Osama Bin Laden Celebrations labelled "Disguisting"

[Silentwindofdoom]

The vast majority of civilian deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan were caused by suicide bombers, car bombers and other violence perpetrated by terrorist organizations and not coalition munitions. (I feel I should remind you that the United States was not the only country with attack aircraft in the sky) It should also be noted that Afghanistan is much more stable than Iraq and there is significantly less violence there than in Iraq. As for Iraq it should be noted that this would have occurred any way when Saddam inevitably fell from power. The region isn't stable and it isn't all our fault. Granted the reasons for the Iraq invasion were dubious but once again if you wish to create that thread you are welcome to do so.

Be that as it may, the vast majority of these deaths would not have occurred had there been no invasions at all, which is ultimately my point. In the context of the original argument you were having this means that it is not unreasonable for people to want to do harm to the united states, responsible as its government is for these deaths.

 

[Kizi]

It's symbolic justice, I think. I understand why the Americans are celebrating, but I personally wouldn't yell hooray when somebody is killed, no matter who it is. What bothers me the most is that people are saying the world is a safer place now. I'm not sure about this, because killing bin Laden surely pissed his followers off.

 

[Hop-along Nussbaum]

I'm certainly glad that we have so many fine "morally correct" people here to tell us that celebrating OBL's death is wrong. Maybe they can all gather together and go to the UN and solve all the world's problems with their infinite knowledge of right and wrong.

/puke

 

[SamuraiShinrai]

Wait so I shouldn't be celebrating the death of a man who if given the means would kill every westerner and non muslim if he had the chance? This Kuranda Seyit imo should be investigated for sympathies towards radical islam.

In the meanwhile

Let's party

so you'll party when you kill someone, but you hate it when people from some random church picket at a funeral of an american soldier? hypocrite.

you don't act like a dick just because you've killed your mortal enemy. you understand that what you have done is perhaps the most atrocious thing any human being could do to another: to kill it. have some goddamn respect for the dead.

The big difference is that we arent going to his funeral and doing so in front of his family, I'm glad he's dead if people want to go overboard get it over with but dont draw it out for days on end have the celebration and move on. The war on terror will never be over no matter how many of those guys we put down but you cant just throw up yours hands and give up when someone kills a bunch of people because he didnt like their way of life. I dont agree with a great many people or how they live but hell they have the right to do so. You can bet that if they had managed to kill our president they would be doing the exact same thing right now, come to think of it they tend to do it all the time anyways. Most people are aware that this isnt an end to terrorism so I say let them throw their party and move on.

 

[iNsAnEHAV0C]

Havn't read through this, but let me ask this douche if he would have (did?) celebrated when Hitler died? this is a similar idea, though this time we (americans) actually got him not the soviets. lol

 

[Buizel91]

Wait so I shouldn't be celebrating the death of a man who if given the means would kill every westerner and non muslim if he had the chance? This Kuranda Seyit imo should be investigated for sympathies towards radical islam.

In the meanwhile

Let's party

so you'll party when you kill someone, but you hate it when people from some random church picket at a funeral of an american soldier? hypocrite.

you don't act like a dick just because you've killed your mortal enemy. you understand that what you have done is perhaps the most atrocious thing any human being could do to another: to kill it. have some goddamn respect for the dead.

The big difference is that we arent going to his funeral and doing so in front of his family, I'm glad he's dead if people want to go overboard get it over with but dont draw it out for days on end have the celebration and move on. The war on terror will never be over no matter how many of those guys we put down but you cant just throw up yours hands and give up when someone kills a bunch of people because he didnt like their way of life. I dont agree with a great many people or how they live but hell they have the right to do so. You can bet that if they had managed to kill our president they would be doing the exact same thing right now, come to think of it they tend to do it all the time anyways. Most people are aware that this isnt an end to terrorism so I say let them throw their party and move on.

According to Fox News (i know, not the best source of information in the world) his sons, brother and wife died while trying to protect him. There is some debate whether he used his wife as a shield, or she simply ran out in front of the bullets.

So there isn't much of his family left, my guess is his mum and dad are still alive, but that's about it.

 

[Calbeck]

"the Forum on Australia's Islamic Relations (FAIR) has labelled US celebrations over the death Osama Bin Laden 'disgusting' "

No surprise.

What was their view of Palestinian children dancing in the streets on 9/11, and of the folks at Hamas who gave them candy to encourage it? Oh, that's right, they didn't have any view on the subject, as I recall...except that we should be understanding of the feelings of those who were celebrating.

 

[pwnsore]

Glad I am not the only one who feels some reservation about this. Logically I am glad, but intuitively I have a hard time celebrating someone's death. I guess I'm just more concerned about potential retaliatory attacks...

