Pachter: Battlefield 3 Won't Beat Call of Duty

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Delta 3 Actual

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While I do think that anyone looking at the numbers would think that CoD would out sell the new battlefield, I think it really takes someone with some real idea of what players look for in the video games they purchase. In the Call of Duty series, Activision has used Infinity Ward to innovate and change the modern FPS experience, then the following year releases a follow-up game developed by Treyarch which doesn't add innovations as much as it rides on the quality of Infinity Ward game that precedes it. Black Ops, the most recent Call of Duty, was a product of Treyarch's labor. Black Ops, in many critics eyes doesn't even live up to the brand name despite usage of the same innovations that MW2 brought. Since Activision has been fighting with IW, this year's Call of Duty (if one is to be released this year) will not be from the creative minds at IW or even from the desks of Treyarch (since they are working on 2012's CoD). It is then perceivable that the proposed Call of Duty of 2011 would not only under sell those developed by IW but also those developed by Treyarch.

Battlefield 3, unlike the first person shooters released by Electronic Arts, has been in the making for years, the first real documentation going back to 2008. The features in the documents (which did not exist in 2008) have slowly been integrated and tested in the form of the quickly produced shooter's by EA which have been released over the course of the last 3 to 4 years, starting with the development of destructible environments in Battlefield: Bad Company, and ending with the breathtaking graphics of EA's Medal Of Honor: Tier 1.

The short of it is, EA has been building the sequel to the well known Battlefield 2 for many years, testing out new concepts such as in match "squads", fully customizable avatars (in Battlefield Hero's and Battlefield Play4Free) and advanced rendering techniques. Activision has been simply relying on the success of one development studio to maintain an entire brand, the same development studio of which they removed Vince Zampella and Jason West, the brilliant minds of whom have made the franchise what it is today.

While all anyone can do is speculate as to what 2011 will hold, after doing significant research, it is hard to say that Battlefield 3 will not be able to compete with the lesser games of the Call of Duty brand, especially given the downward spiral of their development process that Activision has undoubtedly caused.
 

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That's like saying you bet Nintendo will release another Mario game; it's not some insane calculation no one guessed.
 

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John Funk said:
EA's third attempt will be DICE's Battlefield 3 - and DICE's Karl-Magnus Troedsson made it abundantly clear that the studio was setting its sights on its competition [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/108431-Battlefield-Dev-Thinks-Its-Competition-Is-Getting-Lazy].

"EA is trying to gain share incrementally, and I'm sure that if it is a great game, Battlefield 3 will sell 25 - 35% more copies than the last version. It would have to sell around 300% more than the last version to topple Call of Duty."
And that's the exact problem. I don't get what's so hard to understand about it. Rather than just focusing on making as stellar a game as possible, they have to try and set their sights based on their competitor's successes. It draws the parallels they don't need - especially being so far ahead of its release date - and it's going to set up expectations following the game's release that will dictate failure even if it sells successfully.
 

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I dunno but from what I've seen from the trailers I'm loving what Battlefield 3 can possibly do

Medal of Honor tried but only succeeded minimally, but yeah...

from the lighting to the awesome character animations (level design idk didn't see enough) and the approach to the game overall is more promising than a boom boom bam trailer. just sayin
 

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I don't mind if BF3 beats CoD in sales, all I'm gonna care about is whether I'm gonna enjoy BF3 more, and since BF1943, DICE has been winning that battle.
 

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AceAngel said:
Whoever wins, we lose.

We either get a COD game with Crysis like fidelity or a COD game set in a slightly advanced age of weaponry.

Both will play the same, both will feel the same, and both will be getting yearly releases for not reason, and then we'll miss the days Madden was 'recycled'.
Hmm, CoD 2013, the sequel to CoD 2012, followed by CoD 2014.
 

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Who cares? The idea of "dethroning: any top game in a genre is stupid. I own CoD games, Halo games, Gears of War games, Battlefield games, and many other shooters. I did not just buy one and only one. Many people dont. I also dont play just one. Will you outsell it? Maybe not, but can you sell less and still be fine? Definatly.
People comepet the wrong way in so many things.
 

MetallicaRulez0

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Thanks for the news flash, Tom Brokaw.

Ridiculously popular game to outsell relatively unpopular game? NO WAY!
 

MurderousToaster

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...and why is this man a respected analyst?

I just don't get it. Everything he says could easily be predicted by anyone with some statistics.
 

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AnythingOutstanding said:
I don't know...putting Battlefield 3 up against a franchise like Call of Duty is pretty DICEy...

OH! I did it again!


JK :p

anyway unless this come out on all consoles and the PC, yes it has no chance. crisis 2 won't do it either, the only thing that will topple COD is itself getting to repetitive and drowning customers in yearly copies.
 

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The same guy also said that the Wii would come last in the console wars. I don't trust him that much.
 

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Well just buy the name from Activision and you can beat their sales, 90% of their clientele really don't care what the game is like as long as it has the right name.
 

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Whether Battlefield sells more, or not, it is one step ahead of every single FPS game at the moment.
This stands for every Battlefield series release.

Do not forget that we are talking about massive warfare and not a hit and run one, like CoD.
Oh, with collapsible _buildings_ not just walls, like BC2.

To tell the truth, there hasn't been a single person whining about hitting infantry with anti-tank weapons back in BF2.
CoD gets out everyone abuses it's system and then "No AT on infantry" displays on every single server, on every single FPS game.
I would say CoD has done more bad than good.

Thumbs up for DICE and let Pachter or any Pachter believe what he wants.
 

Bobzer77

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So how much does Cpt.Obvious, oh sorry I mean Michael Pachter get paid for doing this stuff?
 

Shirokurou

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CoD has become like a fad in itself.
Many people don't really care anymore and the next CoD will definitely not interest me in any way (unless of course they surprise me).
Cause honestly, playing BlOps multiplayer after BFBC2 was a friggin' disappointment.

So Battlefield just focus on being a great game in your own right, screw trying to catch up to CoD's unexplained fanbase.
 

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As long as it plays like Ye Olde Schoole Battlfield Games, Battlefield 3 will have me playing for a good many years.

Unlike COD, where the best spots to exploit and shitty perk/weapon combo tactics make the game nigh on fucking unplayable.
 

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I have to say CoD and Battlefield series are two different style of game play, i.e. Close-Quarter Combat for CoD, and Team/strategic warfare for BF series, but I'm really hoping they can produce the same magic they had back in Battlefield 2, if not better.

I'd say PROVE THEM WRONG DICE!

I'm also in favor of B3 because I want to see something new, I support PC gaming too, and I kind of lost hope for Modern Warfare 3 after Infinity ward got disbanded...

But, again I say... PROVE ME WRONG! I still want to see how far can they go with it.