One word I never want to hear from anyone in the gaming community again.
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You obviously have no idea what you're talking about and aren't willing to look at the evidence from our own culture. CAD is a perfectly legitimate repository for gaming knowledge, and despite the fact that Yhatzee took some potshots at it, it is a fine webcomic. You can't take potshots at the style of the webcomic as a way of discrediting the information, that's a logical fallacy called an "ad hominem." You're attacking the style of the source as a way to discredit the information provided. That's not a legitimate argument. Try again.BiscuitWheels said:
The name of the show comes from the scientific term, but has absolutely nothing to do with the term. The show is what popularized the term, and yes it does mean a dramatic shift. The original term "Quantum Leap" described movements of electrons and other quantum particles at the sub-atomic level. Nothing dramatic about that. On the other hand, a "Quantum Leap" as used by the show meant a shift from one character focus to another. Thus, a Quantum Leap on the show meant a true dramatic shift, changing the focus to a completely different setting and character. You seem to be trying to contradict me for no reason other than to be contradictory. Regardless, your first statement "No, it means a dramatic shift" is correct. It does mean a dramatic shift. "It has nothing to do with the television show." on the other hand, is fundamentally flawed. The show was where it gained its notoriety and its connotation as a dramatic shift, not science. Had it been purely a scientific term, it would simply mean "a tiny, random change of statistical importance, but very little individual importance."BiscuitWheels said:
So what your saying is in order to deal with silliness we must be more silly? Along that line I never want to hear the word game again. They should be called interactive player input entertainment devices.Mr.K. said:
Way to use one of the least linear movies in the history of film making as an example. Hooray for beginning and ending in the middle!Zantos said:
OT: Probably 'hardscoping' I can't stand people complaining about me using a sniper the way it was supposed to be used and not abusing the aim assist when I kill them.
I don't like it when people use that word, either. That and "Clone" tend to get misused frequently. I'd also like people to stop calling things they find disagreeable "Gay," and people they dislike "Fags." I'm also sick of seeing "Retard."
Words I'd like to see more? Peter + Stormare, preferably in the same sentence right next to each other.
Words I'd like to see more? Peter + Stormare, preferably in the same sentence right next to each other.
this is generally how it goes for me also, someone even remotely even THINKS "hardcore" and i instantly disregard them for being such a douchebag trying to shove their e-penis into everyones business.Fijiman said:
OT: probably unoriginal, especially if it is for a sequel of a game that is telling a story that obviously is going over multiple games. (such as GoW,Halo,Mass effect,etc...) if the gameplay/game changed THAT much, then that'd be frickin stupid to put them as a coherent series
This is what bothers me "brown", "grey", and "dull green" are not words you can use to describe a game simply because it isn't super colourful. Well, you can, if you want, but it means jack. Who cares if Fallout 3 lacks rainbows and ultra-bloom, does that make it any worse of a game? It's called "atmosphere".Vault101 said:
I don't ever want to hear the word "griefer" except maybe directed at somebody pulling down others houses in Minecraft.
Right so you hear the word 'rehash' and instantly assume:itsmeyouidiot said:
a) the person who said it is specifically looking for flaws
b) the person who used it is entirely and completely unrespectable, and
c) the game described, no matter what game, is always flawless.
What's one word I hate hearing? Assumption.
Actually, I like this reasoning.Squilookle said:
Saints Row 3 is a rehash of Saints Row 2 with a different city.
...Clearly, Saints Row 3 is now flawless.
Anything related to the 'games are art'
Yes, games can be art, that's fine. But the only reason the argument about that got as big as it did was because we were trying to justify our existence to some one who didn't like video games. That doesn't matter. Games should be fun. The more we worry about art, the more we're willing to sacrifice fun for the sake of calling it art. Example: The Graveyard
Games only need to be fun, I don't feel the need to validate my hobby with some one who doesn't like it.
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Also, the word dominated. Enough already.
Yes, games can be art, that's fine. But the only reason the argument about that got as big as it did was because we were trying to justify our existence to some one who didn't like video games. That doesn't matter. Games should be fun. The more we worry about art, the more we're willing to sacrifice fun for the sake of calling it art. Example: The Graveyard
Games only need to be fun, I don't feel the need to validate my hobby with some one who doesn't like it.
