Our generation's racism

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I think future generations will see this generation's gay jokes the same way we see minstrel shows of the past.

For sexuality in general, gay or straight, this generation will seem incredibly prudish.

Also, future generations will wonder why the heck this generation let religion play such a huge part in global politics and laws. I'm not saying religion will be gone, but there will certainly be more atheists and agnostics, and the separation of church and state will be much stronger than it is today.
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
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Ugh, hating religions is vulgar.

I can understand the intellectual distaste for organised religion, it is reasonable. But hating a person for what they believe is simply boorish.
Islam is an organized religion. What do you think people think of when someone says Islam? Pop tarts?
Let me elucidate (I like using that word).

I'm fine with people being against organised religions in general. That's understandable to me.

I have a problem with someone hating faith, beliefs, or specific religions.
 

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Liquidacid23 said:
meh with the way people now use the word 'racism" in a few more generations it will be completely meaningless... the second you say you don't like anything younger people start screaming racism... it's like they stop teaching the definition of "race" in in biology class

I had someone call me a "racist" the other day because I said I didn't like fat people :(
There's a pretty significant fat acceptance movement and some members are actually trying to equate the "oppression of larger peoples" with what happened to African Americans in the past.

I'm pretty sure that fat people weren't enslaved. Not to mention everything else which has happened to, well, all non-white ethnicities.
 

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StBishop said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
StBishop said:
Ugh, hating religions is vulgar.

I can understand the intellectual distaste for organised religion, it is reasonable. But hating a person for what they believe is simply boorish.
Islam is an organized religion. What do you think people think of when someone says Islam? Pop tarts?
Let me elucidate (I like using that word).

I'm fine with people being against organised religions in general. That's understandable to me.

I have a problem with someone hating faith, beliefs, or specific religions.
How does that make sense, I'd say generalizing is the bad thing.
For example: I'm fine with kopimi, an orgranized religion, but I'm not fine with the Swedish Church, because they trick people into joining and making it a hassle to leave.
 

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My friend told me that when his sister told their nan and granddad she went to a gay bar, their granddad said, "You can't trust the sods; turn your back for five minutes...". Although apparently, he has two gay friends. Sounds similar to the racists' excuse of, "I'm not racist! I have black friends!"

Trans people are still a minority that aren?t talked about as much as minorities like homosexuals and black people, so when it blows up, they?ll probably be quite a bout of transphobia before it settles down again and they?re more accepted. Maybe, like how it's now acceptable for women to wear men's clothes like trousers, men will be able to walk out in public confidently wearing stockings and dresses without backlash. Then science and technology will improve to the point that trans people can fully switch to their preferred sex and become more integrated into society. At least, that?s the dream (the acceptance part, not the transphobia part).

There?ll probably be more violent anti-theism, as more and more people I know are becoming Atheists and rejecting outdated Theism.

Technophobia, when technology becomes more and more developed and we get machines doing shit for us (just like the films! :D). Then they?ll rise up and kill us. Goddamn metallos!

Then, I dunno, we?ll discover actual alien life or whatever, and some of them might invade or just emigrate to Earth, becoming ?the new immigrants?, giving birth to alienophobia or whatever.

Discrimination will always exist in society, in whatever form towards whatever group of people (still, most likely minorities), because, as I?ve aforementioned, fear of the unknown/alien/foreign/differnet/incomprehensible is practically embedded into our human nature.
 

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Mayhaps said:
StBishop said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
StBishop said:
Ugh, hating religions is vulgar.

I can understand the intellectual distaste for organised religion, it is reasonable. But hating a person for what they believe is simply boorish.
Islam is an organized religion. What do you think people think of when someone says Islam? Pop tarts?
Let me elucidate (I like using that word).

I'm fine with people being against organised religions in general. That's understandable to me.

I have a problem with someone hating faith, beliefs, or specific religions.
How does that make sense, I'd say generalizing is the bad thing.
For example: I'm fine with kopimi, an orgranized religion, but I'm not fine with the Swedish Church, because they trick people into joining and making it a hassle to leave.
Yeah, there's a large number of people who have a problem with organised religion in general in the way that they don't appreciate tithing (collection plates) and I can imagine that to an outsider, my church service would appear a little creepy (people all talking in unison, praising someone who's not physically there).

What I dislike is that people who hold no animosity toward the Catholic Church or the Greek Orthodox Church turn and say that the Mormons of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is evil or whatever negative adjective they choose to use.

Relish in Chaos said:
[...] minorities like homosexuals and blacks, [...]
Did you just say "blacks"? Really? Not "black people" or something slightly less inflammatory? On a thread discussing being racist?

Ok then. Maybe that's my hang up.

Then, I dunno, we?ll discover actual alien life or whatever, and some of them might invade or just emigrate to Earth, becoming ?the new immigrants?, giving birth to alienophobia or whatever.

