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Mordorkin

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Geo Da Sponge said:
I agree with you on every point you have made thus far so rather than reiterating your points, I am just going to post my support.

Also, I am surprised by the number of people that didn't get the comic, though I suppose that for people who aren't familiar with some of the current gender issues in our geek culture the joke wouldn't be so clear.
 

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Scrumpmonkey said:
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I am beginning to suspect this entire comic may be fiction.
Wow, brilliant work there Sherlock. :p

Basically, the comic is making a point about male geeks who respond to females at Cons, particularly attractive ones that defy the usually "geek" stereotype, with unwarranted hostility.

The point they're making is this: How would you feel if you liked something stereotypically girly like My Little Pony and everyone harassed you or thought you were an attention whore because of it? That's how girls often feel when they show up at cons, despite being genuinely interested in nerdy stuff.

Yeah, the comic's drenched in sarcasm and satire, so it's a bit hard to understand.
This isn't helped by the fact that there is a majority male component to the 'Brony' community. There is also the fact that they are actively looking to welcome more female fans to make the community look a little more well adjusted and so don't function like a 'typical' convention crowd.

I'm not saying the point isn't valid or even cleverly made but it would have worked better with a gaming convention setup rather than a pony one. It just seems a little... off in its current form.

There is also the fact that any male 'Brony' who was sexually 'harassed' by three women dressed as part of the mane six probably wouldn't mind. Like at all.
I agree with this. It took me a long while to actually get the point of the comic because the point was completely deflected by the fandom involved. After I did get it there was a very long "ohhhh, I get it" moment, but that was followed by a "that...didnt really work" moment too.
 

lord.jeff

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I'm sorry but you're wrong, wait I'm not sorry because are just that wrong to the point of it being insulting even, I couldn't possibly disagree with your statement any more then I am, nothing is better then Sexy Mudcrab.
 

hentropy

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Carter, I think you should be much LESS subtle. There is a sweet spot to this kind of comedy, making the satire TOO deep not only confuses people and makes them misunderstand, but also detracts from the comic impact as people spend too much time trying to figure out what you're really trying to say.

And being someone who just got back from Otakon, I have to say that between MLP, Adventure Time, and Homestuck, it's hard to tell it's an anime convention anymore. And there was a pretty incredible amount of female MLP cosplayers. I've never seen that much of a problem with sexism and such. But it is occasionally grating for professional models who admittedly know little about the material cosplaying. But it is a pretty tiny issue that isn't worth writing Internet articles about (then again there doesn't seem to be an issue small enough to get mad about).
 

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Scrumpmonkey said:
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Scrumpmonkey said:
Ohlookit said:
What are you guys smoking? I really hope that this sort of thing doesn't go on at pony cons

-M
What are you talking about? MLP conventions are basically one big pit of horny, available females. Why do you think MLP is so popular? The show? Pfffttt.

I have the sneaking suspicion that many convention places are being rapidly booked due to misconceptions about forceful MLP themed foursomes.
this guy is wrong on so many levels...
Wrong as in factually incorrect, or wrong as in sick in the head? Because i can plead guilty to both.

On a side note other places to meet attractive, single and and downright assertive women include; Star-trek conventions, LAN parties, Games Workshop and Pokemon TGC competitions. If you can't get laid at an Pokemon Card Game Regional then there is no hope for you. Its like an orgy on steroids. They just won't take no for an answer.

Im not joking. Really I'm not. Look how little i've been joking this whole time. -_-
Really?! This is an out rage! My poor fellow bonies been treated like little more than meat // Something must be done at once to stop all those horny, available females!

On an unrelated note, does anyone know when the next MLP Con is? I'm asking for a . . . friend

-M
 

Impluse_101

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People like what People like.
But Harrasment is something I will not take happening to me or any other victim.
 

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Torrasque said:
In fact, where can I find attractive girls cosplaying well? I'd pay to see that.



Could post more, but of the ones I've seen these two are the best (in my humble opinion, that is.)
 

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Whoa... the more I read into all the related articles around and all the forums comments, the less I understand about the problem displayed. (brain melt) "Hur Dur.."

Edit : Oh! Now I get it. Gee, I'm slow...
 

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Revolutionaryloser said:
I mean, if you're a woman and you don't even know what Rainbow-Dash's eye colour is, you have no business attending cons.
... or animating DJ ponies. Sibsy, I'm looking at you, damn it.
Personal preference be damned, they are RED!
 

Immsys

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The third panel, that girl with the purple hair. I feel violated by that smile, I may need counseling.

Great comic, although I find my faith in humanity dips every time I hear about people acting like idiots.
 

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Immsys said:
The third panel, that girl with the purple hair. I feel violated by that smile, I may need counseling.