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Also, the word dominated. Enough already.
Actually, that's wrong. A good chunk of the reason it got as big as it did was California was trying to argue they weren't art to allow for banning sales of video games they found distasteful.Romblen said:
All things considered, if it's a choice between "games are art" or "games are subject to censorship because they're not art and therefore not afforded the same protections as film, books, television, and music," I'll rally round the former every time.
I guess technically that's not a different argument, but I doubt that was your intention since you say:
Howabout to someone who wants to ban it? Again, the thrust of Schwarzenegger vs EMA/Brown vs EMA was not just that it would forbid the sales of M-rated titled to minors, but also would allow video games to be considered obscenity under the purview of community standards.
Yes, the SCOTUS ruled in our favour. No, that doesn't mean it wasn't a threat.
Strip games of their "art" status, and you can actually outlaw them.
Addicting.
For fucks sake, its Addictive. This is not a difficult concept to understand.
Also, some of the completely random crap that Captcha comes up with. If your gonna give us wibbly wobbly black on white words to type in at least you could come up with some real ones.
For fucks sake, its Addictive. This is not a difficult concept to understand.
Also, some of the completely random crap that Captcha comes up with. If your gonna give us wibbly wobbly black on white words to type in at least you could come up with some real ones.
We really need a better line. This isn't a paradox anymore...hasn't been for decades if not longer.AD-Stu said:
OT: I hate the term hardcore, back in the day I called friends who could do crazy ass things in games hardcore. Now if you play an FPS you are "hardcore".
I basically just don't have any labels anymore. Now if Greg plays a bunch of shit and has this whole life around him, I call him Greg, not a gamer, just Greg.
I don't know any Gregs
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First, and foremost, it's "F2P-*Random insult*" from the less than welcoming TF2-community. It's as if they seriously believe that skill is determined wether you once payed for the game or not. And honestly, feeling bitter because a game that was released in 2007 have switched to a more efficient business model to maximize the content and upkeep for everyone is really rather sad.
Skill comes from practice, and I did just that before I lept into the multiplayer, to make sure I could contribute to the team. And sometimes, I actually contribute more than some who bought the game do.
Alright, and for a few others.
"Orginality";
It's as if the only valid form of creativity is to come up with something that has never ever been done before. Which is infuriating, since that is simply not possible, nor would it lead to much of a gaming experience. It's just like people feeling clever when they point out that a Donald Duck comic did the Inception-thing first, as if using one basic plot-device once (in this case, travelling into other people's dreamworlds) means it is VERBOTEN and may not be used again, or you are... *Gasp!* Unoriginal!
"Realism";
I like me some realism in the picture sometime. Like ArmA 2, which was more or less entirely commited to realism, and it worked. It wasn't just a stupid gimmick, and it really made the experience feel special. But there is a time and place, and just craming it in so that the teenage boys will be impressed isn't the right one.
"Camper";
Yes, sometimes its justified, like people just standing by a staircase to rack up kills without contributing anything worthwhile. But people tend to shout this if you take the luxury to stand still for five seconds and get your bearings. I mean, I like to play the classic sniper-role. Heaven forbid, then, that I adopt snipery behaviour like finding and maintaing a good position and spending half a nanosecond to aim.
"Omg, reading/listening to the story or ingame characters or books are boring";
...Is really bleedin' irritating when it's immediatly followed by complaints that the player in question has no idea of what's going on (Bioshock) or run straight into clearly visible and forewarned Deathclaw territory (New Vegas). No, all games shouldn't be required to spoonfeed everything to you, if you can't be asked to calm the frock down and get your bearings for half a second.
"Aspergers";
A very much real condition, and you probably don't have it. If it's not a proper diagnosis from a doctor, then I wouldn't attach much importance to it. Furthermore, don't treat it as a reason to avoid having to self-improve, or to behave yourself. Even if you do have aspergers, I'm sure you've already been asked to attempt to overcome that disability, not just sit there and use it as a shield.
"Woman! Make me a sammich!";
It's simply not a very fun joke, and I am perfectly aware that this statement alone will mark me out as a feminist tosser not to be listened to. But it's simply not funny.
On nerd-sexism in general, by the way; anyone who honestly has to resort to sexism all the time have no reason to complain if it's far between the lassies, if you see what I mean.
