Okay, I'm Sorry but... Just What on Earth is so Great about Mass Effect?!
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Yes, all those people that love it are clearly mistaken in their opinions. . . or liars!SpectacularWebHead said:
Anyway, that wasn't my point, I was just pointing out that your 'only gets any publicity because it's made by valve' is just completely incorrect.
Anyway again, just because you don't like a game that others do doesn't mean it's 'overhyped', it just means you don't like it.
Basically, this.Able Seacat said:
I like Mass Effect because A) in 2, I could finally make an awesome female character who wasn't a stripper, B) the characters are amazing, and C) dude, the world! It's so well-developed without being cluttered or hackneyed.
Also Garrus, Legion, and Thane.
I never got into ME1. For me, the combat was so clunky and shallow, and the vehicle sections were just painful to get through. Feros was the last straw, and I gave up. But then a few years after I played the first one, I heard about the characters and the writing and such, and saw moments from 1 and 2 like Mordin singing, the confortation with Saren at the Citadel, the Suicide Mission, giving Tali a hug, and I got interested. Then, 1 and 2 were only £15 on Steam, so I thought what the hey, and holy shit. Ok, the combat is always a bit of a chore because I don't use powers that often, but the writing and the music and the backstory... I remember going for the romance achievment in 1 just for its own sake, but at the end I was having a lot of difficulty choosing between Liara and Ash. And when I talked to Joker for the first time in 3, it honestly felt like meeting an old freind. Stuff like that makes the series for me. It is my belief that the best stories have fantastic situations and good plots, but the focus is on a small group of characters so you have someone you care about. And while Bastion is easily king in this regard, Mass Effect is a pretty close second. The fact that they tghtend the combat for 3 helped a fair bit, and the multiplayer is pretty fun too.
Oh and by the way, fuck you Bioware. Not for the ending, you're forgiven for that, but... WHY DO THANE AND LEGION HAVE TO DIE? *manly tears*
Oh and by the way, fuck you Bioware. Not for the ending, you're forgiven for that, but... WHY DO THANE AND LEGION HAVE TO DIE? *manly tears*
The demos for both games really sell it short, I was skeptical about Mass Effect 2 after the demo but I bought it and ended up loving it. I think it's because you need to invest in it before you can start to enjoy it. I thought the first hour or two of ME2 was quite mediocre but then once things got going, it was fantastic.WhyWasThat said:
The characters are great and a lot of thought is put into the universe, which makes it feel real.
S'alright, personally it didn't drag me in like it was supposed to, but I'm putting that down to Shepards voice actor, who is fucking awful.
It's like they just gave him a list of things to say out of context and just got him to read it, it doesn't matter what he's doing, he always has the same tone of voice, one that sounds like he'd really be doing anything else. Aside from that, I haven't got much fault with them, I enjoyed playing through them, but it hasn't stayed with me like some games have.
And in a more direct response to the thread title. Go read some fucking reviews or the masses of information on the game explaining why people think that, making a forum thread about it ISNT going to change your views on the game.
It's like they just gave him a list of things to say out of context and just got him to read it, it doesn't matter what he's doing, he always has the same tone of voice, one that sounds like he'd really be doing anything else. Aside from that, I haven't got much fault with them, I enjoyed playing through them, but it hasn't stayed with me like some games have.
And in a more direct response to the thread title. Go read some fucking reviews or the masses of information on the game explaining why people think that, making a forum thread about it ISNT going to change your views on the game.
Eh, fair enough, it's your opinion... I likr Mass Effevct for it's characters and setting, also the story... when it's good.
I do like it, it's over hyped because it is widely regarded as the best shooter of all time when it really isn't. And fine, the whole valve half life publicity whatever may be correct, but that doesn't take away from the fact that it isn't really deserving of all the amazing creditation it seems to get.Bobic said:
I am also not the only person who thinks this, see all the bajillions of threads that say exactly the same thing. It's good, but it isn't That good.
Mass Effect, while generaly a decent enough series, is of course far from the cancer curing awesomenes some people make it out to be. And, ME3 is far from "best game ever, up to the ending". No, the parts before the ending weren't that awesomely exceptional either. Tuchanka and Rannoch bits were well done, all the rest was just more of the mediocre CBS shit we're force fed every day by the AAA industry these days.
Have you tried playing as the female Shepard?elvor0 said:
Personally I find Jennifer Hale to do a much better job than Mark Meer.