 

[xchurchx]

Been quoted about 8 times. None of which about the terrible pun.

the pun being your PP is Jesus and that millions of christians rejoice in his death? is that it?

 

[katsumoto03]

Treating the death of Osama Bin Laden this way is akin (in my humble opinion) to treating the footage of the 9/11 attacks like an epic fireworks show.

Oh wait, these are the guys who hung Saddam...

Swing..... And a Miss. The Supreme Iraqi Criminal Tribunal (formerly Iraqi Special Tribunal) was responsible for the decision to hang Saddam.

Swinging and missing? I merely stated something that was incorrect. This isn't baseball.

 

[Victor Cross]

My thoughts (For anyone who gives a damn), I'm happy that he's dead. He's responsible for the deaths of thousands and the worst terrorist attack in the history of the United States (I'm from New York, so it hits home a little harder). Thankfully, I did not lose any relatives in 9/11, and I feel pain for those who did. On the other hand, partying in the streets because somebody got shot (even if it's a bad person, like Osama), is a bit...sick, in my opinion. It's like when Saddam was hanged (people were allowed to taunt him as he choked), he wasn't exactly "Prince Charming" either, but that's still a bit wrong. Still, I glad the search for him is over. It's about time he was brought to justice.

 

[PixelKing]

Been quoted about 8 times. None of which about the terrible pun.

the pun being your PP is Jesus and that millions of christians rejoice in his death? is that it?

I do hope that was sarcasm.
Please.

 

[Daffy F]

I think it might be a genuine turning point in the war on terror, and while reprivals are in the wings, I think things might get better. Which is a cause for celebration.

 

[Duskwaith]

I would respect my enemy. Just because they are terrorists does not mean they are degraded to animals.

The British Army respected the IRA theres even a picture of a British Soldier saluting the coffin of an IRA volunteer as it passed by. Just shows the calibre of the people involved.

Americans just let themselves down once again. Fox news will be having a field day on this crap

So because he was attacked in response to an act of war thats treating him like an animal? If he wasn't respected he would've been brought back to the US and tortured. He was quickly killed and buried at sea in a fashion required by his religion buy US soldiers. A religion he killed thousands of Americans in the name of and he was laid to rest by Americans in the way that religion demands. Yeah... How disrespectful huh?

This thread is about the celebrations about his death so quite frankly i find your point irrelevant. Typical is all i can think

You said he, the enemy, was treated like an animal. you didn't specify that you meant celebrations. Which is also nothing like being treated like animals (Do you know a lot of people who celebrate animal deaths?) So quite frankly i find your point to be nonsensical. Smug is all I can think.

Hunted like an animal is what you seem to be missing other than being draped in an American Flag not to mention the dehumanisation of Osama wherein people are out rejoicing in the streets at the death of someone.Tasteless and arrogant. So your misunderstanding of my post gives you the basis for this argument? Not to mention I used that example to show the respect between two enemies afterall soldiers/civilians where against Osama(as proven by the celebrations which we should be talking about before once again your afermentioned misunderstanding of me post derailed us from) and he against them ever since he declared war on the USA in the late 90's. Fox news viewer is all i can think.

BTW wouldnt animal sacrifice be seen as celebration of animal deaths?

He was draped in the American Flag huh? When did that happen? I find it hard to believe you know that considering no footage has been released coupled with the fact that it is not standard practice to bury a sworn enemy of your country in your flag (which is meant as a sign of honor).
There's no misunderstanding, you've now upped the ante to examples having nothing to do with the celebrations being used. I suppose no civilians were happy about IRA deaths? You know that right? yet another fact-less assumption. You said there was respect because soldiers had it and so did I.
I hate fox news btw but good effort you keep plugging in your smug incorrect assumptions. I thought typical was all you can think... you should probably keep limiting yourself to one thought. If you think celebrating is tasteless and arrogant (though not nearly as arrogant as your posts and how proud you seem to be of your knowledge that fox news is biased and right wing. A fact known by most at the age of 13(congrats)) i can see your stand point and I respect your opinion. However, All I said was that I brought up a sign of respect by soldiers and you jumped on me about it not being about the celebrations despite the fact that you did the exact same thing as an example before. Criticizing someone for something you did yourself, how very Fox News of you. I can't help but wonder what the next all you can think line is going to be.

It would be fantastic to this arguement if you could read. I said you were draped in an american flag the way your getting on not Osama. You seem to be seeing what you want yourself to see or delude yourself im not sure either i am no surprised at all.

