One word I never want to hear from anyone in the gaming community again.

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Mikkaddo

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I'm honestly more upset about the argument of games today that have "bad graphics" when clearly they don't. Now, I understand the idea of being "spoiled" on the games that have amazing graphics but there's a point at which it becomes too much.

Have any of you played the latest Dead Space on consoles? how about New Vegas? because according to many reviewers they both look like "shit" and both look like they came from the 90s.

This is bullshit . . . granted, Dante's Inferno looked like crap but that's because it had flat backgrounds usually with animated bits in them that were obviously a flat and sometimes even shiny surface and had bland even blurry enemies. THAT is looking like shit, Deadspace or Fallout don't look bad. Hell I deride a lot of games today for having the opposite problem.

Take a look sometime at every recent "realistic" game character face close up, you'll notice something very strange. They all have the pores of a 100 year old man who's gone through botox injections. Everything from adolescent children to old men and women have pores, veins, and lines in their faces that are so GLARILY obvious you can't NOT see them. This is the problem, we tried SO HARD to make realistic faces possible that we completely bypassed them once they were because we thought they still didn't look "real" enough. There's a reason why the ultra smooth skinned wax figures in museums look frighteningly real. Because they're anatomy is NOT exaggerated the same way the game character models is.
 

Vault101

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Mikkaddo said:
I'm honestly more upset about the argument of games today that have "bad graphics" when clearly they don't. Now, I understand the idea of being "spoiled" on the games that have amazing graphics but there's a point at which it becomes too much.

Have any of you played the latest Dead Space on consoles? how about New Vegas? because according to many reviewers they both look like "shit" and both look like they came from the 90s.

This is bullshit . . . granted, Dante's Inferno looked like crap but that's because it had flat backgrounds usually with animated bits in them that were obviously a flat and sometimes even shiny surface and had bland even blurry enemies. THAT is looking like shit, Deadspace or Fallout don't look bad. .
Dead space 2 looked like crap?

no way Dead space 2 was friggen gorgeous (you know...for a game involving dark ships..and horrible flesh monsters)

fallout looks "ok" not so impressive on a technical leve..BUT good enough not to be distracting

EDIT: I did play Dead space 2 on PC...but my PC is hardly top of the line
 

Mikkaddo

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Vault101 said:
Dead space 2 looked like crap?

no way Dead space 2 was friggen gorgeous (you know...for a game involving dark ships..and horrible flesh monsters)

fallout looks "ok" not so impressive on a technical leve..BUT good enough not to be distracting

EDIT: I did play Dead space 2 on PC...but my PC is hardly top of the line
which is exactly my point, Dead Space, Fallout, Final Fantasy all gorgeous games that somehow these days despite being just as shiny and great looking as whatever else is coming out are somehow "ugly" and the graphics are somehow "shit" it almost seems like it's proportional to how big the game is. I know Skyrim got this criticism too, which I don't understand since on PS3 I only see graphical problems if I LOOK FOR THEM.
 

Iklwa

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Et3rnalLegend64 said:
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"Hardscoping"

Now, I have no problem when people use this in a quickscoping match or whatever; but believe it are not, I have been insulted for looking through my scope for more then 1 second in a public game. Little kids call me "noob"(another word that I wish got a lot less use) because I actually snipe like you're supposed to and not quickscope all the time.
Oh hell yes. I never knew that actually looking through your scope was the wrong way to go about things. Idiots.

I also dislike the entire casual/hardcore thing. We're all gamers, let's be friends.
Also: "camping", which I always thought meant hanging around a spawn point. No, apparently it means waiting in any spot of the map with a clear view of a heavily trafficked area for more than ten seconds. I'm such an idiot for being a halfway intelligent sniper, I'm sorry!
 

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itsmeyouidiot said:
"Rehash."

99% of the time it's used, it's by a person who is deliberately looking for flaws in a game.

I tend to instantly lose any and all respect for people who use this word, because they're always using it in a way that makes it clear that they're trying to find flaws in a game where none exist.

