Osama Bin Laden Celebrations labelled "Disguisting"

[thehype097]

I would respect my enemy. Just because they are terrorists does not mean they are degraded to animals.

The British Army respected the IRA theres even a picture of a British Soldier saluting the coffin of an IRA volunteer as it passed by. Just shows the calibre of the people involved.

Americans just let themselves down once again. Fox news will be having a field day on this crap

So because he was attacked in response to an act of war thats treating him like an animal? If he wasn't respected he would've been brought back to the US and tortured. He was quickly killed and buried at sea in a fashion required by his religion buy US soldiers. A religion he killed thousands of Americans in the name of and he was laid to rest by Americans in the way that religion demands. Yeah... How disrespectful huh?

This thread is about the celebrations about his death so quite frankly i find your point irrelevant. Typical is all i can think

You said he, the enemy, was treated like an animal. you didn't specify that you meant celebrations. Which is also nothing like being treated like animals (Do you know a lot of people who celebrate animal deaths?) So quite frankly i find your point to be nonsensical. Smug is all I can think.

Hunted like an animal is what you seem to be missing other than being draped in an American Flag not to mention the dehumanisation of Osama wherein people are out rejoicing in the streets at the death of someone.Tasteless and arrogant. So your misunderstanding of my post gives you the basis for this argument? Not to mention I used that example to show the respect between two enemies afterall soldiers/civilians where against Osama(as proven by the celebrations which we should be talking about before once again your afermentioned misunderstanding of me post derailed us from) and he against them ever since he declared war on the USA in the late 90's. Fox news viewer is all i can think.

BTW wouldnt animal sacrifice be seen as celebration of animal deaths?

He was draped in the American Flag huh? When did that happen? I find it hard to believe you know that considering no footage has been released coupled with the fact that it is not standard practice to bury a sworn enemy of your country in your flag (which is meant as a sign of honor).
There's no misunderstanding, you've now upped the ante to examples having nothing to do with the celebrations being used. I suppose no civilians were happy about IRA deaths? You know that right? yet another fact-less assumption. You said there was respect because soldiers had it and so did I.
I hate fox news btw but good effort you keep plugging in your smug incorrect assumptions. I thought typical was all you can think... you should probably keep limiting yourself to one thought. If you think celebrating is tasteless and arrogant (though not nearly as arrogant as your posts and how proud you seem to be of your knowledge that fox news is biased and right wing. A fact known by most at the age of 13(congrats)) i can see your stand point and I respect your opinion. However, All I said was that I brought up a sign of respect by soldiers and you jumped on me about it not being about the celebrations despite the fact that you did the exact same thing as an example before. Criticizing someone for something you did yourself, how very Fox News of you. I can't help but wonder what the next all you can think line is going to be.

 

[Ghost]

Well heres a viewpoint from non-american:
9/11: Muslims cheer in the streets the death of ~3000 civilians. Response in america: thats disgusting

Osama dies: Americans cheer in the streets the death of a man who orchestrated the death of ~3000 civilians. Response from muslims: thats disgusting.

One? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_of_the_War_in_Afghanistan_%282001%E2%80%93present%29#Civilian_casualties_.282001-2003.29

According to Marc W. Herold's extensive database, Dossier on Civilian Victims of United States' Aerial Bombing, between 3,100 and 3,600 civilians were directly killed by U.S. Operation Enduring Freedom bombing and Special Forces attacks between October 7, 2001 and June 3, 2003. This estimate counts only "impact deaths" - deaths that occurred in the immediate aftermath of an explosion or shooting - and does not count deaths that occurred later as a result of injuries sustained, or deaths that occurred as an indirect consequence of the U.S. airstrikes and invasion.


True, he was the figurehead, the prize. Was it worth the blood of tens of thousands for this one small achievement of killing him? Obama himself stated this was the biggest triumph in the war, utterly atrocious that he thinks killing Osama justifies all this nonsense. Oh well, whatever he has to do to win support to get elected I guess.

Unrelated Note: I've asked a few people if they really think all the killing can be justified. Most seem to think 'the rag head sandni##ers' lives are worthless to begin with, another person told me 25,000 kids die in Africa everyday, adding a few deaths to that total doesn't matter.

I really am disappointed that humans can feel such a way towards other ones, regardless of religion or country of origin. Racism and Hatred truly are the driving force behind mankind.

 

[Droppa Deuce]

Bin Laden was just one head of the Hydra.

Nothing wrong with celebrating its removal, but we would all be fools to think this actually means anything in the grand scale.

This whole thing is messy. Fighting an enemy which does not fear death is a tiresome thing.

