Osama Bin Laden Celebrations labelled "Disguisting"

[Merkavar]

dont celebrate osama being killed. celebrate all the potential people who will live cause he isnt masterminding attacks.

 

[Jonabob87]

It does feel wrong that we are celebrating a death of a person but then again it was also the death of someone that had attacked our nation without a care in the world about who died. There is a very large difference between targeting a military base and accidentally killing a few civilians that happened to be visiting family members or that lived nearby than an attack that blatantly was set for civilian life.

Sure you can crunch numbers all you want and sure you can say that America is horrible for celebrating someone's death but a large amount of people criticizing here aren't even American to begin with so it is easy to say you are better than people cheering in the streets. But it can also be said that if the same thing were to happen to your nation, would you be saying the same exact thing? Or would you apologize for your brash actions towards the person who killed your fellow countryman and offer him a reward?

Al-Qaeda attacked lots of places all over the world, just so you know. Off the tip of my tongue they attacked Glasgow, London, Madrid, Israel and Pakistan. There's more but that's all I can think of right now.

Is anyone else partying because of this? No.

(To be fair the Glasgow bombing was a huge failure, and one of the attackers essentially just set himself on fire)

 

[TheRealCJ]

People cheered in the streets after Hitler killed himself and WWII ended

World War II didn't end when Hitler killed himself.

Celebrating a complete victory/Full end to the "War on Terror" WOULD warrant a massive celebration.

But 10 years on since it started, the Death of Bin Laden is only a small part of an ongoing war.

 

[theklng]

Wait so I shouldn't be celebrating the death of a man who if given the means would kill every westerner and non muslim if he had the chance? This Kuranda Seyit imo should be investigated for sympathies towards radical islam.

In the meanwhile

Let's party

so you'll party when you kill someone, but you hate it when people from some random church picket at a funeral of an american soldier? hypocrite.

you don't act like a dick just because you've killed your mortal enemy. you understand that what you have done is perhaps the most atrocious thing any human being could do to another: to kill it. have some goddamn respect for the dead.

 

[spectrenihlus]

I can understand how Americans are happy about this, as he was a pretty bad dude, but they also need to understand that killing him wasn't the best move. Keeping him isolated and not telling anyone, or killing him and not talling anyone would have been way smarter. What happened was basically a big FU at the followers of Bin Laden, and it's pretty stupid to go and taunt a group of people who have eluded you for years, and are armed to the teeth.

Also, quick heads up; Osama's followers are not like Mordor. When you kill the leader, they are not going to disapear, and the world is not going to go through an age of peace. The point is, Osama isn't the only guy who could lead those terrorists. There is going to be someone who rises up amongst them to avenge his death, and that could easily be a man who isn't half as smart as Bin Laden (yes, I'm saying Bin Laden was really smart), or more easily provoked, or foolish enough to resort to nuclear weapons. Making Bin Laden simply disapear from the face of the earth would have been way, way smarter.

Of course he isn;t the only guy but getting him is one hell of a boost for the moral of our troops and one hell of a demoralizer for the enemy.

 

[Denariax]

"Let's prove we're better than this mass murderer, by murdering him then having a party to celebrate murdering him."

- America

Since you're not American, shut the hell up.

(I realize I'm most likely gonna get banned for this, but it needed to be said.)

Xenophobia FTW. I'm not an American, so I am not allowed to speak about this.

How am I xenophobic exactly? Look at the definition of large words before you use them to try to sound like an intellectual.

I said that because you aren't American, therefore you have absolutely no right to convey the opinions of America.

Nah man. I'm American (sadly) and I give 'em full rights to do so. 'Free' country after all.

 

[Jonabob87]

"Let's prove we're better than this mass murderer, by murdering him then having a party to celebrate murdering him."

- America

Since you're not American, shut the hell up.

(I realize I'm most likely gonna get banned for this, but it needed to be said.)

Xenophobia FTW. I'm not an American, so I am not allowed to speak about this.

How am I xenophobic exactly? Look at the definition of large words before you use them to try to sound like an intellectual.

I said that because you aren't American, therefore you have absolutely no right to convey the opinions of America.

xen·o·pho·bi·a
   [zen-uh-foh-bee-uh, zee-nuh-]
?noun
an unreasonable fear or hatred of foreigners or strangers or of that which is foreign or strange.

I didn't convey the opinions of America, I created a strawman based around the people who are celebrating a death and mocked it.