Who here feels the same way?
I haven't seen it used much, but there must be instances where its an appropriate use, perhaps a sequel where they copied and pasted several levels, texture, whatever, possibly the new Zelda game would fall under a gameplay 'rehash' I couldn't say as I haven't played it.
 

A Weary Exile

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"Noob" needs to be eradicated from gamer vocabulary. A derogatory term for people who's only crime is not having started playing before anyone else? It's a stupid thing to say.
 

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"Games are Art"

Yes, we all love games but once you start trying to declare them as works of art you not only over-complicate the industry but you make games and by extension gamers seem like pretentious wankers.

Can't we just love what we do without trying to elevate it to some kind of pedestal? Who cares if some snobby, over-critical wing of society like video games or not? As long as we like them then it's all good.
 

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Smeggs said:
I only ever use noob when it's a player that thinks they're better than everyone else and yet they lag somewhere in the mid-section or bottom of the scoreboards at the end. Kinda thought that was the whole point of "noob," when someone was being a total moron because they thought their way was the best way and refused to use teamwork or take advice.

Or, y'know, the people who openly use mods and hacks.
But at that point, "newb" or "noob" doesn't even really describe them, does it? I guess it's effective if you want to call them something they aren't to stir them up, but still. I suppose it is meant more to describe the way they're acting then their actual history with the game, but I just have a bit of a vendetta against the word because I have seen it used so immaturely. That's really what it seems to me: immature.
 

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TPiddy said:
krazykidd said:
Unoriginal .

Sick and tired of people complaining that developpers are not doing anything new , but when they do no one buys ot or the look down on ot . Bunch of hypocrites i say.
This a thousand times over.... Alpha Protocol, Dead Island and Brink are just 3 examples of games that tried something new and got shit on....
Haha, you said that Dead Island and Brink tried something new. Thats funny
 

Razor Z7

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Hardscope or anything to do with Scope on the end. People bash me and certaintly other players because:
1: They think Quickscoping is the only way to snipe.
2: They think non-quickscopers aren't good at CoD, repeating "noob" and/or You suck.
3 (Not trickscoping related) They think CoD is the best game ever and bash other players for liking a game that's not realistic or a FPS.

Edit: MLG is a word i can not stand. Who cares if you are better than me?
 

Ryu-Kage

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People who use the labels "casual game" and "hardcore game" should be shot with some kind of gun that fires the gems from Bejeweled.

Why? Because 1.) neither casual games nor hardcore games exist, and 2.) even if such ridiculous labels did exist, they would be meaningless. "Casual" and "hardcore" are words that should apply not to the games but the players of said games. People could just as easily strive for the best strategies in Bejeweled as intense Starcraft players might. At the same time, is it really that much different for a player to screw around Clubhouse Games than it is for someone to just push buttons for a bit in Double Dragon?

Hell, you can't even really differentiate "casual player" or "hardcore player" without adding "of [insert game here]" to the end of it. For example, I want nothing to do with competitive Super Smash Bros. I pick characters that look cute or cool and try to fight, often with somewhat predictable moves. Many people view Smash Bros as a highly competitive game, but I'm just there to kill some time or something. I'd probably be a "casual Smash Bros. player". At the same time, I look at competitive Pokemon forums pretty often. I try to raise Pokemon that will do the most damage that I can muster or take the least from enemies. I try to make sure the types don't overlap in ways that open up massive weaknesses, and my goal is to defeat my opponent. I'd probably be leaning toward a "hardcore Pokemon player". Two games, two labels, one person. Identity crisis? (shrugs)

So seriously, if you spout off "casual game" or "hardcore game" around me, I'm just going to ignore the conversation and go back to trying to teach Hurricane to my Dragonite.
 

Aeonknight

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FFHAuthor said:
Aeonknight said:
I'm gonna go with racial terms here. I'd post the words but the mods may not like that...

It's pretty sad when I get hate mail from BF3 that they instantly resort to an outdated racial slur they learned was a "bad word" in school, for the shock value alone. It doesn't even apply to me, but I'm supposed to be offended because it's "The N Word". zomg?

Here's an idea: either update your racial slurs to something a little more creative... or stop sucking at the game to the point where you gotta ***** at me.
I see a marketing opportunity there...hmm.

