OFFICIAL PS4 SPECS

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Vault101

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Capitano Segnaposto said:
Even the best looking PC games are nowhere near as pretty as the graphics they had shown on the PS4.
Id say thats likley because most games on PC are also on current gen consoles...not many take advantage of high end hardware
 

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ohnoitsabear said:
The thing is, very little, if any, of the stuff that has been shown here is representative of what games on the system will actually look like, especially at launch. A lot of the stuff shown was straight up tech demos, which always look far, far better than the games actually do. And for the things that were for sure actual games, a lot of the things were almost certainly pre-rendered (Deep Down and Infamous, specifically), and it's impossible to tell how representative the rest of the things were to the final gameplay, because publishers have been known to disguise pre-rendered stuff as actual gameplay (including Sony with Killzone 2 at the PS3 announcement).
Not to mention the old chestnut of actually running things off a highend PC or workstation and letting people just assume it's running off a console.
 

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ResonanceSD said:
And you can blame the console cycle for that.

However, to prove you wrong. Crank up Crysis 3 to it's highest settings on a PC

then run it on a PS3.

then tell me what the difference is.
I game almost exclusively on my relatively high-end computer, but I'm still capable of recognizing the faults of the platform.

Here's a hint: my $500 gpu isn't a $500 gpu - not for most developers. Rather, my gpu is somewhere between the one listed on the box and the average gpu inside the average computer.

PS4 represents an enormous step forward for video game graphics. Just because it happens to be through economic imperatives (instead of raw hardware strength) doesn't make it any less so.
 

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You'd think PC gamers would be happy that the arcane architecture of the PS3 would be exchanged for something people would be more able to develop for. A new console generation will benefit cross-platform PC games quite a bit, at the very least in he short term. Colour me optimistic.

FieryTrainwreck said:
PS4 represents an enormous step forward for video game graphics. Just because it happens to be through economic imperatives (instead of raw hardware strength) doesn't make it any less so.
Thank you.
 

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The once specification I'm really interested in them revealing is the max supported screen resolution. There were early rumors that it will support 4096×2160 natively, which will be the new standard for TVs in a few year years. HDMI v4 and most mid - high end AV receivers already support this resolution, so PS4 (and the new Xbox) will need this if they want to become future proof.
 

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Arina Love said:
don't forget that ram is not you PC DDR3 ram it's DDR5 superior tech.
no its not.

its GDDR5. DDR5 doesn't exist. GDDR5 is based on DDR3 but tuned for higher throughput. But it sacrifices access latency. which is good for the GPU because its constantly streaming data but bad for the CPU. the fact that the CPU has to use GDDR5 instead of DDR3 is going the make the machine slower, not faster.

that is why video cards have been using GDDR5 since 2008, but chipsets have stuck to DDR3, because each is best suited for different jobs.
 

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
Instead, they're blowing more money they don't have on tech they can't afford to sell. Sure, the hardcore tech folks will be happy. But from a financial perspective, this is ludicrous. Even if they sell this thing at $600, they're going to be making a loss. They're actively throwing money down the drain, just so that they can say they're at the cutting edge of technology. Just like their TV engineers and their 4K 3D Tvs...
I know a bunch of folks that are 4K ready already... and I take it 4K software will eventually also be more mainstream than it is today... the only 4K material I've seen so far in its pure 4K glory was red eye youtube stuff, but that's bound to change, I take it.

Bear in mind that early adopters do set flags for the market, much as there would be significantly less games if everyone was to second hand buy or outright pirate games.

Then again, if the industry wouldn't have it so ass backwards with, say, those annoying region locks, there would be much less tinkering. I know I would never have gotten into the hardware side of things if it wouldn't be for region locking systems and drives down. I don't think I would have jailbroken my Iphones if Apple would still allow things like Wifi Analyzer on their App Store. The more they pummel you into brainwashed herded bliss, the more some folks feel like tinkering.

I think the specs make a lot of sense. They match with some the predictions we've been making for at least two years now, so I don't think the PS4 is anywhere near overpowered, if it's supposed to stay for seven years (or more). What makes me really happy is that those specs (if true) would allow for all of us to get out of the tunnel vision hell the anæmic RAM specs of both the PS3 and the 360 have gotten us into.

