Oh dear god (graphic animal cruelty)

[GraveeKing]

How did that animal survive being skinned without bleeding to death within 5 seconds? This seems to defy all logic.

Multiple layers of skin I'd assume - a couple to grow the fur on and one beneath that. If you were wondering if this is fake, I really really don't think it is. I know it's hard to believe but some people just.... It's wrong.

I mean I don't mean to go on about this or anything but, surely they could at least KILL the animal once they got it's fur and everything, not that I approve of it dying like that anyway.

Geez how fucking expensive can 1 lethal shot be - or I mean come ON chop of it's head or something, I know you don't want Blood on the fur but.... My god this is wrong. Just so wrong, they skinned it alive literally. It was still moving afterwards.... It had no skin and was still moving.... JESUS it's just...
I'm utterly speechless. Is there some kind of pension I can sign or exact charity I can donate to, to stop this treatment exactly - that's the worse shit I've seen in a long time. Dear Christ.... I am NEVER wearing fur.

 

[Macrobstar]

jesus christ just put the thing out of its fucking misery! I think I'm gonna be sick

 

[Biodeamon]

damn. flagged.

A well, i'd probably piss people off anyways with my comments...Supporting Lulzsec is enough for one day....

So what are you people going to do anyways, hmmm?

just sit hear and talk about it or actually take action?

 

[Blaster395]

How did that animal survive being skinned without bleeding to death within 5 seconds? This seems to defy all logic.

Multiple layers of skin I'd assume - a couple to grow the fur on and one beneath that. If you were wondering if this is fake, I really really don't think it is. I know it's hard to believe but some people just.... It's wrong.

Of course the idea of there being multiple layers of skin is kind of destroyed by various muscles being visible, most prominently on the face...

Not saying that this is fake, just unusual.

Also its completely retarded for anyone to do that. Even people who are complete monsters would realize its easier to skin an animal when its dead.

 

[Panda Mania]

That is...not right. Simple humanity tells us so.

But is it just me, or do we seem to care about animals much more than a lot of other parts of the world? It's weird. Animals, notably dogs, are practically dirt in some cultures...there's no such thing as PETA; animal-lovers are very scarce indeed. Perhaps it has to do with the increased threat on human life, and just prioritizing as the chips are down... :\

 

[rembrandtqeinstein]

Yeah, animal welfare never really took off in China...

The Chinese culture is fundamentally corrupt and broken. There was no enlightenment so there is no concept of individual worth and empathy is considered to be a weakness. According to the culture as long as the action makes a person more useful in the eyes of their "superiors" then it is acceptable. The notion of "right and wrong" is entirely dictated by approval or disapproval of the next level of the hierarchy. In a way it is similar to the fictional Drow culture of RA Salvatore where the only crime is getting caught.

In this case skinning animals alive is the cheapest way to extract the skins. The superiors approve so the action is considered morally correct.

 

[Blaster395]

That is...not right. Simple humanity tells us so.

But is it just me, or do we seem to care about animals much more than a lot of other parts of the world? It's weird. Animals, notably dogs, are practically dirt in some cultures...there's no such thing as PETA; animal-lovers are very scarce indeed. Perhaps it has to do with the increased threat on human life, and just prioritizing as the chips are down... :\

Forgetting the fact that PETA kills 97% of the pets it takes in...

 

[Galduke]

A relative of mine wrote a book and in it detailed how his grandfather (I think) would knock-out a bull, skin it, and when it came to it would freak out and rampage wherever he left it. He used this as a way to scare off indians (or whatever term is correct) in mexico. The book is in Spanish so I'm taking my father's word for it.

 

[Harbinger_]

You see I used to hunt animals with my father and the first thing he taught me was if you're going to kill something then make sure it doesn't suffer. We used to sell the fur and eat the meat so its not like it was something stupid like sport hunting. What these.... I don't even want to call them human are doing gives a bad rep to anyone who deals in fur.

