Osama Bin Laden Celebrations labelled "Disguisting"

[Duskwaith]

I would respect my enemy. Just because they are terrorists does not mean they are degraded to animals.

The British Army respected the IRA theres even a picture of a British Soldier saluting the coffin of an IRA volunteer as it passed by. Just shows the calibre of the people involved.

Americans just let themselves down once again. Fox news will be having a field day on this crap

So because he was attacked in response to an act of war thats treating him like an animal? If he wasn't respected he would've been brought back to the US and tortured. He was quickly killed and buried at sea in a fashion required by his religion buy US soldiers. A religion he killed thousands of Americans in the name of and he was laid to rest by Americans in the way that religion demands. Yeah... How disrespectful huh?

This thread is about the celebrations about his death so quite frankly i find your point irrelevant. Typical is all i can think

 

[Ewyx]

Why did they kill him and not bring him in? Would be much more interesting to watch that unfold.

 

[theklng]

i'm saying he isn't a person anymore since he's among the dead now. and as with all other dead people, have some respect by not flaunting your hatred, and stop being a hypocrite in the name of american beliefs. get your act together, son.

So?

He was an asshole!

Why should we respect an asshole, even if he's now dead?

because you don't know what death brings. anyone who dances on someone's grave like you do should receive same punishment as he did.

 

[TheRealCJ]

i suppose he thinks celebrating the death of a loved one (like some people in new orleans do) is disgusting. what does he think we are? robots?

osama bin laden was an evil man responisble for the deaths of thousands and a man who had no remorse for the crimes he committed and represented nothing positive. there is nothing disgusting about celebrating the death of an evil man.

Except that people in New Orleans and the such celebrate the LIFE of a loved one who has died.

I don't think anybody is celebrating his Life now are they?

 

[Jedoro]

When evil man becomes dead man and is stopped from killing another good man, I say it's fucking party time.

 

[thehype097]

Why is it that some people feel that America is bad for killing him? I get that some are offended by blatant celebration of death but with killing him i don't get. Should the country be held to the same standards as Batman? Bc I don't know if you realize this but Batman's system is a bit flawed. Beat em' up, lock em up they get out and do it again. We spent enough to get him the first time. That shit gets expensive and tiring. (I realize that was a ridiculous comparison but I can't take this seriously anymore)

 

[Kortney]

Murder is the killing of innocent people. Yes, the American army, at several points in history, have murdered innocent people, and committed fundamentally evil acts.

Several points in history? You mean every day right? Because that's how often an innocent person dies in Afghanistan/Iraq/Pakistan under NATO fire. 90% of the time it isn't deliberate - but if you are calling murder the killing of innocents then you are screwed there.

Justification is not entirely subjective. Murder is a word with a set definition, as are murder, and self defense. The definitions that are collectively given to these words give them a meaning beyond what random psychopaths choose to give them.

You've just defined murder as being the killing of innocents. So, if murder has such a "set" definition - how come NATO armed forces aren't called murderers - yet people on the other side are? Hmmmmmm. Why is it that German Generals were executed for "endangering innocent lives" after World War 2, and labelled as murderers - whilst Russian generals weren't? Interesting. If anything you are saying had merit - they would all be able to be judged as murderers on their own context and accord. But they seldom were. Dictionary definition don't mean anything mate - it's all about who is in control and who is friends with the group in control.

Anyway, my original point remains. Both the idiots who were dancing around in Afghanistan after 9/11 and the idiots who are dancing around the USA right now have one thing in common: They are celebrating the death of enemies of their state. What side we agree with is irrelevant. I was merely pointing out a fact.

I'm a little confused here, are you saying that the people who were in the WTC on 9/11 killed innocent people?

No. You were right - you're terribly confused I'm afraid.

Why is it that some people feel that America is bad for killing him?

I don't think anyone does - it's just jumping around and screaming because a human being has died is tactless and stupid. Period. Yeah - we got him. Good. No need to celebrate it - especially considering this won't stop the conflict. I'll celebrate and jump around once the war is over.

 

[thehype097]

I would respect my enemy. Just because they are terrorists does not mean they are degraded to animals.

The British Army respected the IRA theres even a picture of a British Soldier saluting the coffin of an IRA volunteer as it passed by. Just shows the calibre of the people involved.

Americans just let themselves down once again. Fox news will be having a field day on this crap

So because he was attacked in response to an act of war thats treating him like an animal? If he wasn't respected he would've been brought back to the US and tortured. He was quickly killed and buried at sea in a fashion required by his religion buy US soldiers. A religion he killed thousands of Americans in the name of and he was laid to rest by Americans in the way that religion demands. Yeah... How disrespectful huh?

This thread is about the celebrations about his death so quite frankly i find your point irrelevant. Typical is all i can think

You said he, the enemy, was treated like an animal. you didn't specify that you meant celebrations. Which is also nothing like being treated like animals (Do you know a lot of people who celebrate animal deaths?) So quite frankly i find your point to be nonsensical. Smug is all I can think.

 

[thehype097]

I would respect my enemy. Just because they are terrorists does not mean they are degraded to animals.

The British Army respected the IRA theres even a picture of a British Soldier saluting the coffin of an IRA volunteer as it passed by. Just shows the calibre of the people involved.

Americans just let themselves down once again. Fox news will be having a field day on this crap

So because he was attacked in response to an act of war thats treating him like an animal? If he wasn't respected he would've been brought back to the US and tortured. He was quickly killed and buried at sea in a fashion required by his religion buy US soldiers. A religion he killed thousands of Americans in the name of and he was laid to rest by Americans in the way that religion demands. Yeah... How disrespectful huh?

