Skratt said:
I'm not going to say I've been a perfect angel deserving of a halo. I used the achievement servers after almost a year of not using them and having no weapons to show for it. But now I have live with my big letter A on my chest as my stats are borked because of what I did. It bothers me every time I see them, but it was the price I paid for using an achievement server which I vowed I never would, but did. I don't think I'll use something like that for any other games because I like to see my actual achievements.
You can reset your stats. Oh, and if you haven't been on recently, odds are you'll be getting a halo. So good news for you.
Booze Zombie said:
I'm just annoyed that they call idling "cheating", perhaps if they'd said "no third party programs", that would've been better.
I was unaware that they meant that they were including idle servers when they said that. I'd still view it as a passive form of cheating though: you're still not playing the game to get the rewards. At least Achievement Box servers require you to actually do something.
Doctor Glocktor said:
The meaning behind hats was customizing your character. Idling took nothing away from that.
Strop trying to be offended.
Er... no. Hats, as mentioned in the promotional poster I included above, were intended as status symbols, worn only by the lucky and the longtime players. Hence, idling brings down their value.
Rusty Bucket said:
You've told this one a little bit wrong. When the random drop system was first introduced, it completely removed achievement unlocks. Random drops were the only possible way to get the new items, and it was definitely not well accepted by the community.
Ah, yes, that was the initial reaction. I was referring to after that, when achievements were put back in.
The idlers aren't annoyed that they got items taken away or that they didn't get the halo, they're more annoyed at the way Valve handled it. When the idler was released, the programmer of it specifically asked Valve if it was wrong. They didn't reply. The forums were at one point filled with people asking whether or not the idler was legal or if they would be punished for it. Again, Valve said nothing. Then suddenly, with no warning at all, they delete the idlers' items and release the halo whic has literally ripped the community to bits.
I'm not saying that the idlers were right to do what they did, but Valve released a broken system for items, then handled this situation in what i would say is the worst way possible.
I don't see how the system is broken, to be honest. The achievements system works well in rewarding those with skill and patience, while the randomized system gives the less gifted out there a fair shot at some good stuff. About the only things that were broken were that the weapon drops are random (as opposed to dropping weapons for the class you're playing), and that the hat drop rate was obscenely low: and Valve tripled it after the debut of the halos.
I also don't see why people would need to ask about whether or not this program was legit, given that it does the same thing as an aimbot: that is, it's a third party program that plays the game for you.
However, the FAG mod, and some of the shenanigans I've listed above, would seem to suggest that quite a few people ARE quite angry at those that have halos.
Flour said:
Can that cheaters lament thing also be randomly dropped?
No, only people who didn't idle get it, though it does do the whole "You found X" thing the first time you die after receiving it.