We should just stage a figting tournament. 10 of their best and most musclebound fighters vs 10 of the 'West's" most maxed out brahs.

No weapons. Just street figting. Live pay per view etc. It could really work.

 

[Hamster at Dawn]

If you are celebrating his death then shame on you. However, it seems perfectly acceptable to celebrate the potential consequences of his death. It's the difference between "Yeah! We got that A-rab motha!" and "We're one step closer to stopping Al-Qaeda for good".

 

[thehype097]

because you don't know what death brings. anyone who dances on someone's grave like you do should receive same punishment as he did.

I did not dance on his grave.

All I said that was if the person in question was somehow mean, cruel, evil, etc. in life, being dead shouldn't affect how we view him.

And just because I called him an asshole, I should suffer death as well?

He was buried at sea, no one dance in the ocean or this guy says you should die too.

 

[WouldYouKindly]

Well heres a viewpoint from non-american:
9/11: Muslims cheer in the streets the death of ~3000 civilians. Response in america: thats disgusting

Osama dies: Americans cheer in the streets the death of a man who orchestrated the death of ~3000 civilians. Response from muslims: thats disgusting.

Really now. If americans went to the streets cheering after they hear a bombing campaign had killed 3000 afgans in one night then THAT would be disgusting. This? Not so much. Let them celebrate. Now lets wait for the next figurehead to popup amidst the Al Qaeda.

Not really, most of the muslim community didn't really like the guy either, according to the news(yeah, unreliable I know) muslims aren't celebrating, but they're not sad to see him go, for the most part. He still has some supporters, of course, but these are the minority.

 

[thehype097]

I would respect my enemy. Just because they are terrorists does not mean they are degraded to animals.

The British Army respected the IRA theres even a picture of a British Soldier saluting the coffin of an IRA volunteer as it passed by. Just shows the calibre of the people involved.

Americans just let themselves down once again. Fox news will be having a field day on this crap

So because he was attacked in response to an act of war thats treating him like an animal? If he wasn't respected he would've been brought back to the US and tortured. He was quickly killed and buried at sea in a fashion required by his religion buy US soldiers. A religion he killed thousands of Americans in the name of and he was laid to rest by Americans in the way that religion demands. Yeah... How disrespectful huh?

This thread is about the celebrations about his death so quite frankly i find your point irrelevant. Typical is all i can think

You said he, the enemy, was treated like an animal. you didn't specify that you meant celebrations. Which is also nothing like being treated like animals (Do you know a lot of people who celebrate animal deaths?) So quite frankly i find your point to be nonsensical. Smug is all I can think.

Hunted like an animal is what you seem to be missing other than being draped in an American Flag not to mention the dehumanisation of Osama wherein people are out rejoicing in the streets at the death of someone.Tasteless and arrogant. So your misunderstanding of my post gives you the basis for this argument? Not to mention I used that example to show the respect between two enemies afterall soldiers/civilians where against Osama(as proven by the celebrations which we should be talking about before once again your afermentioned misunderstanding of me post derailed us from) and he against them ever since he declared war on the USA in the late 90's. Fox news viewer is all i can think.

BTW wouldnt animal sacrifice be seen as celebration of animal deaths?

He was draped in the American Flag huh? When did that happen? I find it hard to believe you know that considering no footage has been released coupled with the fact that it is not standard practice to bury a sworn enemy of your country in your flag (which is meant as a sign of honor).
There's no misunderstanding, you've now upped the ante to examples having nothing to do with the celebrations being used. I suppose no civilians were happy about IRA deaths? You know that right? yet another fact-less assumption. You said there was respect because soldiers had it and so did I.
I hate fox news btw but good effort you keep plugging in your smug incorrect assumptions. I thought typical was all you can think... you should probably keep limiting yourself to one thought. If you think celebrating is tasteless and arrogant (though not nearly as arrogant as your posts and how proud you seem to be of your knowledge that fox news is biased and right wing. A fact known by most at the age of 13(congrats)) i can see your stand point and I respect your opinion. However, All I said was that I brought up a sign of respect by soldiers and you jumped on me about it not being about the celebrations despite the fact that you did the exact same thing as an example before. Criticizing someone for something you did yourself, how very Fox News of you. I can't help but wonder what the next all you can think line is going to be.

Animal sacrifice could be considered a celebration of animal death depending on the circumstance. So in response to that apparent point asking that was supposed to make, I'll ask again. Do you know many people who celebrate animal deaths?

 

[zHellas]

He was buried at sea, no one dance in the ocean or this guy says you should die too.