On te topic of respect between soldiers i used that as an example between two warring factions. You obviously cant either read between the lines or understand the most simple of parallels. I love the way your calling me arrogant when you are showing the most biast, narrow train of thought that has seen you use the last part of your paragraph attack me on about fox news and once again you are even quoting YOURSELF wrong. Just go back and re-read your posts you keep chopping and changing what you saying.

How very Fox news of you. Plus im more criticising your biast approach to this that is not helped by very vague and misleading. Extremly hypocritical if your calling me out for being smug when you yourself are kind of just floundering about as i have to explain nearly everything i meant in my post.

So please if your going to quote me and then try and make fun of it in a sardonic way make sure you quote me right. Thank you.

First, it's Biased not biast one is a word one isn't. it's easier to read when the writer can spell and use complete sentences. if you wanted to say that I was draped in the flag then it should've read exactly what you had to say to clarify it. you said "Hunted like an animal is what you seem to be missing other than being draped in an American Flag." That sentence implies that I missed the fact that he was hunted like an animal and draped in the flag. In order to display your point more effectively be sure to define the subject of the sentence more clearly.

By using the soldier example in a post you were illustrating the respect for warring factions, easy to understand. I replied that US soldiers showed him respect. If you wanted to illustrate that respect in comparison to civilian celebrations showing a lack thereof the groups would have to be more similar. Comparing a soldier to a civilian doesn't work when soldiers had the same reaction of soldier in your example. In order to illustrate your point your example had to be comparable to the civilian in the situation. i.e. civilian reaction toward the IRA.

I don't see exactly what I chopped or changed (sounds a lot like flip-flopping, what fox news accused john kerry of) I said soldiers were respectful then I said you never brought up civilians in your original post then I accused you of making assumptions about the situation and about me. None of that is a contradiction to anything i said. The only thing that could be considered a change was that flag misunderstanding which, as we discussed, could've been cleared up if you knew how to articulate your thoughts into concise meaningful statements.

As for calling you arrogant. "All I can think is, typical" Is an arrogant and rude statement. If you don't want to be called arrogant don't act arrogant.

Lastly I realize this post was a bit condescending and arrogant. You know what? I'm okay with that.

So it basically it stems back to you not being able to understand what i was saying. Good work.

I dont honestly care what you think about my post as your, quite ironicly, acting like one of those crowds which we should be discussing but instead have got sidetracked with your inability to draw comparisons/the overriding urge to start an argument because you cant understand it. Go out and wave the flag/shoot into the air and eat humble pie for all I care.

All I can think is, Typical. Call me arrogant, your still typical

 

[theklng]

Wait so I shouldn't be celebrating the death of a man who if given the means would kill every westerner and non muslim if he had the chance? This Kuranda Seyit imo should be investigated for sympathies towards radical islam.

In the meanwhile

Let's party

so you'll party when you kill someone, but you hate it when people from some random church picket at a funeral of an american soldier? hypocrite.

you don't act like a dick just because you've killed your mortal enemy. you understand that what you have done is perhaps the most atrocious thing any human being could do to another: to kill it. have some goddamn respect for the dead.

The big difference is that we arent going to his funeral and doing so in front of his family, I'm glad he's dead if people want to go overboard get it over with but dont draw it out for days on end have the celebration and move on. The war on terror will never be over no matter how many of those guys we put down but you cant just throw up yours hands and give up when someone kills a bunch of people because he didnt like their way of life. I dont agree with a great many people or how they live but hell they have the right to do so. You can bet that if they had managed to kill our president they would be doing the exact same thing right now, come to think of it they tend to do it all the time anyways. Most people are aware that this isnt an end to terrorism so I say let them throw their party and move on.

so you mean just because you celebrate for one day NOT infront of his family/whatever, it is suddenly ok to dance on someone's grave? i call bullshit. it doesn't matter what a person did, you do not dance on someone's grave - ever.

 

[thelonewolf266]

I doubt anyone labelled it disguisting they would however been right to label it disgusting as when you think about it they're celebrating the murder of a man.

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

Maybe I'm just incredibly cynical or jaded but I'm not surprised that people are celebrating that man's death, and I'm equally not surprised that someone objects to it.

I don't care about his death, I don't hate him. Why? I'm not gonna waste my time hating someone that's a complete bastard, it's pointless, and I have better things to do.

Speaking as an American, I have every reason in the world to be glad that he's dead, but I can't seem to care. I will say this though, I'm not sad he's not alive anymore, but I'm not sorry he's dead.

 

[xchurchx]

lolz
soz man but tht was the thing tht came to mine
might have missed the pun because im from europe and not the states
care to explain it or are you gunna make me play the guessing game :S