Pacific Rim sucks.

[Thaluikhain]

I think it was supposed to be "so bad it's good". The first part of that is easy to achieve, not so much the latter part.

 

[Ogoid]

And why do people put Guillermo Del Toro on a fuckin pedestal again?

Probably has to do with El laberinto del fauno (Pan's Labyrinth), which, in fairness, was phenomenally good. But yeah, I suppose he hasn't really done anything that came even close since.

 

[Erttheking]

You think it sucked.

Ok.

I don't think it sucked. To each his own.

 

[Zhukov]

Eh, it was alright.

I liked the fights well enough. Everything that wasn't a giant robot fighting a giant monster was pretty unbearable though.

My biggest complaint was that they killed off the cool robots in one fight then focused on the boring robots.

Still a hundred times better than the DC movies.

 

[Erttheking]

Eh, it was alright.

I liked the fights well enough. Everything that wasn't a giant robot fighting a giant monster was pretty unbearable though.

My biggest complaint was that they killed off the cool robots in one fight then focused on the boring robots.

Still a hundred times better than the DC movies.

I really like the movie, but I will admit the lack of screen time for Cherno Alpha and Crimson Typhoon was downright criminal.

 

[Sniper Team 4]

My biggest complaint was that they killed off the cool robots in one fight then focused on the boring robots.

My biggest complaint isn't that they died, it's that they died like wimps. These are supposed to be the best pilots in the world--seeing as they're still alive--and yet both crews are taken down by pretty much the same monster. Okay, yeah, Cherno was suddenly tag teamed, but come on. And so much for having three pilots. That should have opened up a whole new realm of awesome, but no. All they do is bust out a spinning saw blade, and then get turned into scrap.

I knew that, in the end, it was only going to be Gipsy Danger that made it, but seeing the other ones go down that easily was the biggest letdown of the movie.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Eh, it was alright.

I liked the fights well enough. Everything that wasn't a giant robot fighting a giant monster was pretty unbearable though.

My biggest complaint was that they killed off the cool robots in one fight then focused on the boring robots.

Still a hundred times better than the DC movies.

The DC movies had better and memorable action scenes than Pacific Rim.

Heck even the Warcraft movie had better action scenes:

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

And why do people put Guillermo Del Toro on a fuckin pedestal again?

Probably has to do with El laberinto del fauno (Pan's Labyrinth), which, in fairness, was phenomenally good. But yeah, I suppose he hasn't really done anything that came even close since.

Call me when that movie is on Netflix because I need to see what all the hullobaloo is about that movie.

 

[Zhukov]

Eh, it was alright.

I liked the fights well enough. Everything that wasn't a giant robot fighting a giant monster was pretty unbearable though.

My biggest complaint was that they killed off the cool robots in one fight then focused on the boring robots.

Still a hundred times better than the DC movies.

The DC movies had better and memorable action scenes than Pacific Rim.

WAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHhahahahahahaaaaaa...

Whoo boy.

Yes, you're totally correct. I shall always remember that scene in Suicide Squad where... um... Will Smith shot a bunch of grey people? Also I think there was some fire?

Also that time where Murderman fought Superfrown. Truly a classic for the ages.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Yes, you're totally correct. I shall always remember that scene in Suicide Squad where... um... Will Smith shot a bunch of grey people? Also I think there was some fire?

Also that time where Murderman fought Superfrown. Truly a classic for the ages.

Eh, to be fair, I will always remember that bit in the 3rd Batman film where the police wear their nice uniforms and slowly walk in close formations towards the hordes of people with machine guns that are about to open fire and this is a good idea somehow, because...no.

 

[Zhukov]

Yes, you're totally correct. I shall always remember that scene in Suicide Squad where... um... Will Smith shot a bunch of grey people? Also I think there was some fire?

Also that time where Murderman fought Superfrown. Truly a classic for the ages.

Eh, to be fair, I will always remember that bit in the 3rd Batman film where the police wear their nice uniforms and slowly walk in close formations towards the hordes of people with machine guns that are about to open fire and this is a good idea somehow, because...no.

You mean Dark Knight Rises?

I seem to remember that it worked out for them. The bad dudes all somehow forgot to open fire until the police were within baton range and then they all had a big bloodless punch-up.

Clearly those cops knew something we didn't!

 

[Zhukov]

But fuck you the Superman vs Batman fight had its moments, and even than I found the Doomsday fight even better and the only dissipointment I got from it is that I wanted more.

The title fight was rubbish.

It depended entirely on Superman being an idiot. First he starts slapping around Batman who he intended to ask for help even though as far as he knew Batman couldn't hurt him. All he had to do was say, "Lex has kidnapped my mother, whose name is MARTHAAAAAA!" Instead he gets violent. Why, because Batman shot him with some guns that can't hurt him? Suck it up you grumpy blue bastard, you're immune and you're supposed to be a good guy.

Then he gets fooled by a bloody smoke grenade. Let me repeat that. Superman, who has X-ray vision, hearing so good that he can hear Lois scream from across the world (but not his beloved mother for some reason) and can move faster than the eye can see, gets fooled by a goddamn cloud of smoke.

