Okay... Now i am getting worried.
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The only thing that can change how much the same mass weighs is being somewhere with a different amount of gravity. Density has nothing to do with it.toriver said:
A kilogram of water will weigh a different amount on Mars than it will on Earth. But if both are on Earth, then a kilogram of water will weigh exactly the same as a kilogram of ice.
Also, ice is less dense than water, not the other way around. That's why ice floats in drinks, and icebergs float at sea.
I agree that it is disturbing, and also tends to fuel a lot of the 2012 speculation. I'm not a big believer, but one has to admit the timing is uncanny. I think the speed of information does influance the rate that we hear about it, but the number of natural disasters seems to be on the rise.
As far as the US Goverment having an Earthquake machine, I wouldn't entirely discount the possibility. A goverment like the US is always going to be holding back a number of "X weapons" as Heinlan once put it (X meaning unknown). Such weapons are almost always going to be out of context to what the general populance thinks is possible (which helps fuel speculative fiction). Truthfully the "Atomic Weapon" was developed decades ago and since then there has doubtlessly been entire generations of weapon development people are not familiar with. There are several ways a so called "Earthquake machine" could work as various speculative science fiction writers have detailed over the years. It's more plausible than
a lot of things.
Of course I'd also be quick to point out that if we *DO* have a weapon like this, we wouldn't be targeting the areas that are being hit. Generally speaking there is no real purpose to say leveling Haiti that I can see. That's the problem with leaders in Chile, Venezuala, etc... they suffer from massive amounts of unwarrented self importance. We find them annoying for sure, but not to the point where we would use something like this on them, we'd prefer to hold a card like that close to our chest to employ against like say China or Russia. We'd also likely be aiming it at priority targets, and while intelligence services could very well know things I don't, none of the areas hit by disasters seem to play host to anything that I would consider a threat to the US.
Such are my thoughts. I'm not saying that "our" goverment has an Earthquake machine or anything, simply that it's the least insane part of the theory. Any way it goes I'd imagine if we ever cut loose for real we'd show off things that would have people going "WTF was that?".
Also as far as conspiricy theories go, the one I've had my eyes on is "Psychotronic weapons". Despite the name, what it basically amounts to is a teleportation device, used to deliver warheads and bombs. Apparently research was being conducted on this during World War II (and inspired science fiction like "The Philedelphia experiment" and a couple of fake outs trying to convince the other side that we had succeeded since both sides wer eworking on it). I'm no expert but allegedly the basic theory behind it is fairly sound, however the issue like a lot of things has been generating enough power reliably.
The point being that when it comes to "X-Weapons" the guy who develops that effectively renders all the planes, battleships, and even science fiction tropes like super robots and space cruisers, totally irrelevent.
Conspiricy theories typically have some roots in truth. Consider that before the end of World War II if someone told you we'd have a bomb that could wipe out an entire city, people would have said you were a paranoid nut job. It's food for thought.
As far as the US Goverment having an Earthquake machine, I wouldn't entirely discount the possibility. A goverment like the US is always going to be holding back a number of "X weapons" as Heinlan once put it (X meaning unknown). Such weapons are almost always going to be out of context to what the general populance thinks is possible (which helps fuel speculative fiction). Truthfully the "Atomic Weapon" was developed decades ago and since then there has doubtlessly been entire generations of weapon development people are not familiar with. There are several ways a so called "Earthquake machine" could work as various speculative science fiction writers have detailed over the years. It's more plausible than
a lot of things.
Of course I'd also be quick to point out that if we *DO* have a weapon like this, we wouldn't be targeting the areas that are being hit. Generally speaking there is no real purpose to say leveling Haiti that I can see. That's the problem with leaders in Chile, Venezuala, etc... they suffer from massive amounts of unwarrented self importance. We find them annoying for sure, but not to the point where we would use something like this on them, we'd prefer to hold a card like that close to our chest to employ against like say China or Russia. We'd also likely be aiming it at priority targets, and while intelligence services could very well know things I don't, none of the areas hit by disasters seem to play host to anything that I would consider a threat to the US.