 

[gibboss28]

Celebrating his death? really? I'd say I'm surprised but I'm really not.

 

[RelexCryo]

I know we really don't need another one of these, but I think it's quite relevant:

"THE director of the Forum on Australia's Islamic Relations (FAIR) has labelled US celebrations over the death Osama Bin Laden "disgusting" and called on people to be more reserved.

Kuranda Seyit said the images of Americans rejoicing in the streets of Washington and New York after US President Barack Obama announced bin Laden had been killed in Pakistan were not appropriate.

"I'm just totally disgusted about it," he said.

"(The celebrations) are just like the so-called reports by American television of Muslims celebrating after September 11, this is just as bad.

Um.....no, it's not. The people who died in September 11 were innocent.

"We need to show a little bit more respect towards humanity, even if they're the bad guys."

I refuse to show respect to Htiler, Mussolini, or any other mass murdering monsters.

Mr Seyit said the al-Qaeda leader had galvanised the Muslim community in the past.

"The way he is viewed now, I would say 50 in terms of pro and 50 in terms of against.

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"A lot of people see him as a negative representative of the Muslim community.

"But then, other people see him as someone who is at least having a go at some of those colonial powers interfering in Muslim affairs."

Whether or not he is Muslim is irrelevant to me. He is a murderer. Murderers come from all walks of life. Hitler was Catholic, Mao Zedong was Atheist, The politicians of America who mass murdered Native Americans were Protestant. Osamas religous belief does not matter. Everyone knows the average muslim is a good person.

However, Mr Seyit did point to the advent of social networking as a great way of breaking down radicalism and promoting democracy, as shown in the recent revolution in Tunisia.

"Connecting other people who have similar grievances through that medium has meant that people can talk about that and it helps people to be less radical," he said.

Nevertheless, Mr Seyit said he was sceptical of the news bin Laden was dead and was waiting for photographs of the body to be released."

( http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/us-celebrations-labelled-disgusting/story-e6frfku0-1226048586138 )

Now, personally, I'm inclined to agree. It's not that they're celebrating, Bin Laden was obviously a very hated person all over the world. But it's the fact that they're celebrating the death of a man, no matter how evil.

I think Mr. Seyit is absolutely right in that US citizens are doing exactly what they critisize Islamic communities in the Middle East and Asia of doing.

See my comment above.

I think a bit of celebration is absolutely warranted, but I also think that a bit of reservedness is also in order. At the end of the day, this is still the death of a person.

What do you think?

Edit: Ooops, Sorry, I put it in the wrong forum, if any mods wanna move it to the right one

He was a murderer. Good riddance.

 

[thehype097]

"Let's prove we're better than this mass murderer, by murdering him then having a party to celebrate murdering him."

- America

So what should they have done? Play defense and hope that Bin Laden was satisfied with killing 3,000 people? America should've said "Okay okay you got us, truce?' That would've ended well for them.

Killed him...then said "Okay we finally found him after ten years. Now to deal with the two wars we started because of him."

The party is the part that is wrong.

If that's how you feel fine, but your first quote had absolutely nothing to do with the partying. Funny thing is over the entire county i bet the majority reaction was "good they got him finally" and that was it. people are happy that a man that killed over 3,000 people over an ideal is dead and that's indecent? Should they mourn the loss of the guy?

 

[Denariax]

Am I seriously the only American who punched someone out for celebrating this? God damn people, and I'm asked why I'd rather see it descend into anarchy so I can get the hell out.

Why would you punch someone out for celebrating the death of someone that given the chance would have annihilated you and your family? FIne you don't have to celebrate but don't stop people from celebrating.

Because a death is still a death, and celebrating a death makes me no better than the man who celebrated someone elses.

So yes. They have free will to celebrate what they want, just as I have free will to beat them senseless.

 

[Laser Priest]

It's not celebrating the death of a person, it's celebrating the defeat of an enemy, and this is how humanity reacts to such things. People rejoiced when Hitler died. Italians celebrated Mussolini's death. It's not bunnies and sunshine but that's how people are.

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[spectrenihlus]

Wait so I shouldn't be celebrating the death of a man who if given the means would kill every westerner and non muslim if he had the chance? This Kuranda Seyit imo should be investigated for sympathies towards radical islam.

