Opinion on stem cell research

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Crusnik

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FYI: Nobody traffics in fetal stem cells. In fact, there is a rule of thumb that two weeks after fertilization, the embryo will not be harvested. Many scientists are pushing for this rule of thumb to become international law. Further, two weeks is well before the embryo becomes a fetus, which on average, is at around the 9 week mark.

And yes, I support embryonic stem cell research.
 

DannyDamage

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All for this. Advances our research, knowledge and saves lives\increases life quality etc. Barking the same comments as most I'm afraid. Sorry
 

stompy

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Armitage Shanks post=18.72004.744963 said:
Wow.. this is almost as one sided as that "Secret Ballot" thread.
True... but then, is there really an argument against it?
 

Eldritch Warlord

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stompy post=18.72004.744978 said:
Armitage Shanks post=18.72004.744963 said:
Wow.. this is almost as one sided as that "Secret Ballot" thread.
True... but then, is there really an argument against it?
Nothing besides that law we have against murder.

Now I'm a wholehearted supporter of science, and the belief that you should sacrifice the few now to help the many forevermore, that's just the other side.
 

Eyclonus

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I think Bioshock has made the internet in favour of stem cell research, so we can have a hand that shoots bees.
 

Eldritch Warlord

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Eyclonus post=18.72004.744998 said:
I think Bioshock has made the internet in favour of stem cell research, so we can have a hand that shoots bees.
I think the bee hand would feel too weird, all those bees crawling around. That fire hand though, all warm and biopyric (I did make that up), I want one.

But seriously, I've supported stem cell research since long before I've heard of BioShock, mostly because it has the potential to allow us to clone organs.
 

Trace2010

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Necessary for research into gene therapy and genetics. We also need to find a way to regrow nerves without myline sheaths (brain and spinal cord). Other than that...keep it under wraps. And NO CLONING OF HUMANS...there are enough of them born the natural way.
 

Eyclonus

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Eldritch Warlord post=18.72004.745001 said:
Eyclonus post=18.72004.744998 said:
I think Bioshock has made the internet in favour of stem cell research, so we can have a hand that shoots bees.
I think the bee hand would feel too weird, all those bees crawling around. That fire hand though, all warm and biopyric (I did make that up), I want one.

But seriously, I've supported stem cell research since long before I've heard of BioShock, mostly because it has the potential to allow us to clone organs.
Not really, we can make them a beneficial parasite, like have them keep mosquitos off our skin and harass pricks with body odour that puts a morgue with broken freezers to shame (Yes I have smelt both and it is possible to smell worse then a pile of dead bodies thawing out).
 

TheKnifeJuggler

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You know we don't even have to use egg cells anymore.

They've figured out how to make stem cells from already living cells.
 

Eyclonus

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TheKnifeJuggler post=18.72004.745028 said:
You know we don't even have to use egg cells anymore.

They've figured out how to make stem cells from already living cells.
But wheres the fun in that? You can't dick with Pro-Lifers like that.
 

TheKnifeJuggler

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Eyclonus post=18.72004.745032 said:
TheKnifeJuggler post=18.72004.745028 said:
You know we don't even have to use egg cells anymore.

They've figured out how to make stem cells from already living cells.
But wheres the fun in that? You can't dick with Pro-Lifers like that.
Well, where's the fun in not doing that?
I've argued with a few of my friends who are pro life, and I must say, it's pretty easy/fun to spot flaws in their logic and then expose them.
 

cleverlymadeup

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i think it's a great thing for us to learn about how we tick and how our cells grow and behave

there are ways for us to get them besides using ESC's. the sad part is a large amount of misinformation is out there and being spread and since it's from "reputable" sources the masses listen to them instead of scientists and people who actually know about it

we are just learning a LOT about our genetic makeup and how we become ourselves. one of the coolest shows to watch on the genetic subject is an episode of Nova called The Ghost in Our Genes, it's about the epigenome. best way to describe it is if our genome is the blue print of ourselves, the epigenome is the instructions on how to put it together

hopefully with a new president in the states can the world make some headway with this issue. the states isn't blocking it fully but certainly not helping any and they would make a HUGE contribution to making leaps and bounds in the field
 

Eldritch Warlord

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Damn, I really hate it when people refer to the US as "the States."

Firstly because it's just annoying to have people refer to me and mine in a way that I do not, but more rationally because everything with territory and a ruling body is technically a state.

But on the more pressing issue and hope for Obama, or sensibility from McCain.
 

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Alex_P post=18.72004.744739 said:
Janus Vesta post=18.72004.744723 said:
I'm completely for it. It could save many lives. And the whole 'What about the babies?' thing is obsolete seeing as they don't use aborted fetuses anymore, they use blood from umbilical cords.
Adult stem cells and cord stem cells are not quite as good as real embryonic stem cells.

-- Alex
Not quite true. Several successful therapies have been tested using adult stem cells harvested from one's own body, whilst therapies from fetal stem cells have had poor to disastrous results. Scientists and politicians are fond of saying that there is no disease that can't be cured with fetal stem cells - but you could make the same statement about Ryan Seacrest's ball sweat with equal backup. The basic problems with fetal stem cell therapy are that the stem cells are genetically different from the implanted body, meaning at the least a lifetime on immunodepressants, and that the fetal stem cells are pre-programmed to make a baby, not an organ. Not having the proper environment, they clump together to form growing tumors within the implanted body. I think the most promising therapies are derived from one's own stem cells; any organs or cells grown from those will not be recognized as invaders.

Fetal stem cells can still be very useful for research. We know a lot about how blastocysts develop into babies, but very little about the individual chemicals and precursors that are required. As scientists understand more about that, they will understand more how to turn on, and turn off, development and cellular specialization. It's a slippery slope ethically, but what science isn't? And even under the best circumstances, comparatively few blastocysts actually become babies.

I say devote the lion's share of resources to adult stem cell research, but continue fetal stem research as well to develop a better understanding of human development.