Our children will n'er know the beginning, will not remember first and second generation videogames.

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[ddon]

i might worry if i get kids. but im not interested in a relationship now or anytime soon.

 

[smokeybearsb]

Which are, I believe 2 games. Well, one long-ass and fairly badly thought out (in my mere opinion, of course) series that outlived itself, and one game that I haven't really heard of.

Out of how many games?

It's like saying that all today's games are works of art because I liked Half Life series and, I don't know, Morrowind or something.

Most of the "awesome value" that people tend to see in older games is sadly nostalgia.

I've been trying to figure out what was so amazing about older games, and dammit you just spelled it out for me! W00t! I remember that I thought Mafia was like the greatest game ever and then I went to play it a couple months ago, and the graphics were a serious turn-off. I think the whole "I was a kid, the game was awesome then because I didn't know any better graphics" comes into play. Also, I think the whole getting REALLY amped for games was a childhood thing as well. I made a HUGE fuss about Halo 2 (which was when I was like 12 or something), I literally would watch the E3 demo like every other day. And then I got Halo 2 the day it came out, and it wasn't all that good. Bungie deviated from the demo, which was badass. Nowadays, I have like no hype for games.

Whew, OT: I'm going to go bat-shit crazy by the time I have kids, with modern society and all that. Granted, I'm going to have holographic videogames, I'm still going to live in an odd, immediate-gratification society, you were right OP. I really would not like that. I am kinda scared about how games by then will probably be mindless, as most cartoons to me are now. But perhaps that's just because I've matured from cartoons. Even though I still love ACME hour, Ed Edd and Eddy and to mention it, the Fairly Odd Parents was really good. At least it had some references in it that I know understand. It really had some great writers.

I know, right? The older episodes were funny and had a point (i.e. there was motivation for the character's actions). Then the guys who made it got it into their heads that "stupid = funny" when it doesn't, not necessarily. Characters acting normal with the exception of one blatant fact to which almost all the characters are oblivious (the episode in which Spongebob and Patrick steal a balloon, a silly act by itself, on National Free Balloon Day) is funny; characters amplifying their most obvious personal qualities to the point that it becomes ridiculous, annoying, repetitive, and downright stupid, along with a healthy dose of unfunny and psychologically damaging cartoon violence (What the hell is this?!) [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcSrcbyPuU0] makes me want to throw up, it's not even funny (pun).

Everything you said there was correct,modern cartoons now seem to be mindless. And ughhh *shudder* I just watched the video. It made my stomach turn.

 

[letsnoobtehpwns]

Here's a solution to your (and all) problem(s), don't have any children. If no one has any more children, then the human race will die off and their will no longer be any conflict.

 

[smokeybearsb]

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To use your TV analogy, I don't see Bugs Bunny as all that different from Spongebob. Comic antics. It's a different generation, same content.

Bugs Bunny had to use wit, though wit that is aimed at a young audience, to outsmart a man who was hunting him. He had to display a charisma and charm that directed his attacker at Daffy Duck instead of himself. He had to perpetually reinvent himself to keep himself out of Elmer Fudds hands. He did all of this while maintaining a coy and everpresent zen. Spongebob Squarepants pisses his brown shorts and runs around smacking things and crying. Bugs Bunny used comically oversized objects to annihilate his foes, or atleast apprehend or dissuay them.

I am insulted that there is a single person who cannot see the difference between Bugs Bunny and Spongebob Squarepants.

Fred Flinstone and George Jetson dealt with common dilemmas handed to them by their clearly adult lives at work and at home, but found solutions that fit the betterment of their familys. All while doing so in a way that subtly taught children their principles of family character and yet keeping them entertained. Spongebob Squarepants simply entertains children.

You are personally insulted that I can compare on a large-scale? Intense.

If you want to get into semantics, we can also say that they are different because one is a rabbit and the other is a sponge and one takes place in a forest and the other takes place underwater. At their core, they are the same however. You're got an anthropomorphic animal engaged in a situation which they resolve through the use of classic prop antics towards their antagonist. Whether Bugs Bunny tricks Daffy Duck into blowing his beak backwards with a shotgun or Spongebob nets Squidward with a sampling gun, the goal is the amusement of small children with antics.

I am indeed personally insulted, and I yet still disagree. Bugs bunny tricks daffy duck into blowing his beak backwards for a REASON, the reason mind you is usually to escape danger. This entertained children AND delivered them a coefficiently proper and challenging scenario involving well thought out euphemisms and direct parallels to problem solving. Spongebob Squarepants beats on Squidward to Squidwards comic annoyance, this entertains children and nothing else. The substance is behind the motivation of the characters.

Mjolnir07 is right other guy. There are noticeable differences. I really want to tell you the differences and how Bugs Bunny is better than (at least new?) Spongebob, but then I would just be repeating what he said.

 

[Dr Pussymagnet]

I hope that my kid will get into gaming, and when he does I want the first game he plays to be Skullmonkeys.

 

[iblis666]

For a time I was concerned that my children, of which I am not too many steps behind beginning to have, will not know a world before the instant gratification of mass media and the world wide web. My worry extended to how the world as we know it now will shape them if they weren't around to know it before became what it is today- a giant net of free exchange between information and what I like to call Spongebob Squarepantsosity- or mindless, unreasonably unfounded primal-ly unrefined garbage intended to stroke no sense of morality or pressure a higher class of response from its audience than fart humor and bald tragedy.

