Phasmal said:
Clearing the Eye said:
The comic is about a specific article someone wrote, flaming a group of people wearing proactive outfits and behaving in an overt, "look at me" way. They commented that they don't like "booth babes" showing up to conventions to stand around and get ogled. They weren't talking about average people at all.
The OP and their comic (like many here) missed the point and jumped right to assuming the article was referring to women, period. As such, I said it is dishonest to draw a comic with a very mundane man. For honesty, if the OP was genuinely trying to comment on the actual point of the article, the man would be wearing tight, revealing clothes and flexing. Their mistake or dishonesty has ended with many people here assuming the article was about women at conventions, period.
I know what the article is about, but you can't just say `We're talking about this group of people and it doesn't affect others` because it does.
There are way more women who go to cons because they have a real interest, but they all get tarred with the same brush.
Acceptance of women in geeky spaces is an issue and this kind of article only creates resentment by people who wrongly assume they can tell who is a `real geek` and who isn't.
If the general community didn't constantly stereotype me and others of my gender as only being there for attention, it wouldn't bother me. Because yes those people exist.
But really those people are doing less harm in my opinion than people going around and assuming that every female is there to get attention.
The point is, the OP was firing back at a specific article and they did so incorrectly.
Yes, some people get accused of being out for attention when they clearly aren't. However, this article isn't about that and the comic shouldn't have referred to it. Make the argument, fine. Good. Awesome. Don't misrepresent a genuine article as misogynistic and sexist.
The OP did what many people do nowadays: see criticism of people that happen to be women, ignore all the context and jump to claim sexism.
rhodo said:
I think claiming to "enjoy sexual harassment" means you don't know what sexual harassment is. Sadly, this is true for many males.
You can enjoy harassment. You can enjoy pain. You can enjoy suffering, sadness, torture and humiliation. You're either painfully stubborn or spectacularly uninformed. Just because something causes discomfort, doesn't mean you can't want it. I happen to rather enjoy masochistic women (I'm bi, but masochistic men doesn't do much for me, oddly). The women I am sexually attracted or involved with
want to be hurt to varying degrees and
want to be made to suffer. Just because they enjoy it, doesn't mean it's any less unpleasant or painful--and that's the entire point, they
want the bad things. Being cut, flogged or reduced to tears from pain doesn't mean it didn't suck. It just happened to suck in just the right way, lol.
Your refusal to accept or understand a mindset doesn't erase it. I won't go into detail (because who the fuck are you, lol) but I've enjoyed some terrible situations in the past, not the least of which included self-mutilation and intense pain.