Perhaps if the plate was small and covered only Antarctica. As it happens:cuddly_tomato said:No but the weight in that region shifts. When you shift that much weight it might well have a big effect on the crust of the earth it is lying on.

Perhaps if the plate was small and covered only Antarctica. As it happens:cuddly_tomato said:No but the weight in that region shifts. When you shift that much weight it might well have a big effect on the crust of the earth it is lying on.
Havn't it already been here? in ninja outfit, ofc.webbo619 said:be worried the locust horde is coming![]()
The location of the mass could effect the earth. If the Ice on the poles was enough to squish the earth slightly removing some of the weight and moving it about the earth could cause a reaction.Drexer said:Weight=Gravitic Force=F(g)
F(g)=m*a
m=mass(Kg)
a=9.8(m.s^-2) Which is pretty much a constant on earth surface for any macroscopic calculations.
If you have more ice packed into a smaller volume then you have more mass. You have to remember that the earth is a closed system, we only exchange energy with the outside, not matter(except for the occasional satellite or meteor. So the whole idea of there being more or less mass over the Earth's crust based on the state of the matter is well... silly.
I think you are underestimating the weight of the sea ice. Take a butchers [http://www.articlesbase.com/environment-articles/will-global-warming-unleash-more-seismic-activity-77891.html]. Some of the ice in Antarctica is miles deep, and it is as heavy as rock. If all that melted it would be effectively like lifting a mountain range off the place.Dead Raen said:Perhaps if the plate was small and covered only Antarctica. As it happens:cuddly_tomato said:No but the weight in that region shifts. When you shift that much weight it might well have a big effect on the crust of the earth it is lying on.The plate extends way beyond the edge of Antarctica. No amount of water pressure increase due to ice melt is going to have an effect on that area. None.![]()
...That COMPLETELY went over your head.Dead Raen said:Hahaha, what? Mass doesn't change when the state of matter changes. Ice does not weigh more heavily than water anywhere. There's a reason ice floats in water, you guys. It's called density, and no, that doesn't make it heavier either.Xanadu84 said:I think a lot of people are overlooking the obvious here: Ice does weigh more heavily on certain areas then water would. Take, for example, a person picking up a giant block with there hands. Very, very heavy. What happens when the ice melts? Is he carrying the same weight? No, because all the water just fell through his fingers, onto the ground.
Yep. It isn't all that simple because some of the water would stay in the southern oceans. However...Xanadu84 said:...That COMPLETELY went over your head.Dead Raen said:Hahaha, what? Mass doesn't change when the state of matter changes. Ice does not weigh more heavily than water anywhere. There's a reason ice floats in water, you guys. It's called density, and no, that doesn't make it heavier either.Xanadu84 said:I think a lot of people are overlooking the obvious here: Ice does weigh more heavily on certain areas then water would. Take, for example, a person picking up a giant block with there hands. Very, very heavy. What happens when the ice melts? Is he carrying the same weight? No, because all the water just fell through his fingers, onto the ground.
Tell you what. Go freeze a gallon of water, and balance it on your hand. Then, take a gallon of liquid water (NO containers, just a big blob of water) and try to balance that on your hand. As you're holding up the giant block of ice, and the few droplets of water still remaining on your hand, and your staring down at your wet shoes and the soaking kitchen floor, tell me which one is heavier. Get it?
I read much of the article and it describes glacial ice. That is ice on land which is a lot different than ice in the sea. When it melts, we can assume much of the water will run out to the sea. That also means the pressure on that local area will decrease. I think it's fair to assume that will lead to an increased risk of earthquakes and volcanism (given there is magma near the surface under pressure) but I'm no expert.cuddly_tomato said:I think you are underestimating the weight of the sea ice. Take a butchers [http://www.articlesbase.com/environment-articles/will-global-warming-unleash-more-seismic-activity-77891.html]. Some of the ice in Antarctica is miles deep, and it is as heavy as rock. If all that melted it would be effectively like lifting a mountain range off the place.
There is no doubt that geological activity has increased recently. There have been more than a few earthquakes (there was even one in England 2 years ago that measured above a 5), and much volcanism has been going on (look at Iceland for example). I am not saying this is because of global warming or anything. Just that the theory need not be dismissed quite yet.
Obviously you're going to see a decrease in mass if you lose some of it underway. I can't see how that is relevant though but please tell me if I just missed your point.Xanadu84 said:...That COMPLETELY went over your head.
Tell you what. Go freeze a gallon of water, and balance it on your hand. Then, take a gallon of liquid water (NO containers, just a big blob of water) and try to balance that on your hand. As you're holding up the giant block of ice, and the few droplets of water still remaining on your hand, and your staring down at your wet shoes and the soaking kitchen floor, tell me which one is heavier. Get it?
When Ice becomes water, it moves. When water moves, its no longer pressing down on the same spot. If a glacier is pressing down on one spot, and the glacier melts, and the water moves away from that spot, there is no more pressure on that spot.Calgetorix said:Obviously you're going to see a decrease in mass if you lose some of it underway. I can't see how that is relevant though but please tell me if I just missed your point.Xanadu84 said:...That COMPLETELY went over your head.
Tell you what. Go freeze a gallon of water, and balance it on your hand. Then, take a gallon of liquid water (NO containers, just a big blob of water) and try to balance that on your hand. As you're holding up the giant block of ice, and the few droplets of water still remaining on your hand, and your staring down at your wet shoes and the soaking kitchen floor, tell me which one is heavier. Get it?
Ah, right. That's basically what I tried to say in my previous post (110) so we agree : )Xanadu84 said:When Ice becomes water, it moves. When water moves, its no longer pressing down on the same spot. If a glacier is pressing down on one spot, and the glacier melts, and the water moves away from that spot, there is no more pressure on that spot.
Really? I thought he pretty much just screamed and killed everything all the time with his vast and poorly defined powers and then sometimes turns into a bird and flies off at the end. Or is it always a leap year in the post apocalypse?JEBWrench said:Can't be! Old Violence Jack only comes out on leap years. (Unless this really is a leap year, and the Mayans tricked us again...)OtherSideofSky said:It's gotta be Violence Jack, just going around making earthquakes for no adequately explained reason as usual.
Post-apocalypse, all bets are off. Including bets about leap years.OtherSideofSky said:Really? I thought he pretty much just screamed and killed everything all the time with his vast and poorly defined powers and then sometimes turns into a bird and flies off at the end. Or is it always a leap year in the post apocalypse?JEBWrench said:Can't be! Old Violence Jack only comes out on leap years. (Unless this really is a leap year, and the Mayans tricked us again...)OtherSideofSky said:It's gotta be Violence Jack, just going around making earthquakes for no adequately explained reason as usual.