Oklahoma pharmacist sentenced to life for killing would-be robber

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thelonewolf266

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I don't see how any one could side with the pharmacist here.It would have been fine if he left it after the first shot but to then pump five more rounds into someone who is clearly no threat that is cold blooded murder and should be treated as such.
 

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1: Shooting at a robber = self defence.
2: Shooting said already wounded and unconcious robber repeatedly = straight up psychotic.
 

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CD-R said:
It was self defense up until the point where he went back into his store grabbed a different gun and shot the kid while he was unconscious on the ground. I'm all for self defense an the right to own guns, but it doesn't mean you get to execute criminals.
Exactly. Walking back to an unconscious person (After shooting them once already) and unloading 5 rounds into him is not self defense. Its cold blooded murder, and premeditated at that.
 

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If someone waved a gun at me and threatened my friends I honestly would kill that man. Also life is a crazy long sentence that is so stupidly long.
 
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Um, yeah. He deserved it. He shot an unconscious 16 year old FIVE FUCKING TIMES. Does that really sound like a perfectly well-adjusted individual to you?
 

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Joseph375 said:
Maybe I'm a bad person but I really don't care. A robber is killed, and nothing of value was lost.
If you don't think a human life has value just because they stole something then your life is worth a lot less than the teenage kid who died because he made a mistake.
 

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The point of having a gun isn't to murder the living shit out of anyone that dares to cross you, it's to make sure that you stand a better chance of incapacitating a highly dangerous attacker before any harm befalls you. Once he's unconscious with a bullet in his fucking head, the entire "attacker" aspect gets thrown out the window, and now you're just putting bullets in someone who's already going to have trouble feeding themselves for the rest of their life when they wake up.

I'm a very strong advocate for the rights of gun owners to act in self-defense, but having a gun in your hand is never an excuse not to exercise basic discretion. If he'd beat his attacker unconscious with, say, a baseball bat, would he have returned to bludgeon the unconscious man's skull into putty? If he did, that'd be murder, too, and I'd want to see him put away for it. Sorry you got robbed, buddy, but having someone try to rob your employer doesn't make you executioner for a day.
 

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Yep, murder. No doubt. He probably didn't need to shoot him in the first place, but I guess you could chalk that up to self defense.

But getting another gun and unloading more into his body in cold blood? That's awful and I'm glad he got life.
 

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Yeah, uh, I'm going to go with "should've called the cops and not shot the guy again". Seriously, you finished defending yourself and legally crossed over into assaulting/murdering an incapcitated man.
 

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thelonewolf266 said:
Joseph375 said:
Maybe I'm a bad person but I really don't care. A robber is killed, and nothing of value was lost.
If you don't think a human life has value just because they stole something then your life is worth a lot less than the teenage kid who died because he made a mistake.
It's not that it has NO value, it's that it has LESS value. His mistake was trying to rob someone with a freaking gun! That's a pretty damn big mistake. No sympathy for those who want to deprive someone of their property without due process of law. The kid had no good reason to try to rob someone at gunpoint.
 

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Then, in a scene recorded by the drugstore's security camera, he went behind the counter, got another gun, and pumped five more bullets into Parker as he lay on the floor unconscious.
If he just left it as things were, he'd have gotten off with self-defense, and that'd be it. He went back, loaded the gun and shot the unconscious kid on the ground to make sure he's dead, which goes from defense to murder because he's showing premeditation.

I'd have been on his side if he didn't shoot someone on the ground multiple times after the robbery was already foiled, but he's a fucking idiot that got angry and wanted to kill someone. He got what he deserved.
 

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While what the pharmacist did was definitely illegal, I commend him for making the streets just a little bit cleaner.

He's a real life Dexter.
 

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jpoon said:
Damn, that sucks. I would say it lies in self defense but he took it too far. The idiot who died absolutely got what he deserved though...
The douchebaggery of this statement is incredible. The robber, who probably was being just a stupid teenager, (And also a bit of a complete moron for BEING a robber) was killed in cold blood when he was no threat to anyone after being shot once already. And you say he deserved to die.

jpoon, you are a complete and utter disgrace to humanity, and should be ashamed of yourself for thinking that anyone "deserves" to be coldly executed when they were completely disabled, and no threat.
 

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CM156 said:
It's not that it has NO value, it's that it has LESS value. His mistake was trying to rob someone with a freaking gun! That's a pretty damn big mistake. No sympathy for those who want to deprive someone of their property without due process of law. The kid had no good reason to try to rob someone at gunpoint.
Your claim that his life doesn't have 'no value' is a bit belied by your statement of 'no sympathy'.
 

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CM156 said:
thelonewolf266 said:
Joseph375 said:
Maybe I'm a bad person but I really don't care. A robber is killed, and nothing of value was lost.
If you don't think a human life has value just because they stole something then your life is worth a lot less than the teenage kid who died because he made a mistake.
It's not that it has NO value, it's that it has LESS value. His mistake was trying to rob someone with a freaking gun! That's a pretty damn big mistake. No sympathy for those who want to deprive someone of their property without due process of law. The kid had no good reason to try to rob someone at gunpoint.
You say you have no sympathy for someone that tried to deprive someone else of their property but you do seem to have sympathy for someone that murdered a kid for no good reason that seems a bit fucked up.The kid was no threat he wasn't going to steal anything with a bullet in his head.I'm not saying robbery is right or that any of these reasons excuse him but he could have have been forced in to it by friends or maybe he wanted to buy something for a girlfriend but he was too poor or maybe he was addicted to drugs and needed money to fund his habit not everyone lives a perfect life and I don't believe he deserved to be executed for robbery.Plus think of the kids family and friends their lives have been ruined too.
 

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The guy wasn't defending himself at that point. The thief was no longer a threat. It's murder.
 

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thelonewolf266 said:
You say you have no sympathy for someone that tried to deprive someone else of their property but you do seem to have sympathy for someone that murdered a kid for no good reason that seems a bit fucked up.
I never said I had sympathy for the other guy. Both were acting like morons.

The kid was no threat he wasn't going to steal anything with a bullet in his head.
Good, we agree
I'm not saying robbery is right or that any of these reasons excuse him but he could have have been forced in to it by friends or maybe he wanted to buy something for a girlfriend but he was too poor or maybe he was addicted to drugs and needed money to fund his habit not everyone lives a perfect life and I don't believe he deserved to be executed for robbery.
He still made a choice to hold a gun at a man and demand that the person turn over justly earened money for little to no reason. I'm not saying he deserves to die, but I will not mourn his passing
Plus think of the kids family and friends their lives have been ruined too.
Oh well. Sad I guess. I'm sure the family of the pharmacist feel sad too.

Dags90 said:
CM156 said:
It's not that it has NO value, it's that it has LESS value. His mistake was trying to rob someone with a freaking gun! That's a pretty damn big mistake. No sympathy for those who want to deprive someone of their property without due process of law. The kid had no good reason to try to rob someone at gunpoint.
Your claim that his life doesn't have 'no value' is a bit belied by your statement of 'no sympathy'.
I disagree, dear reader. Let's put it this way: I think all life has some value, but that by evil acts, that value is lost. I don't have any sympathy for those who suffer due to their own choices. I have pitty, perhaps. But that is worth little.
 

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Harn said:
Murder is murder. Just because a (formerly) innocent man kills a guilty man, it doesn't change that fact.
And not just a man, but a teenager. I think that's why the sentence was so severe. That and the fact that he had the robber incapacitated and he proceeded to pump 5 bullets in him.