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Well I've recently tried playing Elder scrolls 2 Daggerfall. I've played Morrowind and Oblivion so I figured I'd give it a shot. I gotta say Morrowind really came a long way since Daggerfall. For starters the game looks like old school Doom with swords and sorcery. There's next to no draw distance when you're outside. You might as well be playing Silent Hill. Although it does have full motion video cut scenes with live actors which I thought was kind of cool.

You thought fast travel was bad in Oblivion. You haven't seen fast travel until you've played Daggerfall. There are hundreds of different locations and the game world is massive. You're main method of travel is typing out the location you want slecting it and fast traveling. But there's not much reason to visit all of the places since the dungeons are randomly generated each time. Enemies also re-spawn the instant you exit the dungeon. Speaking of dungeons they are massive in this game. Unfortunately thees no indicator or anything that shows up on your compass or map so you have to explore every inch of the dungeon to find your objective. A simple fetch quest can take several hours. Oblivion's system may have been a little dumbed down but Daggerfall's is just brutal.

Still there are some good aspects of it. You still have a ton of freedom in how you want to play the game. There's a ton of skills you can learn. You can climb any vertical wall in the game. And it does have an interesting story. The game isn't bad but it has a very steep learning curve.

Bethesda had relased Daggerfall along with Arena the first Elder Scrolls game as freeware awhile back. So if you want to give it a try you can download it for free from here.

http://theelderscrolls.wiwiland.net/?title=Daggerfall_:_DaggerfallSetup_EN

This version comes with dos Box already installed and set up so all you have to do is unzip it and run the installer. It also has some fan patches that fix a lot of the bugs in the game along with a couple of optional mods.
 

Vault101

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alot of games for the N64

that said Banjo Kazooie still holds up, Im not sure if Becuase of nostalga that I can look past the graphics (which still look cool form a style perspective) and apreciate the awsome gameplay now if only they made Banjo Kazooie 3....No nuts and bolts dosnt count....shut up it dosnt!

also if theres people around we could still have fun playing the orginal mario party, because its really just an electronic board game (and I win all the time)
 

EHKOS

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Arcanum looks like shit...still plays well tho. Fallout 2 has the worst movement system ever, but I was born in 93.
 

Rad Party God

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Plucky said:
The first Legend of Zelda, no offence. i know it was the start of an amazing series, but it hasn't aged well at all, the map was basic so you didn't knew which way you was going, leading to areas looking too simular to eachover and the fact that your're placed splatdown in a random spot near a cave with a guy who basically says "heres a sword, go nuts"...i just couldnt get into it, again im sorry. :/
You don't have to apology at all, I too, think that the first two Zeldas (NES) are pure and utter crap compared to A Link To The Past and Ocarina of Time.
 

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Julianking93 said:
Final Fantasy 7

It just looks godawful now.

The characters all look like little pinatas and like something a 3rd grader would draw in 10 minutes.
This is basically what I was going to say. Back in the days when this came out I thought it was like the holy grail of graphics or something, now it's just kinda shit.

Edit: Also Dungeon Siege, I loved those games when I was younger. Bought Dragon age: origins on the premise a lot of people where saying it was like an unofficial sequal (It wasn't, and I didn't like it too much "tactics" not enough hacky-slashy) So after the disappointment of Dragon Age I went out and bought the Dungeon Siege games, I wish I hadn't and just left them alone in my good memories.
 

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Vault101 said:
alot of games for the N64

that said Banjo Kazooie still holds up, Im not sure if Becuase of nostalga that I can look past the graphics (which still look cool form a style perspective) and apreciate the awsome gameplay now if only they made Banjo Kazooie 3....No nuts and bolts dosnt count....shut up it dosnt!

also if theres people around we could still have fun playing the orginal mario party, because its really just an electronic board game (and I win all the time)
I'd play Mario Party with you any time, but I'd rather play Mario Party 2 or 3, because the first one was brutal to the N64 analog stick. All those mini games where you had to rotate the stick as fast as you could only brought pain and suffering, both for my controllers and my thumb.
 

DustyDrB

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Morrowind. It was outstanding in its time but now it just is so ugly. Those character models look terrible. The combat is even worse. Anyone who is new to the game will be utterly confused by it, wondering why nothing seems to be happening and why the block button (I know, I know) doesn't work.

Games age. It's just an unfortunate truth about our medium. It's pretty unfair. Any cinephile can go watch an old classic like Rear Window or Citizen Kane and it still holds up great. The marks of age on such films even add to their charm in many cases (who hasn't tried to mimic any number of Humphrey Bogart's characters after seeing one of his movies?). It's even less an issue with books and music. Language has changed since some old books were first penned, but the differing dialects can also add to the experience. And translations are so well-done these days that books from other cultures as well as other times can still be loved. Videos games that age well are rare, and it kind of sucks. That's why I say if you have nostalgia associated with a game, then embrace it. Anything that adds to the experience is great in my book.
 

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SupahGamuh said:
Plucky said:
The first Legend of Zelda, no offence. i know it was the start of an amazing series, but it hasn't aged well at all, the map was basic so you didn't knew which way you was going, leading to areas looking too simular to eachover and the fact that your're placed splatdown in a random spot near a cave with a guy who basically says "heres a sword, go nuts"...i just couldnt get into it, again im sorry. :/
You don't have to apology at all, I too, think that the first two Zeldas (NES) are pure and utter crap compared to A Link To The Past and Ocarina of Time.
As an an old school gamer (which you very well may be) I must defend The Legend of Zelda. Its controls and exploration still hold up to play. I managed to get a hold of with LoZ anniversary pack and when I picked up the controller on my Gamecube it was like coming back to an old friend. The music is cute and perky and I enjoyed rediscovering old secret haunts.

