Opinions on Abortion

[high_castle]

First of all, no one, and I mean no one, enters into this decision lightly. But it IS the woman's right to choose. If your religious or moral beliefs conflict with getting an abortion, then don't get one. If you're a man...well, you don't really get a say, do you? You're not the one who will have to sacrifice 18 years of your life for a child, who will have to go through the pain and uncertainty of pregnancy and childbirth, who will have to give up career, education, or other opportunities. If you're trying to have a child, great. Have one. But there are women who make mistakes, or whose birth control fails, or who are raped. And no one should tell them they have to be a mother if they don't want to be.

According to economists Steven Levitt and Stephen Dubner, it's very likely abortion actually helped to curb the crime wave we were seeing in the 80s. Low-income women who before Roe v. Wade couldn't afford the illegal operations, now had access to free clinics. And instead of giving birth to children they then neglected or tossed into foster care, they got abortions. And those children who were growing up in droves as petty criminals, weren't being born. Crime rates started falling and haven't been back to those highs since. So abortion may have actually saved the lives of would-be victims of muggings and robberies and murders.

I know this is a hot-button issue. As a woman, though, I firmly believe no one should tell me what to do with my body. I happen to be very careful about the pregnancy issue, but so are plenty of women. Accidents happen. Plenty of women find themselves pregnant and don't want to be. Science has given us a way to end that dilemma before it can wreck lives. And to everyone who blithely suggested the mother give the child up, you have clearly never seen the foster care system. Even in the United States, it can be pretty horrible. Believe me. Who are you to say that child would be better off in foster care? Who are any of us? As I said before, the great thing about choice is that you can choose to have the abortion or not. If you don't want it/don't believe in it, then don't have one. Just don't make me adhere to arbitrary religious beliefs I don't share.

 

[Julianking93]

Pro Choice.

Its a woman's body. Its the woman's choice. Its not for the goverment or some dipshits on the corner of the street holding up sign's choice either, and it's not their fuckin buisness

 

[bookboy]

I support something known as circumstantial abortion, in my case, the circumstances mean that you REQUIRE the abortion for a proven and legitimate reason. more specifically, if you (the pregnant women) did not choose to have the child I.E. rape baby, then go ahead, or if you encounter some very serious circumstances whereby you would be forced to raise the child in an existence where they would be better off dead I.E. poor, starving, abusive parents, no hope for anything better, then go ahead and have the abortion, but other than that, you made the choice, and you are going to have to suffer the consequences.

 

[CliveMurdoc626]

I'm Pro-Life. Pro choice(at least from what I've seen) has only encouraged people to uncross their legs. I only support abortion in a few circumstances such as If theres a possibility of being born with a terminal disease, to much physical(life endangering) stress, or the product of a rape. I don't want to sound like one of those super religious "ABORTION IS MURDER!" twats (cause I'm not)but shouldn't people have a little bit of fucking responsibility and use some sort of protection?

 

[Vrex360]

I'm not pro abortion, but I am pro choice. Admittedly I believe in responsibility but a woman has a right to an abortion, I just think you need a better reason then just 'I don't want it'. If you are unfit to raise a child, have been raped and could never love said baby or anything like that then yes I support your view. What the Pro-lifers need to understand is that in these circumstances people who have no choice are often the ones who want an abortion because they simply cannot have a child for any complicated reason, their image of some lazy irresponsible people who scoff and just say:
"eh, I don't want it so I'll suck it out."
are practically non existant so putting that image in their heads just to give them an excuse to insult the women going in for an abortion is simply unjustified. Because abortion or not, no one is THAT cruel as to dump an unborn child just because they don't feel like having one. Most people in this world are able to feel compassion (holy shit did Vrex just say something positive about the human race? Oh my god I think he did.) and I respect the woman's right to do with her body whatever she wants.

I am Pro choice, people who claim Pro Life never stop to think about the lives around the unborn kid and how they might be affected.

 

[lava_lamp]

I'm a prolife/prochoice, my explanation:

1. Do I like the idea of abortion? Not really no, if I was pregnant I would carry the child to term
BUT
2. It is not my place, your place, or the governments place to tell women what they can and cannot do. That decision is between a woman and God, and them only.

this person sums up my feelings about it

 

[Paragon Fury]

Pro-choice.

However, being the compromiser I am, I say only during the first trimester, unless the mother's life is danger.

My reasoning for this is simple - during the first tri-mester, the fetus lacks too many of the characteristics of living beings in order to be considered "human" or even "alive". During the first tri-mester, the fetus is essentially nothing more then a parasite. Further, the first tri-mester is more then enough time to decide if you want to keep the fetus to full-term.

 

[kewlrabbit]

Pro-Choice. Until the baby is actually born, it's like a tree; technically alive, but you're not a murderer if you get rid of it.

 

[Citizen.Erased]

Pro-choice all the way. I don't even care if a woman uses it as a form of birth control.
You can't be selective when it comes to abortions. If it's okay for a raped woman to get an abortion then it's okay for everyone else.