Some people are convinced that proper programming would break the limitations of 256MB/512MB RAM total, but there's only so little you can do to work around not having enough RAM to throw things on screen and at you. Today's consoles are to be considered locked-down PCs, so they need comparable PC specs to work properly. When you run out of RAM or coding around it isn't enough, things are bound to go haywire. I never want to see things like having to follow the breadcrumb trail with constant blocked vision or the PS3 Skyrim debacle just because our consoles of the now were dreamed up when Windows XP was the go-to system of the day. That shit is old, man. Oh, I also wasn't that blown away by megatextures or gigatextures and the constant pop-in of some of the more fast-paced, action-oriented titles of late. That pop-in gets old really soon, as in instantly.

Captcha: jay gatsby - really?
 

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ResonanceSD said:
EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME

Sony goes "ooh, look how shiny the specs are"

and then developers have to spend time polishing graphics instead of actually making fun games.

Meanwhile, an average PC is already equalling this. most gaming dedicated machines (like, you know, consoles) are already higher specced than this.

Stavros Dimou said:
comparable to modern high end pcs.
yeah if by comparable you go "look at what we were doing two years ago!" as a way of telling Sony to stop being so stupid.
That has only been true on past consoles because of sony using their own in-house architecture. These are off the shelf pc parts basically so more time can be spent on making the game fun and less time making the game work.

Then you go on to complain because of the decent specs devs will spend too much time polishing graphics, but say the average PC has these specs, contradict much? I know several pc gamers and we are all rocking quad cores still and the relative mid range graphics cards (gtx560ti/660ti), and even if they were in the average pc since last year how many devs have made games that take full advantage of that power? 1 game by my count and it was only released this week. At least now the consoles are rocking similar specs we can expect alot more games to take full advantage. So stop your whining please. You sound like a PC elitist
 

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Meh, I stopped caring about this kind of stuff in the Gamecube era. (Remember the Gamecube? That weak little console that ran RE4, Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime, Rogue Squadron, and other games that looked borderline current gen.) What matters isn't the technology, it's what developers do with it.
 

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Will the all-important games be any good? Also, I'm curious about the price range. How much would a PC go for with those specs?
 

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GundamSentinel said:
You'd think PC gamers would be happy that the arcane architecture of the PS3 would be exchanged for something people would be more able to develop for. A new console generation will benefit cross-platform PC games quite a bit, at the very least in he short term. Colour me optimistic.

FieryTrainwreck said:
PS4 represents an enormous step forward for video game graphics. Just because it happens to be through economic imperatives (instead of raw hardware strength) doesn't make it any less so.
Thank you.
Unfortunately the elitists beat the moderates here, I as an almost exclusively PC gamer, am happy about this.

From the Killzone bit I can hope that we may see the end of the muddy brown shooter too, that'd be nice..
 

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Very impressed by the specs but boy is that going to cost a lot.

If Sony release it at a price people consider reasonable for a console, they are going to be taking a massive hit per unit.

This is a real risk for them in the current financial climate. If it fails, it could end up bringing Sony as a whole down.
 

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As consoles continue to get more and more powerful and hi-tech, I can't help but worry the risk of them breaking in any number of ways is going to be higher than ever.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Ah, yes, but does it have red LEDs?

My PC has red LEDs.

Beat that, Sony.
***** plz, Sony don't settle for Red LEDs.. they go all out for blue ones.

Super shiny blue ones.

OT : Hmmmm, so nothing of surprise was gained from this?
 

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The specs are mostly irrelevant part to a console. Now games.....real games, real footage of gameplay, that is all a care about. They can boast all they want about power, but if all we get are shiny versions of last gen games then whats the point in a new gen console? Off the top of my head, what about a new GT game with full realistic car damage and cockpit view for every car? What about a more open world WW2 shooter that isnt based on corridors. I mean if they can do that with Far Cry 3 and Fallout 3 - why not a WW2 based game in a destroyed german controlled city? Use the power to make games more epic in scale, not just for shinier graphics.
 

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OlasDAlmighty said:
Meh, I stopped caring about this kind of stuff in the Gamecube era. (Remember the Gamecube? That weak little console that ran RE4, Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime, Rogue Squadron, and other games that looked borderline current gen.) What matters isn't the technology, it's what developers do with it.
to be honest i always regretted selling my GameCube, it had so many good games on it


Flaery said:
Will the all-important games be any good? Also, I'm curious about the price range. How much would a PC go for with those specs?
If your a good bargain hunter and/or know what your looking for you can get it for anywhere between £400-£600 which is how much the ps4 is likely to cost, but also keep in mind 6-8 months from now that computer will be cheaper but the PS4 will still be at its high price point