs. Point out to me any components that aren't ridiculously expensive. They are going to be expensive to source. Therefore, Sony is going to have to spend a lot of money in order to source them. Which means they either sell the PS4 at a higher price, or they lose a load of money on each console.

Your lightning analogy is ridiculous. Lightning is an inherently random, unpredictable thing. Sony's financial decline, on the other hand, has been entirely predictable. They have tried time and again to win the market by pushing expensive loss-leading tech, and it hasn't worked. The PS3, PSP, and Vita all lost marketshare to their competitors. If you look at every console trend going back to the SNES, the most powerful console never wins the generation. It is an entirely predictable trend, something that has been true for nearly twenty years.

Sony has achieved nothing by betting the farm yet again on bleeding edge technology. All they're going to do is continue the same economic strategy which has seen them lose their place as the king of consumer electronics. And sooner or later, it's going to bite them in the ass.
Really? Your getting on the lighting thing? That was just something I used. I am not saying anything about lighting it self. I was talking about, Could. Could means there is two ways. I could, or I don't. It may happen or it may not. I could go out and get a job and get money, or don't and don't get any money. Does that work better for you?

Your argument seems to say could, but then speaks of definite. That you know the exact specifications of Sony's finanical situation. You also seem to know how much all of it is costing them before it even gets a price announcement.

What happens if they sell it at $300 or $250 and have no loss? What then? Now could they sell at a loss? Possibly, but no point trying to put down Sony based on the limited knowledge we have.

Stop trying to own up to Nintendo and think they're the best. I understand you hate Sony and Playstation, don't need to keep trying to make assumptions to fuel arguments. Until you show me exactly how much the Playstation 4 will cost, and all of it's parts and if they will sell at a loss or not. You hold no arguement.
 

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ResonanceSD said:
EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME

Sony goes "ooh, look how shiny the specs are"

and then developers have to spend time polishing graphics instead of actually making fun games.
In fairness, this system is probably going to be a hell of a lot easier to develop games for than the PS3, because it's actually using hardware that's similar to what developers are used to working with. The PS3's cell architecture, although quite powerful, was basically unlike any other processor out there, making it a total ***** to work with. This was compounded by the fact that there was very little documentation for the thing, making a total ***** of a system to work with an absolute nightmare.
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Even the best looking PC games are nowhere near as pretty as the graphics they had shown on the PS4. I have no idea where these games you think rival it's graphics are, but I would love to have the list.

Mind you PC games have also been hitting a ceiling as they still cater to lower graphics cards and not the top-most high end ones that a few of us have.
The thing is, very little, if any, of the stuff that has been shown here is representative of what games on the system will actually look like, especially at launch. A lot of the stuff shown was straight up tech demos, which always look far, far better than the games actually do. And for the things that were for sure actual games, a lot of the things were almost certainly pre-rendered (Deep Down and Infamous, specifically), and it's impossible to tell how representative the rest of the things were to the final gameplay, because publishers have been known to disguise pre-rendered stuff as actual gameplay (including Sony with Killzone 2 at the PS3 announcement).

Basically, the only game I can say with any certainty that the graphics are representative of the final product is The Witness, because I've seen screenshots of it before and people have actually had a chance to sit down and play it. I'm also inclined to give Driveclub the benefit of the doubt, because it's relatively easy to make cars look near photorealistic, and I wouldn't be too surprised if Watch Dogs looks similar to what we were shown.

Anyway, aside from all that, I do actually think the specs look pretty good. The more PC-like architecture is a very, very good thing, and the large amount of RAM pleases me greatly. The only real question marks are the processor and gpu, but I'm not too worried based on what we've already seen.
 

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Capitano Segnaposto said:
ResonanceSD said:
EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME

Sony goes "ooh, look how shiny the specs are"

and then developers have to spend time polishing graphics instead of actually making fun games.

Meanwhile, an average PC is already equalling this. most gaming dedicated machines (like, you know, consoles) are already higher specced than this.

Stavros Dimou said:
comparable to modern high end pcs.
yeah if by comparable you go "look at what we were doing two years ago!" as a way of telling Sony to stop being so stupid.
Even the best looking PC games are nowhere near as pretty as the graphics they had shown on the PS4. I have no idea where these games you think rival it's graphics are, but I would love to have the list.

Mind you PC games have also been hitting a ceiling as they still cater to lower graphics cards and not the top-most high end ones that a few of us have.

And you can blame the console cycle for that.

However, to prove you wrong. Crank up Crysis 3 to it's highest settings on a PC

then run it on a PS3.

then tell me what the difference is.