Osama Bin Laden Celebrations labelled "Disguisting"
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I can understand how Americans are happy about this, as he was a pretty bad dude, but they also need to understand that killing him wasn't the best move. Keeping him isolated and not telling anyone, or killing him and not talling anyone would have been way smarter. What happened was basically a big FU at the followers of Bin Laden, and it's pretty stupid to go and taunt a group of people who have eluded you for years, and are armed to the teeth.
It's impossible to have "good guys and bad guys" in a war you're not involved in. I never approved of the action taken in retaliation of 9/11, but when the people want revenge, they're gonna get it. But remember that Bush is around...ehhh...85% responsible for all of this.SICK0_ZER0 said:
http://www.hist.umn.edu/~ruggles/Approval.htm and after the thirst for vengeance dies down, so does opinion of those who caused all of this.
It's pretty easy to be on the outside looking in and say it's disgusting to celebrate someone paying for their actions with their life. If such an attitude was a dominate one in the world many more people like Bin Laden would be terrorizing the world. When you you lose a family member, a loved one, even an acquaintance to an act you never thought possible. When your way of life is changed to the point where you need to worry about wether or not it's safe to travel or go to work. Then your opinion might carry a bit more weight. People might be celebrating because they feel a loved one is avenged. Maybe they feel safer (though they really aren't) Let them celebrate. Bin Laden wasn't tortured, he wasn't hung in time's square. He committed an act of war on the American's soil and fell as a military leader would have. His body was disposed of in accordance with the laws of his religion. People who were effected by it in any way have a right to react however they like, wether it's stupid to us or not. The man killed people who had nothing to do with anything in his country. They had no control of US policy regarding his country or his religion, they went to work that day and were punished for things beyond their control. The opinion of people who sit at home and present poorly spelled arguments that the American's should've offered him a coffee and a Barbara Walters interview so she can ask what they did wrong are not only ridiculous but ignorant. Celebrate all you want, don't hurt anyone who is innocent and don't bash muslims for the actions of an extremist and there is no problem.
He was the leader of Al-Qaeda which worked together with the Taliban government, it's not so hard to follow.Kortney said:
So what should they have done? Play defense and hope that Bin Laden was satisfied with killing 3,000 people? America should've said "Okay okay you got us, truce?' That would've ended well for them.Jonabob87 said:
Neither Stalin nor Mao killed US citizens in a direct terrorist attack. Nor did the US spend a better part of a decade hunting either one of these people. We celebrated when Hitler died, we celebrated on VJ day. We are going to celebrate today. Tomorrow we can all return to the realities of life but for the moment lets cut loose.ouch111 said:
[sarcasm]We didn't kill them. That's the difference.[/sarcasm]ouch111 said:
But the main reason is we never entered into any real conflict with either of them. Though I'm sure some of the worst of the commie-haters had a party.
Oh wow, he really was that unpopular towards the end. Well in the sort of Vengeance there should be a worldwide demand for the lynching of Bush I guess. I hate hearing of civilians dying in any sort of conflict, regardless of what side they're on, the soldiers have signed up for it and armed whereas the civilians are unprepared and unfortunate.ImmortalDrifter said:
It does feel wrong that we are celebrating a death of a person but then again it was also the death of someone that had attacked our nation without a care in the world about who died. There is a very large difference between targeting a military base and accidentally killing a few civilians that happened to be visiting family members or that lived nearby than an attack that blatantly was set for civilian life.
Sure you can crunch numbers all you want and sure you can say that America is horrible for celebrating someone's death but a large amount of people criticizing here aren't even American to begin with so it is easy to say you are better than people cheering in the streets. But it can also be said that if the same thing were to happen to your nation, would you be saying the same exact thing? Or would you apologize for your brash actions towards the person who killed your fellow countryman and offer him a reward?
Sure you can crunch numbers all you want and sure you can say that America is horrible for celebrating someone's death but a large amount of people criticizing here aren't even American to begin with so it is easy to say you are better than people cheering in the streets. But it can also be said that if the same thing were to happen to your nation, would you be saying the same exact thing? Or would you apologize for your brash actions towards the person who killed your fellow countryman and offer him a reward?
A lot of people were disgusted by the celebrations across the middle east on 9/11. I don't remember hearing any Islamic groups getting upset by those celebrations.
Also, quick heads up; Osama's followers are not like Mordor. When you kill the leader, they are not going to disapear, and the world is not going to go through an age of peace. The point is, Osama isn't the only guy who could lead those terrorists. There is going to be someone who rises up amongst them to avenge his death, and that could easily be a man who isn't half as smart as Bin Laden (yes, I'm saying Bin Laden was really smart), or more easily provoked, or foolish enough to resort to nuclear weapons. Making Bin Laden simply disapear from the face of the earth would have been way, way smarter.snagli said:
Jesus...Boris Goodenough said:
Afghanis dancing in the streets of Kabul after 9/11 were governed by the Taliban. The Taliban considered the USA and it's people to be enemies.Kortney said:
Therefore Afghanis celebrating 9/11 = people celebrating the deaths of enemies of their government.
Stop trying to pointlessly nitpick.
im australian and im happy this has happened, i cant imagine how it must feel for people directly affected by the killings or the muslims who hate him just as much for all the hate hes created.
This is a good day and people shouldnt be judging other people for celebrating.
This is a good day and people shouldnt be judging other people for celebrating.
How am I xenophobic exactly? Look at the definition of large words before you use them to try to sound like an intellectual.Jonabob87 said:Xenophobia FTW. I'm not an American, so I am not allowed to speak about this.ImmortalDrifter said:
I said that because you aren't American, therefore you have absolutely no right to convey the opinions of America.
Why would you punch someone out for celebrating the death of someone that given the chance would have annihilated you and your family? FIne you don't have to celebrate but don't stop people from celebrating.Denariax said: