One Million Moms Want Same-Sex Archie Comic Out of Toys 'R' Us

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Eggbert

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Jon Goldwater said:
...and he will live a happy, long life free of prejudice, hate and narrow-minded people.
This man may now be my new King of Smartasses for that. That was well done.

Also, dammit, people. Do you lot actually need to have an argument over this story? Cripes.
 

Helmholtz Watson

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Mortai Gravesend said:
Oh, so you're not for treating homosexual relationships as any different? Well that's news. You know, that being the point I took issue with.
...lol. Mortai Gravesend, ....go..somewhere..else..for..a..fight..ok?
 

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Adam Jensen said:
Children are being exposed to guns in toy stores every day. Can you spell 'hypocritical moronic bigots'?
Guns don't kill people, comics about interracial gay marriage kills people apparently.
 

Avatar Roku

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Mortai Gravesend said:
Avatar Roku said:
Mortai Gravesend said:
Volf said:
Mortai Gravesend said:
Volf said:
Realitycrash said:
Volf said:
Don't see the problem, parents should be able to limit what their kids see.
Well, then kids shouldn't be let outside, because whenever I walk down the street, I see promotions for violent movies/games/tv-shows/music or promotions for fashion/tv-shows/movies/music that appeal to sex, not to mention the commersials/shows that are on TV.
Or the news. Damn, the NEWS! Children shouldn't be allowed to watch the news.
Or read the news.
Or actually, go to school. Then you have to interact with other people, and they might you know, share information.

Edit: And more OT..What do these moms mean when they say "children shouldn't be bothered with what is hard to understand."? How hard IS it?
How about "Hey, some men love men, and some women love women, and they can get married too. It's about love."? Seems pretty simple to me.
I didn't say sheltered, just that parents should be able to control what subjects toy stores expose children to.
Yes, like let's cater to racists and not show interracial marriage. Oh wait a minute maybe we should avoid that example because it just goes to show that the only reason behind that kind of thinking is prejudice.
Follow DailonCmann's lead and refer to comment #162
Your reasoning for why you withdrew it didn't seem to address the criticism I made.
Easy man. I disagree with his position too, but he's actually been fairly reasonable and courteous. Besides which, you're getting into the part of it where you aren't likely to change his opinion, just let it die.
I'm not particularly fond of prejudice, no matter how nicely someone coats it and presents it.
Me neither, but this argument is done. Besides which, what do you hope to accomplish? You're not going to convince him, especially not while being so confrontational, and he's not even interested in arguing more. Just let it go, save it up for the gay marriage thread that will inevitably be up tomorrow.
 

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"This is the last place a parent would expect to be confronted with questions from their children on topics that are too complicated for them to understand. "

Is it too complicated? Is it? Or are you just too lazy to sit down and talk with your kids? Is it that hard to say "Sometimes when a boy and a girl love each other very much" and switch out the genders as needed?

 

Helmholtz Watson

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Mortai Gravesend said:
Volf said:
Mortai Gravesend said:
Oh, so you're not for treating homosexual relationships as any different? Well that's news. You know, that being the point I took issue with.
...lol. Mortai Gravesend, ....go..somewhere..else..for..a..fight..ok?
Hey, if you don't want me to point out the innumerable flaws with your post, don't keep replying. Otherwise I'll keep pointing out whatever bigotry, red herring, or false statement you come up with.
I suggest you take Avatar Roku's advice.
 

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Abandon4093 said:
Volf said:
Realitycrash said:
Volf said:
Don't see the problem, parents should be able to limit what their kids see.
Well, then kids shouldn't be let outside, because whenever I walk down the street, I see promotions for violent movies/games/tv-shows/music or promotions for fashion/tv-shows/movies/music that appeal to sex, not to mention the commersials/shows that are on TV.
Or the news. Damn, the NEWS! Children shouldn't be allowed to watch the news.
Or read the news.
Or actually, go to school. Then you have to interact with other people, and they might you know, share information.

Edit: And more OT..What do these moms mean when they say "children shouldn't be bothered with what is hard to understand."? How hard IS it?
How about "Hey, some men love men, and some women love women, and they can get married too. It's about love."? Seems pretty simple to me.
I didn't say sheltered, just that parents should be able to control what subjects toy stores expose children to.
Bollocks.

It's entirely up to the owner of the shop.

You could make an argument that some parents don't want to see their children exposed to toy guns, action figures or flashy fucking colours.

That means precipice nothing, it's down to the store to decide what they think is appropriate for them to stock. If the one million 12,000 mothers have such an issue with that. Take it to a court, good luck trying to convince anyone of sound mind that same sex relations are something children shouldn't know about.
Please read earlier on this page. He's retracted that.
 

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Yup another "moral" group that seriously.. needs to grow up
There is allot wrong with these "morality" groups. For instance they have to lie.. if you have to lie to make a point your point is not valid.

But well it is how american society is changing. The religious people are stirring as they feel the waves of change.. they know they are on the losing side of what is coming.
 

Helmholtz Watson

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Abandon4093 said:
Bollocks.

It's entirely up to the owner of the shop.

You could make an argument that some parents don't want to see their children exposed to toy guns, action figures or flashy fucking colours.

That means precipice nothing, it's down to the store to decide what they think is appropriate for them to stock. If the one million 12,000 mothers have such an issue with that. Take it to a court, good luck trying to convince anyone of sound mind that same sex relations are something children shouldn't know about.
Oh joy! Another person to fall in line with DailonCmann and Mortai Gravesend as they march back to comment #162
 

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UGH... are we really having this discussion? Let me put it how i see it, for a few pages after this I will be quoted a bit, then I will never be seen here again, K?