 

[Thundero13]

Ok now seriously? there's an easy way for to make a compromise, you just need to get the people incharge & the sane version of PETA to have a conversation, it could go like this *how about you don't let people treat animals badly, that way there will be less vegetarians because they won't feel bad & that way more people will buy meat* *that's a good idea, it's a good thing you guys are so much more sensible then PETA* or something like that...

 

[Biodeamon]

Is there even any point to being so cruel? Surely skinning them alive would risk ruining the pelt?

anesthetic costs money. and more for animals. cost cutting. brutual yes.

 

[Liam Barden]

And the fur industry needs to go, it is not essential like meat, and there are not the same ethical restrictions for it as for food livestock.

If meat was truly necessary as you say, all the vegetarians would be dead. Unfortunately, if youre going to eat meat you have to accept that you are contributing to the torture of animals in factory farms for your own convenience, rather than necessity (although i must concede that the average factory farm likely isnt this bad). Millions of people live without it, you can too.
Dont get me wrong, I do eat meat myself. However I at least accept that what im doing is indefensible and plan to stop very soon. I would urge you to perhaps reconsider your position too

 

[The Grim Ace]

As much as I like eating meat, raising anything to be killed is comparable to abuse. Then again, how livestock are raised is different than the fur trade. Might just be my opinion but fur seems pretty tacky anyways, but, there's a market and sadists happen to supply it.

 

[Pumpkin_Eater]

Yeah, animal welfare never really took off in China...

The Chinese culture is fundamentally corrupt and broken. There was no enlightenment so there is no concept of individual worth and empathy is considered to be a weakness. According to the culture as long as the action makes a person more useful in the eyes of their "superiors" then it is acceptable. The notion of "right and wrong" is entirely dictated by approval or disapproval of the next level of the hierarchy. In a way it is similar to the fictional Drow culture of RA Salvatore where the only crime is getting caught.

In this case skinning animals alive is the cheapest way to extract the skins. The superiors approve so the action is considered morally correct.

I attribute that to their form of government; Russia cranks out a sizable amount of violent shock videos as well, and I don't buy the idea that a recently reformed Marxist country and a currently Marxist country just happen to be the two most violent 'civilized' nations in the world.

 

[Confidingtripod]

I know its horrible to watch but I'm glad that so many of you are at-least trying, the more people become aware of crap like this the more difficult it will become to hide it.

 

[Therumancer]

I have nothing against leather and/or fur as long as the animals aren't endangered. When it comes to endangered animals, part of my motivation is "we protect them so we can ensure we always have a supply of that nice leather/meat/fur".

That said, there is no excuse for the way they are going about this.

The Humane Society manages to execute tons of animals every year, and I guess the methods vary, but one of the big ways they do it is to lock them in cages in a room and then suck the air out and so on. It's pretty cost effective.

Killing animals is never going to be nice, but humans are predators and we do it as part of our own existance. Needless cruelty is to be avoided but I see fur as being just as valid as obtaining meat.

As I said, if the US goverment can find a way to dispose of what is probably hundreds of thousands or millions of animals a year without resorting to things like that, there is no reason these guys can't, especially seeing as Uncle Sam is notoriously stingy.

 

[Aesir23]

I've seen this video before, if the comments in this topic are anything to go by at least, and there is no way I'm going to submit myself to that again when I still have those images seared into my brain.

 

[Blaster395]

As much as I like eating meat, raising anything to be killed is comparable to abuse. Then again, how livestock are raised is different than the fur trade. Might just be my opinion but fur seems pretty tacky anyways, but, there's a market and sadists happen to supply it.

Some livestock can be raised in a way that benefits both species. Humans get a supply of meat, animals live an easy life with available food and safety from predators and likely end up living longer and dying less painfully than they would in nature.

I think this would be a suitable balance between not eating meat and ignoring the issue. I have no idea if this is feasible though.


Also, it is not beneficial for the farmer to keep them in terrible conditions. Poor conditions = poor product. It should be in most farmers interest to try and give the animals the best conditions possible.

 

[Berithil]

After watching 3 seconds of that, I want to hunt those people down and skin THEM alive. But seriously, how can someone be so depraved and cruel to do that? I guess a human conscience is non existent in some people