OH GOD, THE ANTI GAMES PEOPLE WERE RIGHT!

[woodaba]

Or to be edgy. I dunno. Presumably that's what they assume the target audience of teenage males* will find edgy, and 'dark' and 'mature' and all those other buzz words that are so often grossly misused.

I've definitely seen this. There's someone on this forum (I forget who) who unironically believes that CoD4 is a landmark in vidya gaem storytelling because a controllable character gets nuked.

...Yahtzee?

 

[daveman247]

dead space is a game that goes close to the edge at points, but it's okay there, because it's all done to achieve a scary effect, it doesn't imply f***ing rape, and most of all, the audience aren't expected to laugh at it, at all. It's all meant to be scary and even tragic.

You havn't seen Isaac killed by a tripod If thats not rape i don't know what is.

 

[TehCookie]

Nothing really makes me think that. I'm not saying all games are great, but a sane person will not play a bad game and get corrupted. Someone who is already messed up will play a game and people will blame the game causing it instead of something else, like ignorant parents.

 

[Avalanche91]

The only time I fully agreed with the anti-gaming-people that springs to mind was EA's marketing of both 'Dead Space' (footage of incredibly shocked and repulsed moms) and Dante's Inferno (Several very failed attempts at guerilla marketing)

The Duke Nukem segment you described while in poor taste, I don't think qualifies as the anti-gaming-people being right.

 

[daveman247]

and still no one gives a flying fuck about syndicate

i cant imagine this game without these retarded pointless scenes....

And nobody cares about the mass murder in GTA or saints row.... I'm not sure what you are trying to prove.

 

[daveman247]

we really needed that scene in that game. otherwise we could not really decide that the guys are evil enough (same shit like no russian).

Well kind of, up until that point you have only been hurting other companies

To be fair, the story wasn't really well developed in that game. Had potential, but didnt get there.

 

[Doclector]

Nothing really makes me think that. I'm not saying all games are great, but a sane person will not play a bad game and get corrupted. Someone who is already messed up will play a game and people will blame the game causing it instead of something else, like ignorant parents.

Well, of course that's always been ridiculous and always will be, still, a game can cross the line in much the same way any other medium can.

 

[somonels]

I remember the good old days when we were demonizing printed books because they would cause our wives to neglect their duties and turn our children into drooling slobs.

Edit... my god, we were right!

 

[daveman247]

and if you do not get that he is evil after seeing him shooting unarmed scientist/civilian #376.....

Yup. Well, EVERYBODY seems to be evil in that game XD Even the supposed "good guys"

Thats pretty cool ,actually.

 

[daveman247]

In a nutshell: http://gamersareembarrassing.wordpress.com/category/destructoid/

It's like ground zero for people who like Jim Sterling and "hurr durr go make me a sandwich" jokes.

Wow. THAT person has something against destructoid/ jim sterling. Did they fire him or something?

 

[Kahunaburger]

In a nutshell: http://gamersareembarrassing.wordpress.com/category/destructoid/

It's like ground zero for people who like Jim Sterling and "hurr durr go make me a sandwich" jokes.

Wow. THAT person has something against destructoid/ jim sterling. Did they fire him or something?

Those are just the posts tagged "destructoid" haha. Jim Sterling's foot-in-mouth disease and the Destructoid forums' homophobia/sexism/immaturity (although this is not, as far as I can tell, unique to Destructoid) make them one of the favorite punching bags of "hey, can we like games and not have regressive social politics?" blogs.

 

[Meight08]

After having played Red Orchestra 2 in the free weekend I understand why some non-gamers look at it and get a bit freaked out. Fiddle around with the language option and all of a sudden your Russian soldier screams for his mother when he gets shot. A good bit too heavy for me.

None the less, it's no reason to ban the game.

it´s worse when they get shot in the throat you can hear the desperate gurgling and gasping for I wish i was joking.
ot: RO2 is still great.

 

[Vrach]

After having played Red Orchestra 2 in the free weekend I understand why some non-gamers look at it and get a bit freaked out. Fiddle around with the language option and all of a sudden your Russian soldier screams for his mother when he gets shot. A good bit too heavy for me.

None the less, it's no reason to ban the game.

But that's nothing short of a good thing. Displaying the horror, in this case, of war, is not bad, not by any stretch of imagination. I get why people get pissed at something like Postal, being just gratuitous violence with no real artistic goal in the game (none that I can see anyway), but when you're trying to display a situation, anything goes, it's just a matter of whether the viewer can stomach it - but that's the viewer's problem for the most part (exceptions exist ofc).

Well, I think their "bad", because like I mentioned, I don't really want to see or hear it. It seems rather pointless - violence and depression for the sake of violence and depression. And please, don't pull this artistic value bullshit. That has about as much merit as the studies you mentioned. Zero.

That being said, it's no reason to ban it or whatever.

Fancy explaining why it has no merit? I can see absolutely 0 reasoning from you on it, when a game wants to portray something, it shouldn't hide from the tools at its disposal just because it might not be to someone's taste (unless you're going for mass appeal over being true to what you want to present, which is not really something I'd agree with for the most part)

You don't want to see or hear it, I get ya. But that's no real argument, that's just what you want. Violence and depression for the sake of violence and depression? How is that different from the horror genre? It's horror for the sake of horror 99% of the time and yeah, that's not to a lot of people's tastes (myself included), but it doesn't mean the genre should go away.

 

[darkcalling]

I didn't think it was funny but it didn't offend me at all. Duke's always been the king of crude humor but somehow it's never bothered me. If anything the level succeeded in being creepy and got a couple decent jump scares out of me.

 

[Snotnarok]

No games have never offended me and if one ever does, I can do this amazing ability humans have and I can choose not to play it rather than forcing devs to stop what they're doing or censor it.

Edit: And having seen that Duke bit, I just thought it was trying to hard to be offensive rather than just being offensive. Because the girls were in duke 3D and they just did the Aliens thing "kill me" and then you did and laughed.

That's the thing that really wrecks DNF, it plays off the lines like they're Dukes when he's ALWAYS been a parody of action stars back then. "Hail to the King baby" is from Army of Darkness, and it's scary the number of people who think it's Duke.