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Ironbat92

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I really don't get the whole "CoD sucks because it's the same thing every year!" Really, it can argued that any franchise, Mario, Kirby, Zelda, Halo, Gears, Sly, Ratchet, and so on, can be argued is the same. Why only do this with CoD, or why does CoD get this excuse? Popularity?
 

Mid Boss

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I can't understand people's compulsion to kiss corporate ass. You say something against the rich, a game publisher, a corporation, and no matter how much that particular one you've mentioned has been a complete ass hat someone always jumps to their feet to defend them. I know not all of them are bad. Far from it. But people act as if the very act of being rich or being a corporation places you above all criticism.

Why?

They don't need, want, desire, or even acknowledge your defense. You're an insect to them! You're a criminal! You're a talking wallet with legs! You're an inconvenient barrier between them and your money! Why the hell are there so many out there on their knees for the people who show nothing but contempt for your existence?

There's always the argument "Well they create jobs!" Well I'm gonna go buy some strawberries at the store. Not only am I doing my part to ensure the store stays in business but the farmer too. That's a lot of jobs. And I'll manage to do it without being a prick. Where is MY horde of unquestioning ass kissers ready to defend my every action?
 

Proverbial Jon

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Why anyone's opinion that doesn't match my own, of course. This is the internet after all ^_^
 

axlryder

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Headdrivehardscrew said:
axlryder said:
Easton Dark said:
People earn your love like they earn your trust.
I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you on that. People don't need to earn love to receive love. I know I've felt love towards people for no real good reason before. The unconditional thing I'd be more inclined to agree on, but only in a formal logic sense, since total altruism is "technically" impossible, thereby invalidating a possibility for unconditional love.
I find it to be much easier to resist temptation of becoming beastly, mean, angry and compulsive with a sprinkle of self-service religious basics. I'm not interested in the fairy tales bits, just the basics of how to efficiently prevent degenerating into the beast I am in the face of whatever adversity might jump at me at any given point in time.
Yes, but in a religious context unconditional love is often associated with a being that has no earthly psychological limitations. Regardless, the term itself never actually even used in the Bible. Pastors do seem to have a fondness or it though. I'd agree that there's plenty of valid wisdom about living life to be found in religious text.

Headdrivehardscrew said:
I believe in unconditional love as a valid concept to not turn into a grade a asshole every time you feel like you've been cheated, lied to or otherwise emotionally slighted. Lack of tools to cope with less-than-stellar experiences is a huge issue for the human population of 2013AD/2556/5772/1433/1434/whatever we're to call it.
That's not really "unconditional love" as I'm referring to it though. I'm actually speaking of love existing without any conditions or limits whatsoever. The term is used in multiple ways, so there's likely just a semantic disconnect there.
 

Helmholtz Watson

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Katatori-kun said:
Helmholtz Watson said:
So..what about people who just don't like seeing men make out? What would you call those people then, because clearly from what you have showed me "homophobic" isn't the proper term,
Actually homophobia is the perfect term.

Well, no, scratch that. It depends on what you mean by "just don't like". If you mean a passive sort of absence of liking, as in: "I am watching two men make out and I feel nothing positive or negative as a reaction," then I'd say that's just ordinary male heterosexuality. But if you mean an active dislike, as in: "I am seeing two men make out and I feel repulsed and will consequently take some action to prevent myself from seeing it further," then that does sound perfectly described by homophobia.

Not every homophobe is secretly gay (though a lot do seem to be). I would venture that most are simply insecure about the possibility that they may be "insufficiently straight".
But I don't hate gay people, I just wouldn't want to watch two gay men make out.
 

Phasmal

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Also adding, people who believe fake geek girls are a thing and also wonder why more girls don't play. And nerd elitism.
Those things just make no sense to me at all.
 

Helmholtz Watson

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Katatori-kun said:
Helmholtz Watson said:
Katatori-kun said:
Helmholtz Watson said:
So..what about people who just don't like seeing men make out? What would you call those people then, because clearly from what you have showed me "homophobic" isn't the proper term,
Actually homophobia is the perfect term.

Well, no, scratch that. It depends on what you mean by "just don't like". If you mean a passive sort of absence of liking, as in: "I am watching two men make out and I feel nothing positive or negative as a reaction," then I'd say that's just ordinary male heterosexuality. But if you mean an active dislike, as in: "I am seeing two men make out and I feel repulsed and will consequently take some action to prevent myself from seeing it further," then that does sound perfectly described by homophobia.

Not every homophobe is secretly gay (though a lot do seem to be). I would venture that most are simply insecure about the possibility that they may be "insufficiently straight".
But I don't hate gay people, I just wouldn't want to watch two gay men make out.
Homophobia doesn't have to mean overt hatred.