Dammit! I got my swimming trunks out for nothing! D":

EDIT: At least he got some dignified burial.

 

[thehype097]

He was buried at sea, no one dance in the ocean or this guy says you should die too.

Dammit! I got my swimming trunks out for nothing! D":

There's probably a lot of people in the ballroom on cruises out there that are totally screwed right now.

 

[thegreatsage]

"On the contrary. There are only two responses that are generally valid in the case of death: celebration and mourning. Since I see little reason to mourn his death that means I'm left with celebrating the event.

Of course, that doesn't mean I'm going to do anything crazy. In fact, my response was nothing more than a slight smile at the news as I passed a TV blaring it."

I recently mourned the passing of a dormouse.

No offense meant, but as principle I dont think (human) death solicits any form of celebration. The American public might be vindicated in 9/11(in this case, the Iraq war is a different issue) but inasmuch as there is relief, NOT euphoria.

Civilization is founded and united by fundamental humane ideals, which every now and then come under stress in 'moral dilemmas' like this one. What I'm trying to say is best expressed in cliche: we're all human beings,Osama is one too despite being a mass murderer/Being thinking civilians with decorum we(actually I'm not American) ought to know there's a fine line between rejoicing the death of a man and getting redemption.

 

[Doctor What]

He wanted to die a martyr. That's exactly what we gave him.

Sadly, I think that this is what Obama will be remembered for; not his message of tolerance, change, and whatnot.

 

[Duskwaith]

I would respect my enemy. Just because they are terrorists does not mean they are degraded to animals.

The British Army respected the IRA theres even a picture of a British Soldier saluting the coffin of an IRA volunteer as it passed by. Just shows the calibre of the people involved.

Americans just let themselves down once again. Fox news will be having a field day on this crap

So because he was attacked in response to an act of war thats treating him like an animal? If he wasn't respected he would've been brought back to the US and tortured. He was quickly killed and buried at sea in a fashion required by his religion buy US soldiers. A religion he killed thousands of Americans in the name of and he was laid to rest by Americans in the way that religion demands. Yeah... How disrespectful huh?

This thread is about the celebrations about his death so quite frankly i find your point irrelevant. Typical is all i can think

You said he, the enemy, was treated like an animal. you didn't specify that you meant celebrations. Which is also nothing like being treated like animals (Do you know a lot of people who celebrate animal deaths?) So quite frankly i find your point to be nonsensical. Smug is all I can think.

Hunted like an animal is what you seem to be missing other than being draped in an American Flag not to mention the dehumanisation of Osama wherein people are out rejoicing in the streets at the death of someone.Tasteless and arrogant. So your misunderstanding of my post gives you the basis for this argument? Not to mention I used that example to show the respect between two enemies afterall soldiers/civilians where against Osama(as proven by the celebrations which we should be talking about before once again your afermentioned misunderstanding of me post derailed us from) and he against them ever since he declared war on the USA in the late 90's. Fox news viewer is all i can think.

BTW wouldnt animal sacrifice be seen as celebration of animal deaths?

He was draped in the American Flag huh? When did that happen? I find it hard to believe you know that considering no footage has been released coupled with the fact that it is not standard practice to bury a sworn enemy of your country in your flag (which is meant as a sign of honor).
There's no misunderstanding, you've now upped the ante to examples having nothing to do with the celebrations being used. I suppose no civilians were happy about IRA deaths? You know that right? yet another fact-less assumption. You said there was respect because soldiers had it and so did I.
I hate fox news btw but good effort you keep plugging in your smug incorrect assumptions. I thought typical was all you can think... you should probably keep limiting yourself to one thought. If you think celebrating is tasteless and arrogant (though not nearly as arrogant as your posts and how proud you seem to be of your knowledge that fox news is biased and right wing. A fact known by most at the age of 13(congrats)) i can see your stand point and I respect your opinion. However, All I said was that I brought up a sign of respect by soldiers and you jumped on me about it not being about the celebrations despite the fact that you did the exact same thing as an example before. Criticizing someone for something you did yourself, how very Fox News of you. I can't help but wonder what the next all you can think line is going to be.

It would be fantastic to this arguement if you could read. I said you were draped in an american flag the way your getting on not Osama. You seem to be seeing what you want yourself to see or delude yourself im not sure either i am no surprised at all.

On te topic of respect between soldiers i used that as an example between two warring factions. You obviously cant either read between the lines or understand the most simple of parallels. I love the way your calling me arrogant when you are showing the most biast, narrow train of thought that has seen you use the last part of your paragraph attack me on about fox news and once again you are even quoting YOURSELF wrong. Just go back and re-read your posts you keep chopping and changing what you saying.