"It's colourful! Gaaaaaaaaaa-haaaaaaa-haaay!";
A counterpoint to the brown-thing (which I do agree on, brown isn't nearly as bad as described, and it sometimes fit the game), as mostly seen and whined about in Diablo 3. For some reason, actually being given enviroments that are pleasant to look at and easily identifiable is a cold-hearted treason upon all the fans who have waited so patiently for Diablo to once more lead them on to heaven. Furthermore, the whole gay as an insult-thing is... To put it mindly, you can zero in that person's mental age fairly well that way.
"Sandbox";
Could we perhaps come up with a more fitting term? Playing a game where I can travel and do things in which order I want doesn't strike me as much as a good sandbox-comparison. It's certainly well-fitting for Minecraft, but not for anything else, really.
"Aaaah, must have co-op or multiplayer!11";
While I agreee upfront that both are very nice things to have, I still think that some experiences are best enjoyed alone. There is a time and place for multiplayer and co-op. And that is not all the flamping time...
Skill comes from practice, and I did just that before I lept into the multiplayer, to make sure I could contribute to the team. And sometimes, I actually contribute more than some who bought the game do.
Alright, and for a few others.
"Orginality";
It's as if the only valid form of creativity is to come up with something that has never ever been done before. Which is infuriating, since that is simply not possible, nor would it lead to much of a gaming experience. It's just like people feeling clever when they point out that a Donald Duck comic did the Inception-thing first, as if using one basic plot-device once (in this case, travelling into other people's dreamworlds) means it is VERBOTEN and may not be used again, or you are... *Gasp!* Unoriginal!
"Realism";
I like me some realism in the picture sometime. Like ArmA 2, which was more or less entirely commited to realism, and it worked. It wasn't just a stupid gimmick, and it really made the experience feel special. But there is a time and place, and just craming it in so that the teenage boys will be impressed isn't the right one.
"Camper";
Yes, sometimes its justified, like people just standing by a staircase to rack up kills without contributing anything worthwhile. But people tend to shout this if you take the luxury to stand still for five seconds and get your bearings. I mean, I like to play the classic sniper-role. Heaven forbid, then, that I adopt snipery behaviour like finding and maintaing a good position and spending half a nanosecond to aim.
"Omg, reading/listening to the story or ingame characters or books are boring";
...Is really bleedin' irritating when it's immediatly followed by complaints that the player in question has no idea of what's going on (Bioshock) or run straight into clearly visible and forewarned Deathclaw territory (New Vegas). No, all games shouldn't be required to spoonfeed everything to you, if you can't be asked to calm the frock down and get your bearings for half a second.
"Aspergers";
A very much real condition, and you probably don't have it. If it's not a proper diagnosis from a doctor, then I wouldn't attach much importance to it. Furthermore, don't treat it as a reason to avoid having to self-improve, or to behave yourself. Even if you do have aspergers, I'm sure you've already been asked to attempt to overcome that disability, not just sit there and use it as a shield.
"Woman! Make me a sammich!";
It's simply not a very fun joke, and I am perfectly aware that this statement alone will mark me out as a feminist tosser not to be listened to. But it's simply not funny.
On nerd-sexism in general, by the way; anyone who honestly has to resort to sexism all the time have no reason to complain if it's far between the lassies, if you see what I mean.
"It's colourful! Gaaaaaaaaaa-haaaaaaa-haaay!";
A counterpoint to the brown-thing (which I do agree on, brown isn't nearly as bad as described, and it sometimes fit the game), as mostly seen and whined about in Diablo 3. For some reason, actually being given enviroments that are pleasant to look at and easily identifiable is a cold-hearted treason upon all the fans who have waited so patiently for Diablo to once more lead them on to heaven. Furthermore, the whole gay as an insult-thing is... To put it mindly, you can zero in that person's mental age fairly well that way.
"Sandbox";
Could we perhaps come up with a more fitting term? Playing a game where I can travel and do things in which order I want doesn't strike me as much as a good sandbox-comparison. It's certainly well-fitting for Minecraft, but not for anything else, really.
"Aaaah, must have co-op or multiplayer!11";
While I agreee upfront that both are very nice things to have, I still think that some experiences are best enjoyed alone. There is a time and place for multiplayer and co-op. And that is not all the flamping time...