But once again you're being ambiguous with your terms. Does "don't want to watch" mean you have no particular interest in seeing two gay men make out but have no problem with it if you did? Or does it mean you actively avoid any occasion where you might see two gay men make out to a greater degree than you avoid seeing heterosexual people make out?
I'm not saying that I would tell them to stop making out, just that I never want to watch Brokeback Mountain.
 

The White Hunter

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I don't understand why anyone would bother to be homophobic. It's such a waste of energy. Charlie Brooker [http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/apr/15/charlie-brooker-gay-video-game] summed it up pretty well.

It must be awful, being a homophobe. Having to spend all that time obsessing about what gay people might be doing with their genitals. Seeing it in your mind, over and over again, in high-definition close-up. Bravely you masturbate, to make the pictures go away, but to no avail. They're seared onto your mental membranes. Every time you close your eyes, an imaginary gay man's imaginary penis rises from the murk, bowing ominously in your direction, sensing your discomfort. Laughing. Mocking. Possibly even winking. How dare they, this man and his penis? How dare they do this to you?

Obviously you can't fight the big gay penis in your head. It has no physical form, so you can't get a grip on it, much as you'd like to. You'd love to grab it and throttle it until it splutters its last. That might bring you closure. But no. So you do the next best thing. You condemn homosexuals in the real world. Maybe if they could just stop all this "being gay" business for 10 minutes, you'd get some respite from that scary headcock. It might shrivel away completely, leaving nothing behind. Except maybe a nice bit of bum.

No, dammit! Forget I said that! No bum either!
Well damn there's my post kinda mooted already. Good job kind sir.

I shall add that discrimination for being bisexual has never made sense to me, mostly because most of the things thrown at you for being bisexual are stupid.

Explain to me again oh wise asshole how being capable of being attracted to multiple genders in any way equates to have 4 of each gender lined up at a time?
 

The White Hunter

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Tom_green_day said:
In Britain, I don't understand why our NHS still caters to obesity. True there is the genetic type that is passed down in the family
There is that but even then being 30 stone and eating nothing but fast food and ready meals whilst never doing a sinlge bit of physical exercise should not be rewarded with free life support.

It should be rewarded with a treadmill and a carrot and some form of shotgun diplomacy where "Run or die fatty" is applied to choice people.

I don't understand how people can, of their own volition, reach the point where they can no longer see their own genitalia and think to themsevles "yep, this isn't an affront to nature itself, I deserve all the medical care and stuff I get because I have diabetes from all that shit I force into my body without considering the consequence.".
 

The White Hunter

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Headdrivehardscrew said:
For me, that would be...

the whole carbon emissions and climate change scam.

There's only so little we can do to do better, and instead of making mankind work in unison to fix the (severe) issues at hand, we come up with carbon emissions money redistribution schemes and wet dreams of new manbeast cattle. It's a shame.

I respect people that genuinely believe in it and plain don't know better, but I have severe issues with the folks selling us those dreams and fears and renewable energy horrors.

Don't get me wrong, I'm an inventions addict, I think it's our most important purpose in life to overcome issues and problems and get better at everything and I am pretty hyped about, say, supercapacitors. But the same folks selling us man-made climate change and second earth shit are the very same folks that were calling doomsday on the last ice age that didn't happen just until they changed their tune and created the global warming/climate change bandwagon. We got smart folks working on actual scientific progress, but they live shitty lives in the current political climate. Most people aren't even aware that the IPCC predictions were so far off they actually have to consider most of their core stuff to be refuted, but the CO2 moneytrain has already derailed and is still merrily chugging along tearing states, societies and, in the end, mankind a new one. It's a pity.
Not to mention all those people who will oppose any kind of clean energy production such asz nuclear plants and wind farms whilst also being incredibly self righteous about the environment.

Yeah, fuck those guys.
 

itsmeyouidiot

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Headdrivehardscrew said:
For me, that would be...

the whole carbon emissions and climate change scam.

There's only so little we can do to do better, and instead of making mankind work in unison to fix the (severe) issues at hand, we come up with carbon emissions money redistribution schemes and wet dreams of new manbeast cattle. It's a shame.

I respect people that genuinely believe in it and plain don't know better, but I have severe issues with the folks selling us those dreams and fears and renewable energy horrors.

Don't get me wrong, I'm an inventions addict, I think it's our most important purpose in life to overcome issues and problems and get better at everything and I am pretty hyped about, say, supercapacitors. But the same folks selling us man-made climate change and second earth shit are the very same folks that were calling doomsday on the last ice age that didn't happen just until they changed their tune and created the global warming/climate change bandwagon. We got smart folks working on actual scientific progress, but they live shitty lives in the current political climate. Most people aren't even aware that the IPCC predictions were so far off they actually have to consider most of their core stuff to be refuted, but the CO2 moneytrain has already derailed and is still merrily chugging along tearing states, societies and, in the end, mankind a new one. It's a pity.
This is something I don't understand.

