Ok, what gives?

[Sampler]

Sat in front of me I have five devices that will play Skyrim (my desktop PC that for some reason is in the living room hooked up to the TV, my HTPC, my Laptop, my PS3 & my 360) - what have I played all day until my eye started to bleed (no exaggeration, it's quite unnerving). Yup that little white box in the corner.

I pre-ordered the Collectors Edition and since it was released yesterday here and I ordered online they actually shipped it early so I've had it since Wednesday and it's AWESOME!

I hate the "all Zelda games are the same" argument, it's clearly made by those who haven't played them - I could go pull my (gold) cartridge of the first Zelda, put it in my NES and have a completely different experience to that I've had today.

Also "in Zelda I play Link" - no you don't, that's why you get to enter your name at the start, hell Skyward Sword even has multiple response dialogue options so you can be nice or a jerk (or somewhere in between). Needles to say which option most evidently need.

I played about ten minutes of Oblivion and found it lacking, there wasn't much to keep my interest in the opening and the graphics were poor - not "poor" as in, say like the Wii can't produce the photo-realistic shots you get in some PS3/PC games, that doesn't interest me, I mean there was no style to it, no art, just a very poor attempt at simulating life.

Now where did I put that asbestos suit..

 

[Lukeje]

For example, MW3 outsold everything, ever.

We're not talking about MW3, we're talking about Skyrim.

I do wish they would port it to a proper system so we can have non retard controls.

The controls are part of the point.

 

[StBishop]

and a larger audience they appeal to

Seriously? I think you lost all credibility at this point.

No. There are new kids on the block who are not Nintendo IPs and they do appeal to wider audiences.

Skyrim may, or may not, be one of them. But there certainly are new (relative to Nintendo) franchises which have a wider appeal.

For example, MW3 outsold everything, ever.

We're not talking about MW3, we're talking about Skyrim.[/quote]

Ah, but we're not just talking about Zelda and Skyrim.[footnote]If I were a betting man I'd wager that, outside of Japan, (which is where most Escapists are from) Skyrim will outsell Skyward Sword.[/footnote] You said that Lilani lost all credibility for claiming that new IPs have larger audiences to which they appeal than Zelda.

But what Lilani said is in fact true, new IPs (for example MW) have larger audiences.

MW3 is relevant because it's the latest instalment of a very young IP (compared to Zelda) which has a larger audience than, well everything apparently. Not just Zelda.

What I'm getting at is that people claiming that Zelda is old news and that some newer games (while maybe not as good as the Zelda series to you, or indeed many people) have much larger audiences and that is why you'll hear a tonne about Skyrim, and BF3 vs MW3 but not so much about Zelda.

Also there's the other reason's I mentioned in my first post.

So yeah, it's relevant.

 

[Zoe Castillo]

Skyward Sword is not Skyrim

If I were to look at the Top Games on gamespot right now skyrim is first with Skyward Sword on second place .

in short skyrim is more popular ?.but honestly who gives a fuck ?

 

[Lukeje]

You said that Lilani lost all credibility for claiming that new IPs have larger audiences to which they appeal than Zelda.

No, I didn't. Please read the post again.

 

[Grygor]

It's very easy to see why there are far more Skyrim threads than SS threads.

Skyward Sword preorders (US) as of Nov. 12: 690,000
Skyrim preorders (US) as of Nov. 5: 1,860,000

(For comparison, as of the 12th, Saints Row: the Third had 510,000 preorders, Assassin's Creed: Revelations had 1,200,000, and Mass Effect 3, which doesn't even come out for 4 months, had 400,000.)

Skyrim went on to sell 3,500,000 copies in it's first week (first two days, to be specific) - the last Zelda game to do that was, uh, none of them - and is pretty much guaranteed to outsell the N64 version Ocarina of Time, also known as the best-selling Zelda of all time (Fallout 3 managed outsold every other Zelda game).
In short, nowadays a Bethesda Softworks release is a significantly larger phenomenon than a Zelda release.

Furthermore, the very nature of a game like Skyrim means there's more to talk about than with a game like Skyward Sword - if you're playing a Zelda game, you can be reasonably sure that everyone else playing it is having pretty much the same experience, while the same cannot generally be said of a Bethesda game.

More to talk about + more people talking about it = far more forum chatter about it.

 

[TheRightToArmBears]

Allow me to answer your question with another question:

In Skyward Sword do you go around killing dragons?

 

[Gmans uncle]

Simple.
Skyward Sword is...
A: On the Wii, and therefore immediately niche by nature.
B: A new installment in a series that's seen as a dead relic by a majority of Escapists.
C: Not out yet, and therefore not as relevant for open discussion.
D: Not even close to the cultural phenomenon that was Skyrim.

On top of all that, 80% of Escapists are giant Elder Scrolls or Fallout fans, and outside of Nintendo based forums Skyword Sword hasn't gotten a fraction of the hype Skyrim has.

Bottom line when talking about Skyword sword you ask IF someone is getting it, when talking about Skyrim you ask WHEN they are getting it.