This thread is about the celebrations about his death so quite frankly i find your point irrelevant. Typical is all i can think

You said he, the enemy, was treated like an animal. you didn't specify that you meant celebrations. Which is also nothing like being treated like animals (Do you know a lot of people who celebrate animal deaths?) So quite frankly i find your point to be nonsensical. Smug is all I can think.

Also you brought up the actions of a soldier as an example of respect, which has nothing to do with the celebrations of civilians. So I say American soldiers were respectful in his burial and I'm irrelevant and typical and you do the same thing and you made a good point?

 

[michiehoward]

In fact no, let the US celebrate. fuck him. let them drown out any cries of martyrdom that his followers will spew out.

Now I think Pakistan is in a VERY tight spot because they're going to get the magnifying glass put on them and why he was able to live a hundred yards away from their principal military base for possibly years. THATS going to be the big question for the next few weeks...

Exactly being that is was only 100 kms north of the capital is slightly off-putting to me.

 

[KindlySpastic]

The death of Osama bin Laden won't accomplish anything other than a symbolic victory in my opinion. As others have said it won't stop the various formations of al-Qaeda.

I'm more concerned about then larger picture here. It seems that US special forces- in collaboration with CIA - has been carrying out several extrajudicial killings, kidnappings and other shady stuff in Pakistan and Iran without the permission of those countries. These kinds of activities might further fuck the potential for any kind of positive relationship between them and the US/the west.

There's also the risk that this whole thing will serve to embolden terrorist organisations and insurgents rather than subdue them. Let's hope not.

 

[Killersamman]

I came down this morning to the news and saw all the celebrations, but found it a bit morbid when I read the headlines... I know he was a bad person but it did make me feel queasy seeing crowds celebrate like animals over the murder of a man...

I understand he was the figurehead of a terrible organisation but more reservedness and maturity should have been employed...

 

[SpireOfFire]

i suppose he thinks celebrating the death of a loved one (like some people in new orleans do) is disgusting. what does he think we are? robots?

osama bin laden was an evil man responisble for the deaths of thousands and a man who had no remorse for the crimes he committed and represented nothing positive. there is nothing disgusting about celebrating the death of an evil man.

Except that people in New Orleans and the such celebrate the LIFE of a loved one who has died.

I don't think anybody is celebrating his Life now are they?

both celebrations are deserved, imo. but this guy who says its disgusting probly doesnt understand the concept of celebrating death.

 

[Bobbity]

I'm sorry, but if you were in any way affected by the 9/11 attacks that killed three thousand people, I'm sure you'd see why the Americans are so happy.

It's a little bit tasteless to be out on the streets celebrating the death of a man, but, under the circumstances, I'd say it's well justified.

 

[RelexCryo]

Murder is the killing of innocent people. Yes, the American army, at several points in history, have murdered innocent people, and committed fundamentally evil acts.

Justification is not entirely subjective. Murder is a word with a set definition, as are murder, and self defense. The definitions that are collectively given to these words give them a meaning beyond what random psychopaths choose to give them.

You've just defined murder as being the killing of innocents. So, if murder has such a "set" definition - how come NATO armed forces aren't called murderers - yet people on the other side are? Hmmmmmm. Why is it that German Generals were executed for "endangering innocent lives" after World War 2, and labelled as murderers - whilst Russian generals weren't? Interesting. If anything you are saying had merit - they would all be able to be judged as murderers on their own context and accord. But they seldom were. Dictionary definition don't mean anything mate - it's all about who is in control and who is friends with the group in control.

NATO armed forces that kill innocent people intentionally are murderers. Those that do it accidentally are technically man slaughterers. NATO is not sacred or holy, it has it's own share of horrible crimes, and the ones within NATO responsible for them should be punished. Crimes commited by NATO are also horrible, and should not be overlooked as they are. But the crimes committed by NATO do not justify crimes against innocent people.

Anyway, my original point remains. Both the idiots who were dancing around in Afghanistan after 9/11 and the idiots who are dancing around the USA right now have one thing in common: They are celebrating the death of enemies of their state. What side we agree with is irrelevant. I was merely pointing out a fact.

Whether or not Osama was an enemy of the United States is irrelevant, sometimes the United States Government has been the evil aggressor, and the Government's enemies have been the noble heroes. Native American rebels immediately come to mind. Osama's status relative to the government has no bearing on my opinion of him. It is the fact that he murdered innocent people which matters.

 

[Lybs]

I think they are taking the celebrations a little to far, killing one man doesn't destroy an organization as wildly spread as al-Qaeda and rest assured that there will be another fanatic that will replace him and properly do a retaliation against the US.

 

[The Stabilo Boss]

I'm a little confused here, are you saying that the people who were in the WTC on 9/11 killed innocent people?

No. You were right - you're terribly confused I'm afraid.

Excellent. In that case, we can all agree that the celebrations in the middle east after 9/11 are not directly comparable to the celebrations in America today. Huzzah.

 

[YunikoYokai5]

What I don't really understand is that American is going nuts (happy nuts) over this...yet very few of them seem to be worried about the repercussions...aka more bombing. Killing 1 man isn't going to stop this, they'll just replace him. Kill the replacement, they'll replace him again. They'll ALWAYS have replacements. Unless you can stop the entire terrorist 'army', this isn't going to end.

There are also a lot of different questions that need answered (like, already said, why was he so close to a military base and escaped detection?)

I say, let them celebrate a small victory (before the shit hits the fan) but I agree the parties were a little too much.

 

[mummy162]

I'm no huge patriot, but I live near New York City and I have close friends who have lost loved ones to 911. Al-Qaeda declared war on America during that attack, and so we have every right to celebrate a major victory in this war.