Origin Devs respond with Why Origin is not optional for ME 3

[BaronIveagh]

You guys will all get a laugh out of this:

Over on Origin's site, since the hate for Origin has finally overflowed the riverbanks of Bioware's site and poured into the actual right forum for discussing Origin...

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/30/8062973.page

EA dev 'dmex', when asked why Origin was mandatory for ME3 "Origin is mandatory for ME3 due to library dependencies required for various functions e.g. EA authentication functions."

Meaning Origin serves as the DRM. When this was pointed out, the same Origin dev responded:

"No, Origin does not include DRM."

This is one of the devs for Origin saying this: I think now we know why it's terribad to the point that the customer support guy for ToR recommended uninstalling Origin. For not having DRM, Origin actually shuts down the running game if it gets turned off.


So, people, there you have it: Origin is the replacement for securom, as far as EA is concerend.

 

[GrandmaFunk]

"No, Origin does not include DRM."

apparently this dev doesn't get what mandatory authentication means.

 

[jpoon]

There will be an origin crack for this game, just like there is for BF3. Just give it some time and someone will strip the shitbox that is origin out of ME3.

 

[BaronIveagh]

I mean, I bought the damn game, WTF should I have to turn to pirates in order to play it without having to deal with Origin????

 

[Zhukov]

Facepalm material.

I'm surprised they managed to get into a direct conversation with one of the devs.

 

[BaronIveagh]

I think the PR flack gave up when repeating the 'EA will support Origin till the end of time' shtick failed to convince anyone. I suppose we should thank M$ for having bailed on a system with a much bigger registered user base when talking to EA PR flacks.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

I bet pirates will have no problem playing it and installing hacked DLC for it. They might even be able to play the multiplayer. And all without Origin.

Everyone knows why you don't want to release it on Steam. Cut the crap already.

 

[AlternatePFG]

Origin is certainly a nuisance, but is it really a surprise that EA would make ME3 exclusive to Origin for PC? I mean, they want to advertise their (Still relatively new, if you don't count the old EA Download Managers) digital distribution service, and it makes sense to tie it to a popular game to force people into downloading it. There are a lot of games that can only be played on Steam too, despite buying the disc version, and they all aren't Valve games either.

Origin is certainly a subpar system, don't get me wrong, but it's not like EA is going to come out and say "It's Origin only cause we want more people to use Origin".

Origin serves as DRM as the same way Steam serves as DRM. Don't really know the difference, aside from one being better than the other.

 

[ResonanceSD]

You guys will all get a laugh out of this:



Meaning Origin serves as the DRM. When this was pointed out, the same Origin dev responded:

"No, Origin does not include DRM."

.... I thought EA weren't a) allowed to lie like that b) allowed to employ people who don't know anything about their own industry -_-


Oh yes, and I laughed

 

[GrandmaFunk]

EA apparently isn't the only corporation that does this.

the story isn't so much about the fact that they do it, it's that they try to sweep it under the rug.

and that this guy was an idiot for making that statement.

 

[thatonedude11]

Why are people still up in arms about Origin? It records some system data and sends it to EA. Guess what? Probably 50% of the software on your machine is allowed to do that. Why does no one care that Blizzard can see what programs you're running while playing World of Warcraft?

Okay, Origin isn't a great service, and EA should try to get people to use it via sweet promotional offers, not by forcing you to use it. But seriously people, it's not worth passing up a game you want for.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

Origin is certainly a nuisance, but is it really a surprise that EA would make ME3 exclusive to Origin for PC? I mean, they want to advertise their (Still relatively new, if you don't count the old EA Download Managers) digital distribution service, and it makes sense to tie it to a popular game to force people into downloading it. There are a lot of games that can only be played on Steam too, despite buying the disc version, and they all aren't Valve games either.

Origin is certainly a subpar system, don't get me wrong, but it's not like EA is going to come out and say "It's Origin only cause we want more people to use Origin".

Origin serves as DRM as the same way Steam serves as DRM. Don't really know the difference, aside from one being better than the other.

basically my feelings on it, if you went to the steam forums you would see just as much complaining about similar issues on games, it's just steam has been around for frickin ever that it doesn't take flack for having steam required installations.

yeah it sucks that it requires origin, but did anyone REALLY expect it not to be? i mean let's be realistic here guys..