Later on, after the first Kryptonite gas grenade wears off he proceeds to stand there and watch as Batman slowly loads and fires a second round. He could have torn Bruce out of that armour and disarmed him in half a second. But instead he eats a second gas grenade because apparently Snyderman is a moron.

As for the Doomsday fight... yeah, actually it a bunch cool moments. That shot where Wonderwoman leaps into the fray was pretty sweet. That "Oh, you!" expression she does whenever she takes a hit made me grin. There's a bit where Superman and Wonderwoman each get punched through debris and rubble which looked cool. Oh, and they made the golden lasso look cool.

On the other hand, Doomsday was a boring and ugly enemy. He looked like the Fellowship of the Ring cave troll and he had no role in the plot, he was just a monster that Lex pulls out of his arse at the end.

Oh, and Snyderman's death was dumb. Why not just throw the bloody spear? Or give it to Wonderwoman who isn't allergic to Krytonite and get her to do the stabbing. But instead Snyderman dies because, as we've discussed, Snyderman is an idiot.

 

[Casual Shinji]

The fight between Gypsy Danger and the Kaiju in the city was very good, but most of the other fights were pretty unmemorable. And the characters were bland at best and unbearable at worst.

Del Toro was a real knack for visuals, but everything else generally is very tepid, from his scripts to his characterisations to the way he directs his actors. He's similar to Zack Snyder in that regard; Best suited to being a director of photography.

Even Pan's Labyrinth wasn't that great. Which I'm sure me saying that will piss a lot of people off, but that movie just didn't work for me.

 

[Wintermute_v1legacy]

I saw it and I couldn't tell what was going on when they were fighting. Still, I think it was ok, worth watching once.

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

But fuck you the Superman vs Batman fight had its moments, and even than I found the Doomsday fight even better and the only dissipointment I got from it is that I wanted more.

The title fight was rubbish.

It depended entirely on Superman being an idiot. First he starts slapping around Batman who he intended to ask for help even though as far as he knew Batman couldn't hurt him. All he had to do was say, "Lex has kidnapped my mother, whose name is MARTHAAAAAA!" Instead he gets violent. Why, because Batman shot him with some guns that can't hurt him? Suck it up you grumpy blue bastard, you're immune and you're supposed to be a good guy.

Then he gets fooled by a bloody smoke grenade. Let me repeat that. Superman, who has X-ray vision, hearing so good that he can hear Lois scream from across the world (but not his beloved mother for some reason) and can move faster than the eye can see, gets fooled by a goddamn cloud of smoke.

Later on, after the first Kryptonite gas grenade wears off he proceeds to stand there and watch as Batman slowly loads and fires a second round. He could have torn Bruce out of that armour and disarmed him in half a second. But instead he eats a second gas grenade because apparently Snyderman is a moron.

As for the Doomsday fight... yeah, actually it a bunch cool moments. That shot where Wonderwoman leaps into the fray was pretty sweet. That "Oh, you!" expression she does whenever she takes a hit made me grin. There's a bit where Superman and Wonderwoman each get punched through debris and rubble which looked cool. Oh, and they made the golden lasso look cool.

On the other hand, Doomsday was a boring and ugly enemy. He looked like the Fellowship of the Ring cave troll and he had no role in the plot, he was just a monster that Lex pulls out of his arse at the end.

Oh, and Snyderman's death was dumb. Why not just throw the bloody spear? Or give it to Wonderwoman who isn't allergic to Krytonite and get her to do the stabbing. But instead Snyderman dies because, as we've discussed, Snyderman is an idiot.

Because the fuckin smoke was powderized kryptonite!!

That is why he could not see shit.

And if you could imagine Superman throwing the spear you could also imagine Doomsday easily dodging said spear.

But of course we are having this conversation because you had to mention DC movies.

 

[FalloutJack]

I'm sorry, but I can't hear you over its resounding success, so with all due respect, that's an unpopular opinion only.

 

[Breakdown]

I really enjoyed Pacific Rim, yeah the main character was pretty bland, but the film didn't rely on him much anyway. The other characters were likable enough, and the cinematography, sets and action were all great.

I just watched Crimson Peak though a few days ago though, and that was shit. And Charlie Hunnam was bad in that as well.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

I liked the music of all things.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

If you actually watched the giant robots fight giant monsters movie for the plot and the dialogue, then perhaps you're not ready for movies, especially not this one.

Besides which, all the characters were meant to be archetypes. Easily digestible characterchures of Anime and Western tropes so that we all know what they're about because we've seen them a hundred times before. We know all of them from the get-go because we were meant to. They're not supposed to be Shakespearean characters, alas and alack with angst and drama, they're condensed and concentrated heroes distilled from a thousand shows and stories from our childhood.



I mean for fucks sake, Mako is literally supposed to be Rey from Evangelion!

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and the Jaegars! Tatic Ronin is an Eva and Coyote Tango is a Mobil Suit!

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Not to mention the Kaiju! Seem familiar? King Kong. And a 3rd-tier fucking knife-headed Godzilla monsters!

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And that's the whole point! It doesn't stand on it own because its not supposed to. Its a love-letter to Kaiju and Mecha fans, and if you're not one of those, then yeah, this movie isn't for you. At all. In any way.