Pacific Rim and EVA

[Almack]

Okay so i saw pacific rim 10pm premiere and I personally loved every micro second of that movie cheering, laughing all of these things happening and often times at the same time but thats not what I want to talk about.

I want to talk about the constant comparisons between this movie and EVA i keep hearing and i wanted to make a few things clear. For starters mechs and kaiju are not exclusive to pacific rim or EVA or any other movie they are part of a genre and i understand that for many people eva was there first real experience with the mech and kaiju genre but it is not the be all end all, yes eva may be what mechs and kaiju are to you but they're not that to me, or other people on this forum, or even other people in the theater. And no im not saying that EVA is bad my any means i watched it thought it was okay up until that one masturbation scene but can we please stop calling pacific rim something it has 2 things in common with kaiju and mechs and well factually it really only has kaiju in common but thats knit picking

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Well the female Japanese character has a bob haircut with blue tips, that may very well be a subtle shout out to Rei Ayaname.

 

[Almack]

Well the female Japanese character has a bob haircut with blue tips, that may very well be a subtle shout out to Rei Ayaname.

i'll grant you that but the movie is full of little nods to various anime and monster movies one other example is charlie days characters talks about the kaiju having two brains which i immediately got was a godzilla reference

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Well the female Japanese character has a bob haircut with blue tips, that may very well be a subtle shout out to Rei Ayaname.

i'll grant you that but the movie is full of little nods to various anime and monster movies one other example is charlie days characters talks about the kaiju having two brains which i immediately got was a godzilla reference

Oh sure, I wasn't suggesting the movie didn't, just that there are very real references to EVA in there.

 

[Kolby Jack]

I'm pretty sure I'll enjoy this movie. I already know that I HATE Evangelion because it's written by a psychopath and it shows. OH MAN, does it show.

Honestly, people will draw comparisons from anything TO anything if it serves their purposes. Evangelion IS one of the most well known "giant robots vs monsters" shows out there aside from maybe Power Rangers, so naturally people will compare them. Just ignore them. Eva fans are weird.

 

[chozo_hybrid]

I saw barely anything related to EVA exclusively in the film (because EVA didn't invent the whole Giant Robots vs Monsters thing, nor the synchronizing with the mech/other pilots thing), it was a blast to watch and not up its own ass with all kinds of religious and moral subtext. Plus the ending made sense to everyone, you didn't need to study it like the last episodes of the anime.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

As long as Del Toro didn't get Anno to secretly write Pacific Rim, I think we're safe from the comatose masturbation and shoving hands through teenaged clone girl's breasts. Apparently that's what depression does to Anime directors.

 

[Lunar Templar]

Sorry, don't see it. sure, the Asian girl had blue highlights but she's not a raging ***** or uttering inept at social interaction. The robots are cooler in PR and most importantly, it doesn't waste my time with 'fake character depth' or exposition for shit that gets in the way of the robot punching the monster in the face.

 

[Seanfall]

I saw barely anything related to EVA exclusively in the film (because EVA didn't invent the whole Giant Robots vs Monsters thing, nor the synchronizing with the mech/other pilots thing), it was a blast to watch and not up its own ass with all kinds of religious and moral subtext. Plus the ending made sense to everyone, you didn't need to study it like the last episodes of the anime.

And the main male character isn't a fucked up little emo who masturbates on comatose girls.

 

[Nouw]

I think this film is going to have more in common with Gurren Lagann than Evangelion to be honest. The supposed similarities mean jack-all when one is made with a very different mindset to the other. In other words, I don't watch Evangelion for the action or for 'fun.'

 

[Johanthemonster666]

It's not suppose to be an adaptation, but pay homage and give little nods toward anime like Eva, movies like Godzilla, and sci-fi in general.

 

[JagermanXcell]

I think this film is going to have more in common with Gurren Lagann than Evangelion to be honest. The supposed similarities mean jack-all when one is made with a very different mindset to the other. In other words, I don't watch Evangelion for the action or for 'fun.'

Didn't Idris Elba's character even say "Who the hell do you think I am"?
Cause when he said that I immediately turned to my friend and we had that "OMG he said the Kamina thingy!" face.
It was probably just coincidence.
Then again... Gypsy Danger's visor looks awfully familiar... wait didn't the protagonist face a similar tragedy Simon faced?...

Oh boy, I love this movie more now.

 

[FPLOON]

I saw the 10pm premiere as well, and any sort of EVA references that this movie apparently had just seemed either coincidental or just in relevance to the whole genre of "giant robots vs monsters". My best friend was sometimes pointing out where these "references" were throughout the first minutes of the movie and every other "reference" we would point out to was mostly just in a "this reminds me of X" type of referencing (mostly in a joking matter) instead of the whole "this is totally referencing X" type of referencing...


The best one we came up with basically in-sync with one another was...

Spoiler

"The drift is strong with this one..."

or

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"May the drift be with you..."

and those references are nowhere near the "this is totally referencing X" type of referencing at all...


Besides, I liked how the movie was paying homage to the mech genre as well as the giant monster genre... add that with the movie being done by one of my favorite directors (that knows what he's doing, but I digress on that notion) and I already knew I was going to like this movie one way or another...

 

[Angie7F]

As the creator of Evangelion, Anno himself said (and I paraphrase) all anime and the likes are a homage to older versions of it.
Eva is an homage to Akira and stuff. So even if Pacific Rim is similar, it is OK.
You just have to take the idea, give a shout out, and make it better than the original or at least make the fans smirk at the shout out.

 

[evilneko]

The whole two pilots in sync thing, yeah, they did that in Evangelion too.

Just not in the same mecha.

Anyway, yeah, sure, there are some parallels and blatant shoutouts, but Pacific Rim is not exactly a deconstruction of anything. It plays the giant robot thing completely straight.

 

[vv85]

WALL-EE??

WALL-EE!!

.... WALL-EE?!


(Seriously, thats all your topic reminded me of)

 

[[Kira Must Die]]

I noticed a few similarities, like the helmets on some of the suits at first looked like they were filled with some sort of liquid that kinda resembled LCL, but maybe I was just seeing things or it could've been something else, and of course the blue streaks in Mako's hair made me think of Rei. Also, the ending scene reminded me of the ending scene in the first Rebuild movie, but I don't know if any of that was intentional or not (Probably not, as Del Toro admitted he has never seen EVA). Other than that it doesn't really have much in common with EVA outside of the giant robots fighting monsters thing. Tone-wise they are completely different.

 

[kpender]

Amazing film, will get it on BR

 

[PedroSteckecilo]

As long as Del Toro didn't get Anno to secretly write Pacific Rim, I think we're safe from the comatose masturbation and shoving hands through teenaged clone girl's breasts. Apparently that's what depression does to Anime directors.

Heh, you're clearly not familiar with the work of Yoshiyuki Tomino... his depression was all George R.R. Martiny instead of weird and pervy, EVERYONE DIES ALL THE TIME!

But yeah... Giant Robots fighting Giant Monsters from an Alternate Dimension? More than just Eva did that... that trope is pretty much as old as Giant Robot Anime...