 

[BaronIveagh]

Why are people still up in arms about Origin? It records some system data and sends it to EA. Guess what? Probably 50% of the software on your machine is allowed to do that. Why does no one care that Blizzard can see what programs you're running while playing World of Warcraft?

Okay, Origin isn't a great service, and EA should try to get people to use it via sweet promotional offers, not by forcing you to use it. But seriously people, it's not worth passing up a game you want for.

Sorry, I prefer my DRM not to prevent me from playing the games I buy, which seems to be regular refrain on their forums. I particularly enjoyed the bug that prevented people from installing KoA:R from the disk at all and forced them to do a 7 gig download if they wanted to install it.

So, let's see, it's spyware that actually prevents you from playing your games. Why would I not want/be angry about it?

The best part is their own tech support tells people they won't use it themselves, and recommend uninstalling it.

 

[Canadish]

Why are people still up in arms about Origin? It records some system data and sends it to EA. Guess what? Probably 50% of the software on your machine is allowed to do that. Why does no one care that Blizzard can see what programs you're running while playing World of Warcraft?

Okay, Origin isn't a great service, and EA should try to get people to use it via sweet promotional offers, not by forcing you to use it. But seriously people, it's not worth passing up a game you want for.

Why are people still defending a company that doesn't give a fuck about them and uses bully tactics to force needless & useless DRM down their throat?
Why are they defending a company that stifles creativity and abuses their employees?
Why are they defending a company that is trying to waste their time, harddrive space, and destroy their privacy rights, just to appease their stockholders?

Why are people so keen to jump to the defense of the bad guy, and throw all their self respect out the window?
Even if other people do it, it doesn't justify EA doing it.
For the record, I don't support Activision either, I agree, people should take a stance on those knobs as well.

 

[Pandabearparade]

But seriously people, it's not worth passing up a game you want for.

It's enough to pass on a game I'm on the fence about, though.

 

[Tayh]

Why are people still defending a company that doesn't give a fuck about them and uses bully tactics to force needless & useless DRM down their throat?
Why are they defending a company that stifles creativity and abuses their employees?
Why are they defending a company that is trying to waste their time, harddrive space, and destroy their privacy rights, just to appease their stockholders?

Why are people so keen to jump to the defense of the bad guy, and throw all their self respect out the window?
Even if other people do it, it doesn't justify EA doing it.
For the record, I don't support Activision either, I agree, people should take a stance on those knobs as well.

Ohh. Heh. Thought you were talking about steam.
Because. You know.
They do the same thing. Except they also take all your game stats and publish them for the world to see.

So many months after origin was released, the blatant hipocrisy is still oh-so-entertaining.

 

[Pandabearparade]

So many months after origin was released, the blatant hipocrisy is still oh-so-entertaining.

The difference between Origin and Steam:

Steam sells games a hell of a lot cheaper.

Yeah, that's enough for me to not hate them. EA wants to stop using Steam so they can make sure no game ever goes for under twenty bucks, even if it's ten years old and barely functional.

 

[NerfedFalcon]

Ohh. Heh. Thought you were talking about steam.
Because. You know.
They do the same thing. Except they also take all your game stats and publish them for the world to see.

While Origin is taking your computer stats (including all the programs you run and when) and selling them for third parties to see, and you can't sue them for it. At least with Steam's stats (which aren't in every game), you can show off.

 

[Candidus]

And Steam is better than this in... what way? Steam is DRM, and Steam is just as snoopy in the registry and elsewhere as is Origin. So far, I can find no reason to reject Origin unless I also reject Steam.

Never mind that this EA admin doesn't seem to understand that mandatory authentication does in fact equal DRM. His misunderstanding doesn't make Origin any worse than it is, and what is it? Functionally identical to Steam in every conceivable way. So what's the problem guys?

Edit: Before the opt-out stuff is mentioned, opting out of Steam data gathering doesn't stop it checking the very same files in your registry that Origin's checking of got people super-mad about. Steam watches you access programs on your computer, it scans your registry and it does so whether you're opting out or not.