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Okay I have to ask, been watching the HP films lately and this is bugging me...

WHAT THE HELL QUALIFIES SOMETHING AS MUGGLE TECHNOLOGY?!

Seriously, elevators are hunky dorey but telephones aren't? Trains are cool but toasters are weird? Ball point pens are a no no but a radio service isn't?

At least the Amish make sense!

Thoughts?


P.S
Anyone find Muggle kind of a racial slur? Doesn't that make Hogwarts kind of like those backwoods communes Louis Theroux would go visit?
 

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I think many people established a looooooooooooong time ago that much of the 'logic' in the HP universe was flawed. Consistency is not the series' strong point.
 

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In that vein, why are owls superior to email? Or flying broomsticks superior to enchanted armchairs? Don't think about it or you'll ruin your childhood.
 

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Cheshire the Cat said:
A) His best friend is a ginger.
B) He spends all this time with Hermione and never tries to hit that.
C) Michael Jackson = Voldemort [http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/11/25/128720778590520988.jpg].

I rest my case.
You scare me...
 

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As I said in the duplicate thread.
If I recall, the technology of the wizarding world halted at some point just after the turn of the 20th Century, so anything prior to that is fair game, and anything after isn't.
 

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It's kinda like calling someone a pleb, just because they don't have a degree.
Unfortunately, the adults I know who would read Harry Potter, are just the kind of people that would call people 'pleb'. Students adopt these labels to affix on other people, it's one of the many reasons why students tend to annoy me.

Now, giving someone a label like Muggle, or Pleb is risky - some people base that on an assumption, in which case they will find themselves in trouble before long. The only people who can justify using those terms, are people who don't know what they mean.
If some oily little student called you a pleb, or for that matter, a 'muggle' - wouldn't you take offense?, would that student still be able to walk afterwords?
 

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Cheshire the Cat said:
Simple. Its all a delusion in Harrys mind.
Harry suffered a head injury while being sexually assaulted by Michael Jackson and the entire thing is just a crazy hallucination caused by Harrys brain swelling. Thats what the scar is, where he bashed his head open.

I present 3 pieces of evidence that will prove once and for all that its just because Harry is fucked up.

A) His best friend is a ginger.
B) He spends all this time with Hermione and never tries to hit that.
C) Michael Jackson = Voldemort [http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/11/25/128720778590520988.jpg].

I rest my case.
I have been so blind...
 

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Never really cared for HP I read most of the books and saw most of the movies and it was always "okay' for me. Grew up with Conan instead of Harry Potter which is wierd since everyone my age was reading HP, but I was reading about the decay of civilization and the fall into Barbarism. Oh and babes lots and lots of scantily clad babes.
 

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The universe of Harry Potter is a magical fantasy where nothing has to make any particular sense. Especially for a muggle such as yourself. =P
 

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SilentCom said:
The universe of Harry Potter is a magical fantasy where nothing has to make any particular sense. Especially for a muggle such as yourself. =P
I don't mind if the ooh ahh magical part lacks detailed diagrams and instructions but their relationship to technology seems pretty important to who they are!
 

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Wizards are just dumb. They think their superior to humans because they have magic, but they refuse to acknowledge that "Muggle" technology is far and away superior to magic. They're locked into a mindset from the middle ages.

Honestly, someday the wizards will screw up and break their masquerade, and its gonna be all over. I'm surprised it didn't happen when Voldemort was out doing his thing.
 

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surg3n said:
It's kinda like calling someone a pleb, just because they don't have a degree.
Unfortunately, the adults I know who would read Harry Potter, are just the kind of people that would call people 'pleb'. Students adopt these labels to affix on other people, it's one of the many reasons why students tend to annoy me.

Now, giving someone a label like Muggle, or Pleb is risky - some people base that on an assumption, in which case they will find themselves in trouble before long. The only people who can justify using those terms, are people who don't know what they mean.
If some oily little student called you a pleb, or for that matter, a 'muggle' - wouldn't you take offense?, would that student still be able to walk afterwords?
I believe if someone called me a "muggle" i'd be inclined to agree.

I am a person with zero magical abilities which is what a muggle is in the HP universe.

Thus, we're all bloody muggles.
 

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From what I've been able to divine from the series (though I am NOT an expert on these things), it seems most most technology that is post-industrial revolution is what wizards have problems with. Trains and other strictly mechanical devices are fine, but electrical appliances are out (except for maybe light bulbs). But that is simply my rudimentary observation.
 

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Valkyrie101 said:
Don't think about it or you'll ruin your childhood.
You already ruined your childhood the moment you opened one of those fucking books... (joke... well kind of)
 

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Lilani said:
From what I've been able to divine from the series (though I am NOT an expert on these things), it seems most most technology that is post-industrial revolution is what wizards have problems with. Trains and other strictly mechanical devices are fine, but electrical appliances are out (except for maybe light bulbs). But that is simply my rudimentary observation.
Not even lightbulbs, remember how Filch uses lamps instead of a torch? The Great Hall has actual candle chandeliers also.

Anything beyond about this point is overthinking it.
 

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I hate how mutants from X-Men and the Harry Potter universe are so derisive of regular humans. I'd love to take the finest "Muggle" technology and blow Harry's head off. After all, he's not bulletproof (and in case he is, nothing a napalm strike or tactical nuke can't fix).
 

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Cheshire the Cat said:
Simple. Its all a delusion in Harrys mind.
Harry suffered a head injury while being sexually assaulted by Michael Jackson and the entire thing is just a crazy hallucination caused by Harrys brain swelling. Thats what the scar is, where he bashed his head open.

I present 3 pieces of evidence that will prove once and for all that its just because Harry is fucked up.

A) His best friend is a ginger.
B) He spends all this time with Hermione and never tries to hit that.
C) Michael Jackson = Voldemort [http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/11/25/128720778590520988.jpg].

I rest my case.


Back there, behind Simba? That's my childhood...

OT: Another glaring flaw in continuity. Yay!
 

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Okay I have to ask, been watching the HP films lately and this is bugging me...

WHAT THE HELL QUALIFIES SOMETHING AS MUGGLE TECHNOLOGY?!

Seriously, elevators are hunky dorey but telephones aren't? Trains are cool but toasters are weird? Ball point pens are a no no but a radio service isn't?

At least the Amish make sense!

Thoughts?


P.S
Anyone find Muggle kind of a racial slur? Doesn't that make Hogwarts kind of like those backwoods communes Louis Theroux would go visit?
Answer: In the books, you learn that wizards have been studying their technological brothers for years, adapting in the use of technology here and there to stay with the times and just because some of it helps. They're behind the times, of course, but the idea is that wizards may as well be a fictional third-world country, who wouldn't know what to do with a Playstation if it hit them in the noggin.