"The Gamer's Thesaurus. 50,000 slurs, insults, innuendos and profanities you've never heard of! Take your online game-play mockery to the next level! Why improve your game when you can buy this to reduce your opponents and teammates of superior or inferior ability to simpering infants in utter awe of your ability to chastise their skill level! Also includes a bonus section on copycat and mimicry so you can even insult players who preform just as well as you!"
Write it and I will buy it. Not even kidding, would be an entertaining read, and worth a thousand laughs when I hear someone use a literal textbook insult.
 

Rad Party God

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Fleetfiend said:
BathorysGraveland said:
"Noob/Nub".

Seriously, the lamest fucking 'insult' ever imaginable. Hypocritical as well, seeing as we were all new to each game at one point.
Thank you. I hate when people call other players "noobs" like it was an insult. Honestly, why would you want to discourage someone new from starting the game? That's just stupid. Particularly in MMOs.
Pretty much any MOBA/DOTA game I've played, I've been called all variants of the word "noob", next to a long wall of text or a rant from someone over the microphone (AKA: yelling) trying to convince me to uninstall the game and then kill myself.

Also, casual, hardcore and immersive are so freaking overused they don't hold up any signifficance anymore.
 

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itsmeyouidiot said:
"Rehash."

99% of the time it's used, it's by a person who is deliberately looking for flaws in a game.

I tend to instantly lose any and all respect for people who use this word, because they're always using it in a way that makes it clear that they're trying to find flaws in a game where none exist.

Who here feels the same way?
maby if companies didn't rehash shit we wouldn't need to use the word.

Word i hate to hear is "SUCK" without following up why it does, or don't give specific well thought out reasons.

Example:
person-"Dude, half-life sucks"
me- "why is that?"
person-"because it just does"
me-"unless you actually back up your statement with a legit and well thought out reason on why you think a game sucks, i will ask you to just use the phrase 'its just not my thing' or some form of the phrase, and if you wish to keep this behavior up, then my dear sir/madam, go buy some Viagra/sex toy and go fuck yourself."
 

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How about searchbar. Actually you didn't really need to use it since you were the one who made the thread a few hours before this one. [link]http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.335619-Please-dont-criticize-games-for-being-similar-to-previous-games#comment_form[/link]

Well my reponse from the last thread:
TehCookie said:
Games should be similar to previous ones, but they should also tread new territory. The problem with people crying for innovation is they don't want to take baby steps. Take a working formula and tweak it a little bit so it's not the same as the previous but still keeps the good qualities. To a person who's not interested in the series, they probably won't notice or care and yell rehash. The thing is it is different, if only slightly.

I love the Disgaea series, and between each one they make a few minor improvements, however while 1 and 2 are similar 1 and 4 are not. They kept the basic mechanics and expanded them, but it was just a little at the time. If you only liked the series, you don't have to get them all, once it seems like they added and/or fixed enough content buy the next one. CoD may only include minor differences in each installment but go play the first one from this gen and the latest one. Honestly I haven't played any but I'm guessing there is a bigger difference than what most people would like to admit.
 

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4RM3D said:
I hate to break it to all you gamers, but I am entitled to say Skyrim is not a hardcore game. Also, it is an unoriginal game with a lot of rehash. I might even prefer a linear indie game if it means the game has some immersion and is not as brown as Skyrim, like for example Bastion. What takes the cake though is the arrow in the knee joke. Only noobs still joke about that.

Bazinga!
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[HEADING=1]Fanboy[/HEADING]
I can't fucking stand the word fanboy in any context. I even made a f***ing thread about it.
Search for it up top and you'll know what I mean. Worst word going, for me.
Here is a slow clap, for both of you. You both deserve it.
OT: I really hate the word "Rigged", or "Hackz", or any other word indicating that a game is unfairly balanced when in reality it is the fault of the played.
 

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LilithSlave said:
I wouldn't agree with that at all.

And that's not something you hear particularly out of the gaming community.

If anything, I hear too much hypersexuality. And "I can't help it, I'm a guy" stupidity.
Well you haven't been paying too much attention then. Which is a good thing, don't get me wrong.