Homosexuality does not harm anyone.

There, that's my entire opinion. It doesn't personally harm me, and i can actually brush off any "advances" that are made.

Everyone who is against homosexuality is just afraid that some day a homosexual will make an advance towards them, its the only legitimate reason to dislike homosexuality. By the way, I don't care what your religion says on the matter, odds are it isn't my religion and I don't follow its tenants.

That's the root of the problem isn't it? Some people cant accept that some people don't share their beliefs. In their eyes, the people who don't agree just "don't understand" and need to be "made to understand". I know that pretty much everyone I know doesn't share my beliefs, and can accept that.

One side note, can anyone actually tell MY religion from this? Just curious.
 

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Neverhoodian said:
Huh, I wasn't aware Archie was still going after all these decades.

I don't think Toys 'R' Us has to worry. This is little more than a publicity stunt, a desperate and pathetic plea for attention by a group of people too stubborn and out of touch with reality to realize that they've already lost. They've realized that their intolerance no longer conforms with modern, progressive society. Instead of re-evaluating their stance, they lash out bitterly like a cornered animal.

12 Angry Men had the right approach for dealing with such people: ignore them. You deny them a captive audience and they have nobody to talk to but themselves.
Doesn't work. Look at the West Boro Baptist church.

In a twisted way, they're almost admirable. They just won't give up.
 

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Mortai Gravesend said:
Hey, if you don't want me to point out the innumerable flaws with your post, don't keep replying. Otherwise I'll keep pointing out whatever bigotry, red herring, or false statement you come up with.
Stop being so juvenile with this crap. Volf's maintained a mature demeanor throughout the entire debate, I strongly disagree with him but he's conveyed his points in a polite matter. You, however, are acting like a condescending ass. Regardless of your position on the issue acting like that undermines your argument and makes you seem petty. Let it be.
 

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Realitycrash said:
Volf said:
Realitycrash said:
Volf said:
Don't see the problem, parents should be able to limit what their kids see.
Well, then kids shouldn't be let outside, because whenever I walk down the street, I see promotions for violent movies/games/tv-shows/music or promotions for fashion/tv-shows/movies/music that appeal to sex, not to mention the commersials/shows that are on TV.
Or the news. Damn, the NEWS! Children shouldn't be allowed to watch the news.
Or read the news.
Or actually, go to school. Then you have to interact with other people, and they might you know, share information.

Edit: And more OT..What do these moms mean when they say "children shouldn't be bothered with what is hard to understand."? How hard IS it?
How about "Hey, some men love men, and some women love women, and they can get married too. It's about love."? Seems pretty simple to me.
I didn't say sheltered, just that parents should be able to control what subjects toy stores expose children to.
Then parents can vote with their wallets and go somewhere else?
If Toys R Us released a new GI-Joe action-figure, why should we allow that? Should parents have a say too? How about an easy-bake oven? Should parents have a say there?

No? Because these things aren't "offensive"? Well, neither is homosexuality.
It's not about homosexuality, it's about sexuality in general. Kids do not understand the idea of sex and until they do there's no need for them to be made aware of it regardless of orientation. There's nothing offensive about homosexuality but kids aren't ready to learn about homosexuality anymore then they are ready to learn about the ins and outs (heh) of heterosexual sex. You're thinking about this in an adult/teen manner, not a kids manner.

Also, the dude has an opinion, don't ram yours down his throat.
 

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Good to see no one is interested in backing down or even giving these idiots the time of day. The time for such absurd, short-sighted, and flat-out hateful sentiment is over, and what remains in this country may try to take anyone in arm's reach down with it, but it will breed no more.

...damn, I used to read Archie all the time, and now that I'm grown up, they start doing cool stuff like this. When I was younger, the best we got for coolness was lame spy stories and a crossover with the Ninja Turtles.
 

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SaneAmongInsane said:
Neverhoodian said:
Huh, I wasn't aware Archie was still going after all these decades.

I don't think Toys 'R' Us has to worry. This is little more than a publicity stunt, a desperate and pathetic plea for attention by a group of people too stubborn and out of touch with reality to realize that they've already lost. They've realized that their intolerance no longer conforms with modern, progressive society. Instead of re-evaluating their stance, they lash out bitterly like a cornered animal.

12 Angry Men had the right approach for dealing with such people: ignore them. You deny them a captive audience and they have nobody to talk to but themselves.
Doesn't work. Look at the West Boro Baptist church.

In a twisted way, they're almost admirable. They just won't give up.
Well, it hasn't worked on them because we haven't tried it. Have you seen those counter protests?

I can't blame the counter-protestors though; it's not helping in the long run, but god damn is it satisfying now.
 

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Thanks One Thousand Million Moms! Without you, I wouldn't have known that this exist. I'll be sure to buy and keep this issue for my yet unborn children.
 

RagTagBand

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One Million homophobic moms would be entirely more accurate, and i'm almost certain the the (Pinky to the corner of my mouth) "one million" moms is a load of shit too, I've found sources claiming that their facebook page has 44,000 members...but if it did it doesn't any more as it seems to have been deleted.

Plenty of Anti-onemillionmoms pages though, which probably equal (in total) the same amount of members, if not more.

Anyway, let them hate, vocally, I hope they pursue other highly publicized campaigns; People, in general, suck at progression unless there is something tangible to push against and there is nothing quite like a common enemy to galvanize the masses.