Origin vs Steam

[Kevlar Eater]

I won't be buying games from Origin. The last thing I want is EA banning me from my singleplayer games just because I said something they don't like (which is why i don't ever post on any forums under EA's umbrella).

Then there are the ultra-apathetic fanbois that would blindly agree with my potential banning, proclaiming "the rules are the rules". Personally, I'd like to see them with all of their fingers broken or rolling on hot coals, hogtied.

 

[Jeffrey Rodriguez]

Any one who says Origin works for E.A.

Seriously Steam is the only place you can get PC VALVE games, have you owned one of those? Its pretty great.

Who really cares about Valve games, overblown piece of dung in my opinion. The only somewhat interesting one is better purchased on Xbox Marketplace anyways, Portal Still Alive. So, I hope Origin has a chance to grow and topple Steam.

 

[Aris Khandr]

who the hell would want an EA game over a Valve game? No, seriously.

Me. Valve makes almost exclusively FPS games. And while I enjoyed Portal, I'm not really a fan of the FPS genre. EA publishes all sorts of games. From FIFA to the Bioware library to the Sims. I'd gladly take EA's options over Valve.

What is you toughts? does Origin stand a chance? or does it just fill a niece in the Digital distribution market?

I'm pretty sure filling a niece is pretty illegal in many countries. =p

I'm someone's niece. I'm also well past the age of consent, and could get filled if I so chose. We don't stop being someone's niece when we turn 18.

 

[Pedro The Hutt]

I was referencing the incest part rather than the age of the hypothetical niece.

Anyhow, the problem with Origin, though, is, Valve publishes games from every publisher willing to work with them on Steam. As far as we're aware, Origin will purely be for EA games, no matter how much you like the Sims or FIFA or Mass Effect, that still is a pretty limited catalogue.

 

[CrystalShadow]

Wait... So, EA has launched a digital distribution service, and they called it Origin?

Anyone else think of Wing Commander?

It's probably not even that much of a coincidence. Origin was purchased by EA way back in 1992...

Origin as a game development company stopped existing in 2004, but since EA owned it...

Well, huh. Seems quite odd somehow.

 

[Scizophrenic Llama]

I don't see the appeal aside from a few of the games that will be on it, but Steam still has the bigger library of games and I doubt EA will do the same crazy deals that Valve puts out on a daily/weekly basis.

 

[IKWerewolf]

OK lets hit the brakes and ask the question, if both Valve and EA had to build their system up today. Who would be able to build the best system from the ground up today?

EA has the power money wise and can make a system that is bigger and better than that of Valve

However you have to ask who would be better from the customers.

EA is too big to understand customers as has been proven by the way they have been handling DRM and the Persistent online connection, Project Ten Dollar and the Marketing processes.

Valve on the other hand knows how to deal with indie and independent companies and in fact would attract Indie titles that would allow them to expand faster than EA. At the same time the ethics of Valve would mean a better expierience overall. They would also keep the automatic updates which I find useful in order to keep me enjoying the game.

EA's Marketing system would win out to begin with, however when consumers discovered that EA still has problems with ripping off customers, it would collapse.

Valve on the other hand would have a slow start however because they are not throwing tens of millions at it, they would still profit and it would grow from there.

In business a fast expansion normally results in collapse at a later date due to major mistakes and failures that millions of people would expierience (EA). However if the mistakes are only occuring to one or two people and the system can cope with correcting errors as they go then they would win in the end (Valve).

 

[Elsarild]

OK lets hit the brakes and ask the question, if both Valve and EA had to build their system up today. Who would be able to build the best system from the ground up today?

EA has the power money wise and can make a system that is bigger and better than that of Valve

However you have to ask who would be better from the customers.

EA is too big to understand customers as has been proven by the way they have been handling DRM and the Persistent online connection, Project Ten Dollar and the Marketing processes.

Valve on the other hand knows how to deal with indie and independent companies and in fact would attract Indie titles that would allow them to expand faster than EA. At the same time the ethics of Valve would mean a better expierience overall. They would also keep the automatic updates which I find useful in order to keep me enjoying the game.

EA's Marketing system would win out to begin with, however when consumers discovered that EA still has problems with ripping off customers, it would collapse.

Valve on the other hand would have a slow start however because they are not throwing tens of millions at it, they would still profit and it would grow from there.

In business a fast expansion normally results in collapse at a later date due to major mistakes and failures that millions of people would expierience (EA). However if the mistakes are only occuring to one or two people and the system can cope with correcting errors as they go then they would win in the end (Valve).

While I agree with just about everything, it isn't really the case here, since Steam has had years upon years of building (and alienating) clientel, they have an major advantage because of dedicated people (as myself) who have hundres of games on steam, and don't feel like cluttering up my progress bar with more programs.

Ea does have an aluring factor in both offering many titles for many diffrents geners, and you don't need Origin running in the background to run those games.

 

[Gestapo Hunter]

If you buy games off origins you only can own it for 1 year before EA deletes it thus forcing you to buy the game again.

 

[fooddood3]

They have, as far as I know, all EA titles has been pulled from the store, the games you already own are still oyur on steam, but Steam isn't allowed to sell any more EA games there.

So I guess they arn't as much as "filling a niece" as "Making one that they then can fill themselves"

But I feel the same, I got around 130 games or so on Steam, and leaving to, what to me seems like an inferier system with not even 1 10th of the games, steam has to offer. Oh well.

Nice

 

[Woodsey]

They have, as far as I know, all EA titles has been pulled from the store, the games you already own are still oyur on steam, but Steam isn't allowed to sell any more EA games there.

So I guess they arn't as much as "filling a niece" as "Making one that they then can fill themselves"

But I feel the same, I got around 130 games or so on Steam, and leaving to, what to me seems like an inferier system with not even 1 10th of the games, steam has to offer. Oh well.

You really need to change that to "niche", and fast xD

OT: Origin seems to have some very questionable TOS stuff (like only guaranteeing you'll be able to re-download a game you've bought for a year) , so I'll leave it for now.

 

[Cenequus]

How about Origins AND Steam?and GOG and D2D and whatever will come next. What's wrong with having all of them? Of course people will buy from who has better deals(Never bought a Steam game on day 1 since it's expensive as fuck)and since it will be very easy to check the deals on each if they want to survive all are forced to lower prices. And don't give me that bullshit that Steam doesn't overprice because I use alot D2D for day 1 games and they don't charge me as Steam.

 

[Zulnam]

Guess I'll have to buy a retail version of Battlefield 3. I'm not personally against EA, but I heard all sort of bad stories about their EULA in the past, so it's best to just stay on the safe side for at least a year.

Also, heard it's available only in certain areas of the world, and if that's true, Eastern Europe is most likely not one of those "exclusive" places.

 

[The Artificially Prolonged]

I'll be sticking with Steam or retail buys, mainly because I really have not bought any EA games in the last few years apart from Crysis in a recent Steam, which I wouldn't have bought if it was not for the cheap price steam was offering for it. Somehow I don't see EA being as generous in sale prices of the own games in Origin as Steam sales. Ultimately though I'll have to check it out if a game on there interest me but I don't imagine straying from Steam though, Steam has always been friendly to my wallet.

 

[Euhan01]

Steam will, for awhile atleast be the best. I prefer Valve to EA but if EA starting offering really good deals i'll use both. Probably have to start using Origins for EA excluse games, but otherwise (assuming Valve are cheaper) just use steam.