Anyway, then it occurred to me that I could give a fuck less about that, what about when they first awaken to the world of videogames no shorter advanced than holographic? To me it seems that in much the same way that at one point in time, atleast a decade and a half ago, videogames had a greater depth in them because there was less focus on visual presentation than on making a well thought out story entertaining to interact with as in that same era were dying the final notions of when children's television programs always had a clear protagonist with a definitive moral dilemma which in the end taught a life lesson. I speak of course about Batman.

Thoughts? Our children born after the NES, even the Nintendo 64 and I might even go so far as to the say the Dreamcast and Sony Playstation 1, do you fear for their sense of value and integrity? I know I do.

simple show them pong and then slowly work your way through the greats as they age it will be kinda like a compressed game history lesson but fun by the time they reach school lvl they should have played all the good games up till your present and if your into it you could do the same with anime

 

[UsefulPlayer 1]

I used to, but now I don't care cause if they EVER say Zelda sucks, there getting a boot up their ass. XD

EDIT: Hmm maybe I should of used a better example, because chances are Zelda will be around FOREVER

AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER...

We can only pray my friend!
may it be with us forever!

Amen.

I want to teach my fucking grand kids the art of pressure sensitive pads.

 

[jamesworkshop]

I don't see an issue how many kids that saw UP this year even know the films used to be complelty silent or love scifi but have never seen or heard of Metropolis

 

[Deleric]

I will finally be able to sit on the couch, slap my leg and say:

"Why you kids with your Guitar Hero 14's and your Xbox 5040's. Back in my day, we actually had to use our hands to play video games!"

 

[howard_hughes]

This is all part of growing old though, as generations are created and replaced their perception of the world is shaped by those who came before. However, they don't have the joys of witnessing those events for themselves. Does anyone here remember a life before the automobile, the airplane, walking on the moon? maybe, but the youth live with these histories as facts and get along fine. In time gaming will just be another thing taken for granted like the Magna Carta, Nationalism, or medicine.

 

[Coldsnap]

I don't see the big deal if I had kids and they were unfamiliar with the games that were among the first I knew as a child. Most of the games that stick in my memory aren't because they were particularly good, especially compared to current games, but the experience of something new; really all aspects of games have improved over time.

Also something being old doesn't inherently make it good, nor something being new doesn't make it inherently bad.

 

[SplattererRoss]

I don't know about games gaining graphics and losing story recently. I remember 007 goldeneye had the bare minimum of story and assumed you already had seen the movie, however, 007 From Russia with love told much more of the story (I use FRwL because the Quantum of Solace game didn't go completely along the movies storyline). Also, with titles like Mass Effect, Fallout 3, and even recent Call of Duty games, there is a lot of story. I know CoD hasn't been around forever, but the story has become more in-depth.

How could one say that the original CoD had a more in depth story than CoD 4, which told a back story for a character and had an intense ending? Or CoD WaW which had your squad leader dying, and other squad members dying throughout the story, and even when the game is in the final stretch?

All in all, when viewing video games, I see an increase in graphics, but not necessarily a decrease in story. Sometimes there is even an increase in the story and in-depth gaming, especially with games that earlier had little to no story.

 

[SplattererRoss]

Also something being old doesn't inherently make it good, nor something being new doesn't make it inherently bad.

Well said. Very well said.

 

[Insanum]

Tip: Introduce your child to the SNES FIRST. Then move up in age from there.

Win?

 

[Ajaysallthat]

I used to, but now I don't care cause if they EVER say Zelda sucks, there getting a boot up their ass. XD

EDIT: Hmm maybe I should of used a better example, because chances are Zelda will be around FOREVER

AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER...

We can only pray my friend!
may it be with us forever!

Amen.

I want to talk to teach my fucking grand kids the art of pressure sensitive pads.

And the proper use of a boomerang

 

[SnowCold]

Err... no, I think I am the right age to be a child of some o the older memebers here, and I know everything needed to know about thoose gens. they might less appricate it, but as long as the sonic VS mario war will continue in our hearts, itwill never die out!

 

[Ajaysallthat]

The question was do you think your children will be shaped by an incapacity to remember a time before the technology that will be available to them when they are raised. It wasn't a statement of "L0l a11 g4m3z b4 1994 r00l and 4ll after suX." Troll.

wow you take offense easily. My recollection of an thread from days of yore was meant as an example that not only will the younger generations not remember technology before their time, they will not be interested in the roots of the gaming experience.

I'm really perplexed how you considered my participation in the topic to be trolling. Although wording it the way you did, how the hell is someone supposed to remember something when they were born after it happened?

now if you will excuse me, I have a busy day ahead of me. I must send a letter to the territory of California via pony express, listen to an elvis album on 8-track, and prepare a piping hot beverage in my Mr. Coffee.

and slide down your brontosaurus when the large prehistoric bird tells you work is out
YABBA DABBA DOO!

 

[resultsmayvary]

People today buy trash games by the million if they're marketed correctly. Unless people stop funding these companies that make the garbage, your kids are guaranteed to be a product of it.