 

[chronobreak]

I'm a dad of 2, 25 years old, and I had my kids when I was pretty young, and very unprepared. But, it was my fault for not using protection, and instead of saying "Wow, I'm not ready! Abort!", I had my wonderful kids and I boss'd up. Got another job, started working my ass off, and doing anything I could to support them, and now we're pretty well off. The thing I'm trying to say, is that it's not that hard to use protection, or to just abstain from sex period if you aren't ready for the consequences. I can't really see any way out of that.

Now, rape victims are a different story. I guess that's the only point I bend on right there, as I could not even begin to imagine how terrible that would be.

I have an idea, though, especially with teenagers getting knocked up all the time: make them have the baby. They go to school, they go to work, and if they don't, they get no money from our government, save food stamps or WIC to keep their baby healthy, and the day care we'd offer in return. I dunno.

I know some people are just not ready. I wasn't. But I made it work, no excuses, no bullshit. I didn't have to resort to terminating my kids. I'm sorry if it sounds ignorant to everyone else, but I guess it's just something I could never be a part of.

EDIT BOBEDDIT: Also, I'm very sick of this overpopulation crap. World fertility rates have been decreasing since after WW2. And masturbation isn't murder, you're releasing semen into something that doesn't fertilize it and incubate it for the sole purpose of becoming life. Do people really get this confused?

 

[Cliff_m85]

Don't knock it until you try it, my girl friend says that it tickles.


Joke

 

[RebelRising]

While I don't think it's right to decide whether a fetus lives or dies, I'm still pro-choice, 'cause that's just the way I roll.

I do strongly support euthanasia, though. Once that baby grows up and can make complex decisions by himself (let's say...eighteen), he should be able to decide whether or not he wants to go on.

Psych evaluations and consultations of family should still be standard, and I would hope that the majority of partakers are the old and terminally ill.

 

[pantsoffdanceoff]

Completely Pro-Abortion, I'll be honest, even if it IS a life I still say kill it. A) Its the woman's choice B) Over population is going to become a problem soon so it would be stupid to aggravate the problem. C) Stem cell research wooooooo!

 

[NoodleWoman]

This always seems to be, at the core, an argument about when life starts, not for or against killing babies. So I would like to ask what we consider to be life and if you are religious, when does something have or not have a soul?

 

[ExaltedK9]

OK. Before anyone asks, yes, I used the search option. I found lots of threads that had mentions of abortion, some that presented or asked for information on abortion, but none that actually invited people to present their opinions on it. I've seen too many political topics lately that descend into discussions on abortion, among other things.

So...Here it is. Let's get to the heart of the issue. I want people to post what they think, where they stand, and, above all else, why. Please, don't attack people for their stance on the issue, just post your opinion and your reasons for believing what you believe.

Here I go:

I'm against abortion, I hate it. I know that in dire situations that demand that either the mother or the child dies, abortion is morally acceptable, because it's a choice between two lives. Abortion is a difficult choice in any circumstance, and until we ourselves are put into that kind of situation (an impossibility for me) we can't imagine the emotions it must create. As much as it pains me to say this, I will not support banning abortion in its entirety, because I have no right to make that choice for another person.

Consider me a hypocrite if you want, but I'm so conflicted on this issue that I can barely get my thoughts straight.

I share your opinion, to an extent. I think abortion is murder. It's back so heavily by the government (liberals, to be exact) because there is a fortune to be made from it. The methods that they used to kill the already born babies are horrible.

Whe they are born...before they are born, they are alive. They are just as human as anyone else. If you don't want the baby, than don't have sex, because you are not fit to.

 

[NotAPie]

Its the womans choice, but if I had to choose, eh...its only okay if you know your not going to be able to raise the child, or if your just not ready to raise a child, but its all up to the woman.

 

[bodyklok]

Pro choice, womans right to choose ect.

 

[ExaltedK9]

Pro-Life. I consider abortion murder. Unless the mother is in danger of dying if she gives birth don't do it. Learn to use protection. If the women is raped I'm sorry but I still feel every child has a chance to a life. Give it up afterward.

You hate Obama, and you share my stand on abortion.

You're my friend!

 

[zeroharpuia]

*sarcasm alert* If you ask me the real problem is the process of making a baby, when a man becomes a mass murderer and kills millions of sperm, ending millions of 'potential' human lives. *end of sarcasm alert*

But seriously who cares? Go spend your time trying to solve REAL issues like: pollution, overpopulation, energy and disease to name a few.

 

[Citizen.Erased]

I have an idea, though, especially with teenagers getting knocked up all the time: make them have the baby. They go to school, they go to work, and if they don't, they get no money from our government, save food stamps or WIC to keep their baby healthy, and the day care we'd offer in return. I dunno.

I know some people are just not ready. I wasn't. But I made it work, no excuses, no bullshit. I didn't have to resort to terminating my kids. I'm sorry if it sounds ignorant to everyone else, but I guess it's just something I could never be a part of.

Should forcing them to have kids really be used as discipline?
In the end, if they don't want to baby, they're just gonna end up mistreating it or just not taking care of it. It's still the child that gets the worst of it.