Discrimination will always exist in society, in whatever form towards whatever group of people (still, most likely minorities), because, as I?ve aforementioned, fear of the unknown/alien/foreign/differnet/incomprehensible is practically embedded into our human nature.
I want Alien prejudice to be called Exophobia.

Matthew94 said:
StBishop said:
Let me elucidate (I like using that word).

I'm fine with people being against organised religions in general. That's understandable to me.

I have a problem with someone hating faith, beliefs, or specific religions.
Why? That doesn't make sense to me.

Why would it be wrong for someone to hate a violent religion that says you should die if you try to leave and not dislike one that is non-violent? Not using any specifics btw.
Ok that's a fair point. I suppose it just shows there's an exception to every rule.
 

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StBishop said:
Relish in Chaos said:
[...] minorities like homosexuals and blacks, [...]
Did you just say "blacks"? Really? Not "black people" or something slightly less inflammatory? On a thread discussing being racist?
Oh shit, sorry, I forgot. "Black people", I mean. Ironically, I'm black myself.

But would any of you have been offended if I said "whites"?
 

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Relish in Chaos said:
StBishop said:
Relish in Chaos said:
[...] minorities like homosexuals and blacks, [...]
Did you just say "blacks"? Really? Not "black people" or something slightly less inflammatory? On a thread discussing being racist?
Oh shit, sorry, I forgot. "Black people", I mean. Ironically, I'm black myself.

But would any of you have been offended if I said "whites"?
Ignoring the fact that "whites" wasn't ever a derogatory term. Yeah.
Not offended, just shocked that you'd use an out dated term.

EDIT: I realise that I'm overly touchy about racism, I grew up in the country and people there were not only much, much more racist than city folk, but they genuinely believed that there was no such thing as racism any more.
 

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Kahunaburger said:
Our generation still manages to be regular racist and regular sexist.
Agreed, my desi friends are very prejudice to one another and they are divided between those that are Muslim and those that are Hindu.
 

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Stilt said:
StBishop said:
Ugh, hating religions is vulgar.

I can understand the intellectual distaste for organised religion, it is reasonable. But hating a person for what they believe is simply boorish.
Is it wrong for gay people to hate christians?
Yes.
It's not wrong for them to hate someone who hates them, but that's not true of all Christians.

See we're getting back to prejudice again.
 

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StBishop said:
Relish in Chaos said:
StBishop said:
Relish in Chaos said:
[...] minorities like homosexuals and blacks, [...]
Did you just say "blacks"? Really? Not "black people" or something slightly less inflammatory? On a thread discussing being racist?
Oh shit, sorry, I forgot. "Black people", I mean. Ironically, I'm black myself.

But would any of you have been offended if I said "whites"?
Ignoring the fact that "whites" wasn't ever a derogatory term. Yeah.
Not offended, just shocked that you'd use an out dated term.

EDIT: I realise that I'm overly touchy about racism, I grew up in the country and people there were not only much, much more racist than city folk, but they genuinely believed that there was no such thing as racism any more.
Right, fair enough. It was honestly a slip-up on my part.
 

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Stilt said:
StBishop said:
Relish in Chaos said:
StBishop said:
Relish in Chaos said:
[...] minorities like homosexuals and blacks, [...]
Did you just say "blacks"? Really? Not "black people" or something slightly less inflammatory? On a thread discussing being racist?
Oh shit, sorry, I forgot. "Black people", I mean. Ironically, I'm black myself.

But would any of you have been offended if I said "whites"?
Ignoring the fact that "whites" wasn't ever a derogatory term. Yeah.
Not offended, just shocked that you'd use an out dated term.

EDIT: I realise that I'm overly touchy about racism, I grew up in the country and people there were not only much, much more racist than city folk, but they genuinely believed that there was no such thing as racism any more.
The thing about racism is that it's secondary to classism. If you're rich, it dont matter if you're black gay and islamic, America will bow to you. If you're a good ol' flag wavin' red blooded White American that hates niggers and spics and chinks, workin a blue collar job for peanuts, well then america shits on you anyway. Just not as much as blacks, mexicans, and asians working those same jobs

EDIT: How is "Blacks" racist? I could understand if someone said "Typical blacks" or something along those lines, but to my knowledge that isnt the case.
Well, firstly, the Escapist forums aren't a solely American community.

I suppose what you're trying to say is that Classism is the problem our generation need to work on?

I think that's a fair call, I know I've made assumptions about people based on their socio-economic back ground (not only favourable of rich and negative of poor people, I've made positive and negative assumptions about people who're rich and poor).

On the edit; I dunno what it's like where you're from but if someone says "blacks" to me they mean "niggers/coons/racial epithet". Where I'm from I've never heard it said in anything but a negative tone with negative connotations and intent.
I've never encountered a person who said "blacks" and only meant "people who're black".