Great comic, although I find my faith in humanity dips every time I hear about people acting like idiots.
I'm quite surprised you have any faith left after... well, any given day. Does it replenish with sleep?
 

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oh god, it starts all over again....

I see what the point the original article tried to get, in spite of the flailing failure of his wording. He is upset that when he goes to a con or gathering, he expects to find people gathered because they share interests and help promote and enjoy the geek culture. Instead he often gets pretty faces in sexy outfits that know nothing of the culture, the interests and who's sole purpose is to stand there and look pretty. He sees that them as showing a low self esteem approaching people who would give them attention, the geeks. They are a group that is often seen as hard up for attention and give it easily over a pretty face and sexy body. The implications from this are insulting, as it pretty much makes a case that these women who do this do so because they are playing the stereotype of the geek for their own esteem. I can understand why he'd be pissed and a little frustrated when in a place where he seeks to hang out with people of his own cloth, he instead finds them being taken advantage of in a fashion.

I've heard a lot of complaint about this, and I have heard a lot of people misunderstanding his points. From what he describes, he is not expressly talking about hired booth babes or models. He is not talking about fans or people who enjoy the material. He is solely talking about those that dress up, go to the con and thrive off the attention.

The main problem is actual women like that are pretty rare overall, so his complaint either seems a pet peeve at best, or open to inflation to include more people or sorts. And the complaint misses any hint of cause or propagation and instead centers on the facet of annoyance he can actually grasp.

Now, I find there is a small nugget of worthy discussion in all of this. The cons and like are marketed heavily, and sexual marketing rampant. Booth babes, art, costumes and the like all push this idea, play towards the sexy and pander to the stereotype of the awkward male geek unable to get affection elsewhere. I personally think this in turn funnels back into the community and breeds the asshole class that the "pony" comic was satirizing. Worry about the few attention hungry women out there seems pointless, missing the real reason or issue for something that is obvious.

I don't see the original article's writer as trying to say women need to prove themselves. He doesn't propose any test or say women can't join until they answered 50 questions. I don't see him as misogynist, trying to create a secondary class or treat women differently. All I see is a guy frustrated by why he sees and feeling like there is a hand hovering over his culture, swooping down and abusing it for personal gain. In his eyes it is these women who do it for the attention. Myself, I think it is more the marketing agencies and mass consumerism aspects that are so bold because of the culture, and which in turn influence the culture. Presenting women as a piece of meat will have some assholes treat them as such. Presenting them as representations of icons of the culture (say, dressing up in a cosplay of a character), will have some people assume they are at least familiar with it, and treat them as such. Finding out they just wanted an excuse to have people stare at them and pay them compliments though would likely piss people off.
 

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Loop Stricken said:
I'm quite surprised you have any faith left after... well, any given day. Does it replenish with sleep?
I wish. To be honest, I started with a lot. Don't worry I'm just as cynical as everyone else now though, damn you interwebz.
 

runic knight

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Smilomaniac said:
I like what this man said. Stop treating one side different then the other for the gender difference. Don't go out of your way to welcome them because the difference, don't alienate them because of the difference. Don't make a deal about gender one way or another.


I wonder how, if presented gender neutral, the original article would have been received. If his complaints were not about 6 of 9's but merely about not-fans taking advantage of fan's interest for personal gain, whatever that would be....
 

Deadyawn

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Heh, it's funny because practically no one gets it. You've got to remember Grey, SARCASM DOESN'T WORK OVER THE INTERNET. Stop trying, you're just confusing them.

No offense though. I still thought it was pretty funny myself.
 

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RedEyesBlackGamer said:
"You are 6s trying to be 9s" is just a really horrible thing to say. 'I'm going to insult your appearance then I'm going to call you out for being attention seekers who are trying to feel prettier than you actually are.' I would not associate with someone who had that kind of attitude.
This, a thousand times this. The attitude that guy displays reeks of projection, and it's sadly something I see way too often.

I can understand why some people would have this mindset. Growing up as a nerd is tough, at best you're just socially alienated and at worst your bullied. That's something that often defines nerd culture, that sense of being an outcast, and finding comfort in comics and games. Resentment towards the "cool kids" is something that should go away as you mature and find your place in the world, but for some that doesn't really seem to happen. When these individuals see what they consider "normal" or "cool" people taking part in their culture they feel threatened.

Part of me can sympathize with that because I too was one of those geeks that spent more time playing Pokemon and Magic the Gathering than Basketball while growing up, and I was often picked on because I was shy and quiet. The thing is I know better than to take that out on others, and a lot better than to make a blatantly sexist rant and accuse people I don't even know of being shallow attention seekers. This guy doesn't deserve your anger so much as your pity.