Even if I played through the first quest in a day's time, I enjoyed almost every moment. Now, this can't be said about other old school games, as Adventure of Link was once my early favorites of the series but I found it, ten years later, to be a real grind.
 

Vault101

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SupahGamuh said:
Vault101 said:
alot of games for the N64

that said Banjo Kazooie still holds up, Im not sure if Becuase of nostalga that I can look past the graphics (which still look cool form a style perspective) and apreciate the awsome gameplay now if only they made Banjo Kazooie 3....No nuts and bolts dosnt count....shut up it dosnt!

also if theres people around we could still have fun playing the orginal mario party, because its really just an electronic board game (and I win all the time)
I'd play Mario Party with you any time, but I'd rather play Mario Party 2 or 3, because the first one was brutal to the N64 analog stick. All those mini games where you had to rotate the stick as fast as you could only brought pain and suffering, both for my controllers and my thumb.
Haha Most people I know didn't bother with using their thumb, using the palm of your hand now thats how you do it, but I swear I got a blister on my hand at one point, plus those analogue sticks always wore out, in fact now that I think about it the N64 controller was really strangly designed
 

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Mcface said:
deus X, jagged alliance 2.
The hell you say... Jagged Alliance 2 is still the best game in it's genre. Not that there are many games in that genre, but still. I still play JA2 regularly.
 

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Sly Cooper and the Thevius Racconus, with the second and third games having and open world multi character well drenched in dialogue and character. To go back and play the linear non open world with only sly, and having to get all these bottles to make the clue to get the safe code and get a substandard reward is disappointing.
 

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I'd go with the Shining Force series.
Great turn based strategy game for the time, but compared to how in depth they are these days... it can't hold a candle to them.
 

Imbechile

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Baldur's gate 1+2. Yes, flame me but the gameplay is so clunky.
The graphics still look nice. I'm still going to beat it :)
 

Antwerp Caveman

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DustyDrB said:
Morrowind. It was outstanding in its time but now it just is so ugly. Those character models look terrible. The combat is even worse. Anyone who is new to the game will be utterly confused by it, wondering why nothing seems to be happening and why the block button (I know, I know) doesn't work.

Games age. It's just an unfortunate truth about our medium. It's pretty unfair. Any cinephile can go watch an old classic like Rear Window or Citizen Kane and it still holds up great. The marks of age on such films even add to their charm in many cases (who hasn't tried to mimic any number of Humphrey Bogart's characters after seeing one of his movies?). It's even less an issue with books and music. Language has changed since some old books were first penned, but the differing dialects can also add to the experience. And translations are so well-done these days that books from other cultures as well as other times can still be loved. Videos games that age well are rare, and it kind of sucks. That's why I say if you have nostalgia associated with a game, then embrace it. Anything that adds to the experience is great in my book.
I must disagree. It's a well balanced and ginormous game. It has some drawbacks, storytelling is not perfectly structured and the diary doesn't work well. But I think Morrowind is still far better than Oblivion, that game was boring and had no atmosphere.
And all those bland characterfases...
"I am in love" *blank stare*
"I found treasure" *blank stare*
"I am going to die" *blank stare*
"I'm going to kill you!" *blank.... wait for it.... STARE"
 

zehydra

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ShakesZX said:
Super smash bros.

It just can't compare to Melee, let alone Brawl.
I beg to differ.

In terms of gameplay, I still think its the best.
 

Rad Party God

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tyriless said:
SupahGamuh said:
Plucky said:
The first Legend of Zelda, no offence. i know it was the start of an amazing series, but it hasn't aged well at all, the map was basic so you didn't knew which way you was going, leading to areas looking too simular to eachover and the fact that your're placed splatdown in a random spot near a cave with a guy who basically says "heres a sword, go nuts"...i just couldnt get into it, again im sorry. :/
You don't have to apology at all, I too, think that the first two Zeldas (NES) are pure and utter crap compared to A Link To The Past and Ocarina of Time.
As an an old school gamer (which you very well may be) I must defend The Legend of Zelda. Its controls and exploration still hold up to play. I managed to get a hold of with LoZ anniversary pack and when I picked up the controller on my Gamecube it was like coming back to an old friend. The music is cute and perky and I enjoyed rediscovering old secret haunts.

Even if I played through the first quest in a day's time, I enjoyed almost every moment. Now, this can't be said about other old school games, as Adventure of Link was once my early favorites of the series but I found it, ten years later, to be a real grind.
Yeah, well, maybe I played the first couple of Zeldas a bit late, I got to play them for the first time when I got on my hands the Zelda Collection for the Cube and, well, I'm not familiarized with the first game, but the whole thing of not having a real map for the overworld just dragged me off.

I love everything Zelda and I'm an old school gamer at heart, but the first NES Zelda wasn't simply my thing.
Maybe I'll get to play it properly sometime.
 

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Star Fox 64. I've started re-playing the original and 64. The original Star Fox had rockin' music, a high difficulty level, and was actually pretty dark. 64 had bleeps and bloops in place of music, could be beaten on a new players first or second run, and the story was basically Teddy Ruxpin in space. It was fun, but the original was truly awesome.
 

saffista

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Fallout.

I went back and played it again because I was having some nostalgia after Fallout 3 and it was nothing like I remembered.