How very Fox news of you. Plus im more criticising your biast approach to this that is not helped by very vague and misleading. Extremly hypocritical if your calling me out for being smug when you yourself are kind of just floundering about as i have to explain nearly everything i meant in my post.

So please if your going to quote me and then try and make fun of it in a sardonic way make sure you quote me right. Thank you.

 

[zHellas]

He was buried at sea, no one dance in the ocean or this guy says you should die too.

Dammit! I got my swimming trunks out for nothing! D":

There's probably a lot of people in the ballroom on cruises out there that are totally screwed right now.

...What?

I don't really understand your post. Mind explaining that?

(I really don't really know what you've just said.)

 

[Black Watch]

His death is a morale booster. After what he did, we deserve to celebrate that sick bastard's death.

Oh and for those that label him as "human", go screw yourselves.

 

[TheRealCJ]

i suppose he thinks celebrating the death of a loved one (like some people in new orleans do) is disgusting. what does he think we are? robots?

osama bin laden was an evil man responisble for the deaths of thousands and a man who had no remorse for the crimes he committed and represented nothing positive. there is nothing disgusting about celebrating the death of an evil man.

Except that people in New Orleans and the such celebrate the LIFE of a loved one who has died.

I don't think anybody is celebrating his Life now are they?

both celebrations are deserved, imo. but this guy who says its disgusting probly doesnt understand the concept of celebrating death.

No, I really don't think you're right.

The fact is, there's "celebrating death" by having a party, and then there's what I've seen on the news.


That's hardly what I'd call a dignified way to "celebrate death". It's not even a dignified way of celebrating yet another casualty in an ongoing war, no matter how high-profile.

 

[Jack Cheal]

agreed, Bin Laden was an evil, evil man, but even so, we shouldn't be celebrating the death of a human, or else we're just as low as him.

 

[Jezzascmezza]

I thought the whole celebrations were a little wrong as well, especially since this doesn't automatically mean the war on terror is over.
I think people have a right to be personally glad with the death of Osama Bin Laden is okay, but parading in the streets and publicly celebrating seems primitive as hell.
I hate Osama Bin Laden as much as the next guy, but I still think these celebrations are just a bit incorrect.

 

[Joa_Belgium]

Even though it may be a bit pompous to celebrate the death of Bin Laden, you can't deny them their joy. We're talking about a terrorist, a wanted criminal who has destroyed thousands of lives and who would have added tens of thousands to his list if he had the option.

Surely you can't be mad about the fact that they finally got the bastard? I for one can say that, as soon as I heard the news this morning, I was actually happy. Happy that one less mass murderer is roaming the face of the earth. It's called justice, look it up.

Onward to the next one.

 

[Harkonnen64]

Jesus, wtf is with the people on this forum? Am I one of the only people who's glad this guy is dead?

 

[TheRealCJ]

Now, personally, I'm inclined to agree. It's not that they're celebrating, Bin Laden was obviously a very hated person all over the world. But it's the fact that they're celebrating the death of a man, no matter how evil.

So you wouldn't have celebrated the death of Hitler if you were alive back then? How sure are you of that?

(No, I'm not comparing Osama to Hitler. However, they're both bad people that had/will have people rejoicing over their death and if you're saying "no matter how evil", I don't see a problem with the question)

Personally I wouldn't hold it against Americans or anyone else to rejoice over his death. God knows I was happy for a few seconds when I saw the initial 9/11 news and the only reason that feeling went away soon after was the death of innocent people. Since we're having none of that in this situation, I'd say celebrate away.

I'm affected by Bin Laden. I've got mates in Afghanistan as a direct result of 9/11. None killed, thank god, but they're still over there risking their lives.

And yes, I did permit myself a small smirk of satisfaction upon hearing of his death. But I certainly didn't run into the city with a bottle in one hand and a flag in the other, hollering like I just won the lottery.

And that's what this is about. It's not that they're celebrating, it's that they're doing it in the most obnoxious way possible. The only way they could've made it worse is if they went and firebombed the nearest Mosque.

And yes, I know that those in the Middle East and Asia haven't been exactly subtle in their victory celebrations, but I keep getting told that the US is the more Mature, dignified, and modern-minded country. This doesn't exactly prove that point.

So to sum up my point(again), I have no problem with people being happy, or even celebrating in a dignified manner, but you are still being watched by a world that isn't on the best terms with you to begin with. Don't act like the drunk chick at a party every chance you get.