Such are my thoughts. I'm not saying that "our" goverment has an Earthquake machine or anything, simply that it's the least insane part of the theory. Any way it goes I'd imagine if we ever cut loose for real we'd show off things that would have people going "WTF was that?".
Also as far as conspiricy theories go, the one I've had my eyes on is "Psychotronic weapons". Despite the name, what it basically amounts to is a teleportation device, used to deliver warheads and bombs. Apparently research was being conducted on this during World War II (and inspired science fiction like "The Philedelphia experiment" and a couple of fake outs trying to convince the other side that we had succeeded since both sides wer eworking on it). I'm no expert but allegedly the basic theory behind it is fairly sound, however the issue like a lot of things has been generating enough power reliably.
The point being that when it comes to "X-Weapons" the guy who develops that effectively renders all the planes, battleships, and even science fiction tropes like super robots and space cruisers, totally irrelevent.
Conspiricy theories typically have some roots in truth. Consider that before the end of World War II if someone told you we'd have a bomb that could wipe out an entire city, people would have said you were a paranoid nut job. It's food for thought.
Ah, but that was actually an Inca conspiracy, created to give the illusion that John Wilkes Booth was a villain! He was a Mayan superhero, who invented the Mayan calandar using his advanced time-travel techniques. He was trying to warn Abe Lincoln with chronobullets. Unfortunately, rather than aiding the future, because of Lincoln's atomic barrier hat, the chronobullets killed him.Le Tueur said:
Does this mean that Final Fantasy 7 was also a Mayan creation?ffxfriek said:
It is the effect of mass media saturation and our obsession with our own destruction. It is also our guilt about not being affected by the tragedy that we fear and hope it happens to us too.
That's just my opinion. and the whole 2012 thing is hilarious in my mind. The main pro argument I heard from a guy I know running his own doomsday cult is: "Both science and religion is in agreement" as if it's some clear cut marvel team-up between the Pope and Stephen Hawking.
I also think it's arrogant for us to assume we can "end" the world. We can only end ourselves.
That's just my opinion. and the whole 2012 thing is hilarious in my mind. The main pro argument I heard from a guy I know running his own doomsday cult is: "Both science and religion is in agreement" as if it's some clear cut marvel team-up between the Pope and Stephen Hawking.
I also think it's arrogant for us to assume we can "end" the world. We can only end ourselves.
Its Gods punishment for the peoples of Earth not being more excepting of LGBT/coloured folk.
What? Bible belters spout this crap.
What? Bible belters spout this crap.
I told you to not go see 2012. Honestly earth volcanic and seismic activity varies a lot. there have been many periods with many deadly earthquakes. Dont think anhything indicates a major event.Soushi said:
Clearly, not many of you were physics majors (like me). We actually had problems sets involving scenarios like these. What happens is that when the plates release their energy from hitting each other, it creates waves. The waves are the cause of the earthquakes. Since waves travel through a medium, they don't end after the earthquake, but continue to travel through the earth. They can show up on other parts of the earth as earthquakes, though generally smaller in magnitude (this is the cause of aftershocks as well). They could also trigger seismic activity that is building up elsewhere. So this guy is close in his theory.Phenom828 said:
If you weigh the same mass of substance, they weigh the same. It doesn't take density into consideration.toriver said:
Also, ice in water does not raise the sea level. Ice also has a lower density and is therefore less dense (or packed if you will) than water.
That doesn't mean it lowers the sealevel, though. Ice replaces the same amount of water it weighs, raising the sea by the same amount whether it is frozen or liquid.
EDIT: Ow, massively ninja'd. Oh well
if u think about it. there are tectonic plates being pushed together all the time. the pressure builds up. little earthquakes mean that the pressure has been released so the pressure has to build up again in order for a big earthquakes to take place. maybe we haven't had any little earthquakes in some time and as a result we've had some big 'uns. just coincedence that we have had them all in quick succession.
Very aware that sounds really patronising but i ain't changing it now.
Very aware that sounds really patronising but i ain't changing it now.