Oh christ... they still exist. I thought we'd seen the last of these threads in 2011, but... oh god... the flashbacks... AAAAH...
Threads... Halo threads... in flames... Half-Life fans everywhere... elitist... pretentious NO NO NO BAD WORDS BAD WORDS DON'T BRING BACK THE MEMORIES
I'm not here. This isn't happening.
Threads... Halo threads... in flames... Half-Life fans everywhere... elitist... pretentious NO NO NO BAD WORDS BAD WORDS DON'T BRING BACK THE MEMORIES
I'm not here. This isn't happening.
This is one of the most pretentious, arrogant and straight out insulting posts I've seen here in a while.WhyWasThat said:
I tried to play through HL2 once. Guess what? I got bored. I stopped playing, I've never felt the need to play it again.
Just because you view it as some sort of perfect vision of a man-god doesn't mean that other people will see what you see in it. Just because I don't enjoy it doesn't mean i missed all of the "sophisticated" intellectual themes and detail. I got bored playing it, and it's a game that's made to entertain. That's enough to say it's just not for me, and that it probably never will be. The gameplay was straight out dull for me, and a lot of other things can do story better than an FPS.
But oh well, it turns out I'm an invalid for not bowing to the almighty half life. I guess I'll just never be smart enough to be on your level of thought and comprehend the second coming in the form of a fucking video game.
No, OP is right IMO. Mass Effect is an overly hyped rpg, with a simplistic "moral" system and only the illusion of choice. Its environments are bland and sterile, and the world just generally feels static and dead. Combat is a chore, and the writing is mediocre at best. If you want to see an RPG done right, look no further than The Witcher series. While some of the very same problems plague the series (namely sterile and bland samey environments in the first, and to some extent the second), and the gameplay being very meh, especially in the first one, it is to date, the BEST RPG I have ever played.
There is no "right" and "wrong", only choices, and these choices actually affect the world. For example, while playing through the first Witcher game, I was doing a random sidequest where I was supposed to protect a weapon cache from some rebel elves, I was reluctantly forced into the job, and so when the elves came along I let them take the weapons, as I was trying to remain as neutral as possible and not take any sides. I thought nothing of it and went my way, with the elves having paid me what I was promised for protecting said weapons in the first place. 2 chapter later, I need to talk to a man as part of a quest, turns out those same elves I let take the weapons, used them to kill the man I was supposed to talk to, as they were only good for unarmored targets. I could go on gushing about how simplistic and badly written Bioware games seem in comparison, but I'll save that for another thread.
Having said all of this..
While I personally loved HL2, comparing it to Mass Effect is just idiotic in the first place. It's much like comparing apples and oranges.
One is a linear FPS with a story being told to you, and the other is a Sci-Fi RPG where you "make" your own story (to a certain extent, see above).
There is no "right" and "wrong", only choices, and these choices actually affect the world. For example, while playing through the first Witcher game, I was doing a random sidequest where I was supposed to protect a weapon cache from some rebel elves, I was reluctantly forced into the job, and so when the elves came along I let them take the weapons, as I was trying to remain as neutral as possible and not take any sides. I thought nothing of it and went my way, with the elves having paid me what I was promised for protecting said weapons in the first place. 2 chapter later, I need to talk to a man as part of a quest, turns out those same elves I let take the weapons, used them to kill the man I was supposed to talk to, as they were only good for unarmored targets. I could go on gushing about how simplistic and badly written Bioware games seem in comparison, but I'll save that for another thread.
Having said all of this..
While I personally loved HL2, comparing it to Mass Effect is just idiotic in the first place. It's much like comparing apples and oranges.
One is a linear FPS with a story being told to you, and the other is a Sci-Fi RPG where you "make" your own story (to a certain extent, see above).
great writing for the most part, likable and memorable characters, a deep and engaging world to explore, a non linear story, and parts 2 and 3 actually have some pretty good gameplay in my opinion
you might know this if you had actually played more than the demo, don't think you can judge a game based on the demo for it, especially the Mass Effect games
oh and about Half Life being better or worse than Mass Effect, beleive it or not i love both of them, but they aren't even similar, so they shouldn't be compared to each other
you might know this if you had actually played more than the demo, don't think you can judge a game based on the demo for it, especially the Mass Effect games
oh and about Half Life being better or worse than Mass Effect, beleive it or not i love both of them, but they aren't even similar, so they shouldn't be compared to each other