In the meanwhile

Let's party

so you'll party when you kill someone, but you hate it when people from some random church picket at a funeral of an american soldier? hypocrite.

you don't act like a dick just because you've killed your mortal enemy. you understand that what you have done is perhaps the most atrocious thing any human being could do to another: to kill it. have some goddamn respect for the dead.

Wait...

I'm sorry are you saying I should have respect for a man who convinces his followers to crash planes into symbols of my country? Also let's not forget that the september 11th attacks were not the only attacks perpetuated by him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_1997_Luxor_massacre
IF given the chance I would have pulled the trigger myself if capture wasn't available end I would only want him to be captured only for him to stand trial and recieve the death penalty he justly deserves.

 

[koga88]

Am I seriously the only American who punched someone out for celebrating this? God damn people, and I'm asked why I'd rather see it descend into anarchy so I can get the hell out.

Not going to say you were in the wrong for doing this. But what if the next person you saw legitamately lost a family member in the terrorist attack, or lost a family member or a friend during the war in Afghanistan. Would you punch them out too? How would you know if Joe Bob there isn't trying to cheer for the memory of his dead brother by celebrating the death of a public enemy? Does striking out in violence really make you any better than that anarchy you seem to be so pleased with?

Of course I'm not saying that they everyone celebrating has a right to do so but this is an emotionally charged event and to lash out with violence isn't the best way to respond to it. Though in the end the Taliban will probably do much the same.

 

[thehype097]

I bet you guys were super pissed when the munchkins sang, "ding dong the witch is dead", in the Wizard of Oz too. Those munchkins were dicks eh?

 

[ImmortalDrifter]

xen·o·pho·bi·a
   [zen-uh-foh-bee-uh, zee-nuh-]
?noun
an unreasonable fear or hatred of foreigners or strangers or of that which is foreign or strange.

I didn't convey the opinions of America, I created a strawman based around the people who are celebrating a death and mocked it.

Actually you did, by using the term of "America" instead of say "people celebrating" you were defining the entire country under a banner based on the action of a small group of people.

And I neither fear nor hate you, I respect whatever country or culture you come from. But you can't throw around stereotypes and generalizations and expect someone who isn't part of said stereotype (but loves his country none the less) to just let you say that.

 

[Irriduccibilli]

Celebrating a mans death is disgusting no matter who he was or what he have done. Celebrating a mans death seems really immature to me, and you should be ashamed of yourself. Take a look in the mirror and try and tell yourself that you are better than the muslims celebrating the 9/11 attack, which was also disgusting

 

[kingpocky]

OK, I understand if you think that celebrating the death of a person isn't a good thing, no matter who that person was, but celebrating the death of Bin Laden is hardly the same thing as celebrating 9/11. One event killed a few thousand innocents, while the other killed one person responsible for the murder of a few thousand innocents. Whether it's OK to celebrate it or not, there's still a big difference between the two occasions.

 

[RelexCryo]

Afghanistan in 2001 was run by the Taliban. The USA was considered an enemy of the Taliban government.

Not that hard to follow.

He was the leader of Al-Qaeda which worked together with the Taliban government, it's not so hard to follow.

Jesus...

are no better than the people who were dancing in the streets of Afghanistan after 9/11. Both are celebrating the deaths of enemies of their government.

Afghanis dancing in the streets of Kabul after 9/11 were governed by the Taliban. The Taliban considered the USA and it's people to be enemies.

Therefore Afghanis celebrating 9/11 = people celebrating the deaths of enemies of their government.

Stop trying to pointlessly nitpick.

Celebrating the death of a mass murderer does not equal celebrating the mass murder of innocent people.

 

[Denariax]

Am I seriously the only American who punched someone out for celebrating this? God damn people, and I'm asked why I'd rather see it descend into anarchy so I can get the hell out.

Not going to say you were in the wrong for doing this. But what if the next person you saw legitamately lost a family member in the terrorist attack, or lost a family member or a friend during the war in Afghanistan. Would you punch them out too? How would you know if Joe Bob there isn't trying to cheer for the memory of his dead brother by celebrating the death of a public enemy? Does striking out in violence really make you any better than that anarchy you seem to be so pleased with?

Of course I'm not saying that they everyone celebrating has a right to do so but this is an emotionally charged event and to lash out with violence isn't the best way to respond to it. Though in the end the Taliban will probably do much the same.

Because I'm eventually going to get sick of it? If they bring that as an excuse I'll gladly do it. That's just hiding behind someone else's faults, and nothing but an excuse to get another beer.