People who claim Global Warming is a "scam" obviously haven't actually taken a look at the data. With arctic ice core samples we are able to measure the relative amount of CO2 in the atmosphere over the past several millenia.

Right now there is more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere than there has been in ten thousand years. How anyone can think that this isn't a problem is utterly beyond my comprehension.
 

Sonofadiddly

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The only thing I can't understand is when people hold opinions that are in direct contradiction to their other opinions. Like the idea that "big government" should stay out of our business but then fighting tooth and nail to regulate my uterus as much as possible and have the government define what marriage is. I mean I get the pro-life opinion, very much, and I can even understand that people who do sexual things you're not used to thinking about might give you the willies. I just don't get how they can stand the cognitive dissonance.
 

MarsProbe

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SkarKrow said:
Not to mention all those people who will oppose any kind of clean energy production such asz nuclear plants and wind farms whilst also being incredibly self righteous about the environment.

Yeah, fuck those guys.
Then there's the type that oppose the building of nuclear power plants, stating we should going for renewables like wind power (which will be better for the environment, allegedly) who then also oppose the building of wind farm claiming that yes, the wind turbines will be harmful to the environment. Well, until we find out how to extract energy directly from cucumbers, it's going to have to be one or the other. And by "one or the other" I do of course mean nuclear.

Also, not an opinion I don't understand (well, I did sort of understand it a long while back but yeh, I got over it), but more one I can't understand why it's still around. Unfortunately, yes, I'm going back to the old ME3 ending chestnut. Perhaps inspired by the news popping up in my FB feed about the final batch of ME3 DLC - accompanied by - you've guessed it - griping about the game ending. Really people, are you actually still genuinely complaining about this, even now? Are your lives really that devoid of purpose that the ending to a mere game you played nearly a year ago still holds that much sway over you? Really if I could find these people, I would gladly shake them until I collapsed of exhaustion/dehydration/malnutrition if there was even the slightest hope that such an act would kickstart their brains again.

Also, I don't understand the ill will towards Iron Man 2. More than once I've heard that film being referred to as a "mistake" - I just don't get that at all. I found that film to be perfectly enjoyable - easily better than the first one too. But hey, I don't read Marvel at all, so what do I actually know about it?
 

Skullpanda

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Fortunately, I can at least understand some of the thinking behind most opinions. Not all of them, true. But most. There are notable exceptions such as the thought that one of the sexual orientations is a disease that can be cured (and I've heard this argument for all of them).

The one thing that just confuses me, however, is when people try to tell me I'm less safe because I take martial arts and self defense classes. It...just confounds me. Especially since a vast majority of my training has also included how to avoid situations where I would need what I'm learning in the first place.
 

Helmholtz Watson

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Katatori-kun said:
Let's say there's a heterosexual romance drama show you are completely ambivalent about. Brokeback Mountain is on TV. Those are your only two choices, and you can't turn off the TV. Do you switch the channel from Brokeback to watch the heterosexual romance? If so, then yes, you're a little bit homophobic.
Yes I would.

I guess were discussing a very subjective subject, but I still feel that Homophobic isn't the right word to describe me lack of desire to watch men make out, considering the fact that I don't hate homosexuals nor do I advocate violence against them. I mean where do you draw the line between personal preference and Homophobia? I mean would it be homophobic for me to go on a porn site that offers different kinds of videos and have the option to watch gay porn but refuse to do so and only watch straight[footnote]While I'm aware that some straight guys like Lesbian porn, I'm not referring to that. I'm referring to stuff where a man and a women are having "regular" sex and where no phallic objects are involved.[/footnote] porn?
 

Helmholtz Watson

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SkarKrow said:
Not to mention all those people who will oppose any kind of clean energy production such asz nuclear plants and wind farms whilst also being incredibly self righteous about the environment.

Yeah, fuck those guys.
Well as someone who feels that the most important politic issue in modern times is the environment and clean energy, I think I can help explain why some people(such as myself) are hesitant to embrace nuclear plants. The issues I have with nuclear plants are that I haven't really seen any safe ways of getting rid of nuclear waste other than just burring it and thinking "out of sight, out of mind". That's not even getting into the concern about how you would transport the nuclear waste to the dumping/storage site. In addition to that, there is the fear that what happened in Japan could also happen at other nuclear power plants as well. Hope this clears things up.

As for wind farms, I don't oppose them so I don't really know why other people are opposed to them. Maybe they are a serious threat to birds or something, but I'm just guessing.